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daepp 11-09-2008 08:29 PM

Just a w.a.g. - ac vs. dc?

TerryH 11-09-2008 08:38 PM

hmm... did I read the pump pulls 8 amps and to use a 15 amp fuse?

Isn't the pump designed to run on 12v marine battery as a bilge pump?

aigel 11-09-2008 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daepp (Post 4293273)
Just a w.a.g. - ac vs. dc?

+1

The boat pump likely runs DC. The light transformer has no reason to be DC, unless I am missing something on outdoor lighting?

The low vibration you hear is likely 60 Hz. ;)

George

slodave 11-09-2008 09:04 PM

I'm with daepp (and aigel) as well. The pump requires 12V DC and the Malibu transformer puts out 12V AC.

dhoward 11-09-2008 09:18 PM

Man, those MIT guys...
:)
Why a timer? Use a float switch on the bilge pump.
Will you get enough head pressure with that pump?
edit: just read the specs. 4 feet of lift? Is that enough? Specs are always optomistic...

Oh and yeah, DC pump AC xformer...

porsche4life 11-09-2008 09:26 PM

Just go buy a 120v sump pump with a float switch. toss it down there and hook a garden hose up to it. Plug it in and forget about it. check occasionally for water in event of pump death.

dhoward 11-09-2008 09:28 PM

Best advice, right there. You'll get better lift and a purpose-built system.

Edit: Spec on the site is 4 feet of lift. That ain't much if your in the deep end of the pool.
A sump pump is probably less expensive too....It doesn't say 'marine' on it. :)

porsche4life 11-09-2008 09:40 PM

Lol. Just plug and play. At my grandmothers house there has to be a sump pump in the basement or the place floods quickly. I think they built her house in the water table no joke. We just put a pump in the sump hole hook it up to the adapter for pvc and then leave it and she checks it regularly and when the pump breaks she calls my dad and he goes and replaces it. She usually makes a pump last about 1.5yrs. but i doubt yours would run that long.

porsche4life 11-09-2008 09:57 PM

Hmm I'm not sure about that. Not a problem in our application. It should if it is sitting flat suck down to just almost dry. I wouldn't think that it would leave enough room for mosquitoes to breed

porsche4life 11-09-2008 10:01 PM

asketh and thou shall receive. Now you still will have to do the float switch thing but that will inherently leave some water, there is no way to make a float switch work and suck it plum dry.
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aigel 11-09-2008 10:39 PM

You can always chisel a shallow sump in the low spot that fits the sump pump. No question will the pool need a refresh anyway once you fill it with water in a few years ...

George

turbo6bar 11-10-2008 03:48 AM

The 4ft of lift refers to suction lift. If it could only pump against 4 ft of head, it'd be a pathetic pump with no flow.

The sump pump from Lowe's looks ideal. Not only does it have internal controls and use 120VAC, it probably will pass some solids. The Water Puppy pump is not designed for small debris.

Ned, NYNA11 11-10-2008 03:54 AM

Wayne,

I used whats called a condensate pump to get rid of the water from my dehumidifier in the basement. It consists of a small sump with a built in float valve.

Its about shoebox size, cost about $40.

304065 11-10-2008 04:08 AM

Wayne glad to hear you have RECTIFIED the problem. . . I'm here all week. . . :)

Porsche_monkey 11-10-2008 04:31 AM

Yes, the condensate pump should be ideal. They are used with the 'split' type A/C units. Should be what you want.

JeremyD 11-10-2008 05:07 AM

Do the sump - no need to reinvent the wheel. I'm pretty sure the one you are looking at will fit in the drain hole. If not there is one out there that will (I have an all black one that I use - it was pretty inexpensive.

dad911 11-10-2008 08:00 AM

Wayne, most pools are built with plugs at the bottom. My drains actually have a fitting at the bottom of the drain housing. You remove them so the pool won't float when emptied. Assuming you have have good drainage, opening the plugs should drain pool naturally.

dad911 11-10-2008 08:05 AM

Also, I would use a 110 pump without a float switch, and an electronic switch like this so you can pump to a lower level: http://www.plumbingsupply.com/sumpwatcher.html

sammyg2 11-10-2008 09:54 AM

Hopefully you didn't let the magic smoke out .......

vinny c 11-11-2008 11:12 AM

Put a check valve on the discharge side if the pump doesn't have one.

Vince


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