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t951 11-12-2008 09:43 AM

Vector returns (2000HP, 275+ MPH)
 
Crazy!
http://www.vectormotors.com/index.html

GG Allin 11-12-2008 09:52 AM

They've gone beyond supercar and built a "hypercar".

sketchers356 11-12-2008 09:56 AM

Amazing!

M.D. Holloway 11-12-2008 10:11 AM

Quote:

7.8 Liter Race Proven V8, made in the USA.

1250 hp (Supercharged) 0-60 mph in 2.7 seconds

750 hp (Normally Aspirated) 0-60 mph in 2.7 seconds

Quarter mile in 8.0 to10.0 seconds @ 150 to 170 mph

260-275 + mph top speed (Bonneville gearing)

Very very cool, but what type of tires will take that? ZZZ rated?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1226517052.jpg

onewhippedpuppy 11-12-2008 10:11 AM

The Bugatti Veyron sells (at a loss) for over $1M, tops out at 250-ish MPH with 1001 HP. VW poured hundreds of millions into the development. The amount of tech involved with that car, from the engine and suspension to the aero work, is staggering. Vector claims they're building a 2000 HP 275 MPH car on a poorly made website? I have to see it to believe it, I doubt they have the cash to develop such an animal.

M.D. Holloway 11-12-2008 10:13 AM

found it:

Quote:

Michelin XGT + radial 255‑45ZR18/315‑40ZR19. Certified by Michelin for 200 + MPH sustained operation.

onewhippedpuppy 11-12-2008 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LubeMaster77 (Post 4298677)
found it:

Probably the Veyron tire. Michelin developed a tire especially for Bugatti and it's ultra-high top speed.

legion 11-12-2008 10:18 AM

Will this company be the farce the original Vector was?

Didn't they build something like 8 cars over 15 years?

onewhippedpuppy 11-12-2008 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion (Post 4298693)
Will this company be the farce the original Vector was?

Didn't they build something like 8 cars over 15 years?

Judging by their website and lack of real content, I'm thinking yes.

Porsche-O-Phile 11-12-2008 10:22 AM

I'm calling B.S.

It's a pushrod V8 and they're saying they're going to get 2,000 hp out of it? Bull. If they do it'll go for about 100 miles (if that) before needing a rebuild.

This sounds like glorified "redneck engineering" to me, with a healthy dose of rice-boy styling.

legion 11-12-2008 10:38 AM

Here we go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_Motors

Quote:

In 1989, Wiegert's company, now known as the Vector Aeromotive Corporation, began production of the W8, an evolution of the W2. Financial backing came from public stock offerings and various lawsuits including suits against the Goodyear Tire Company (trademark infringement with the Vector brand of tires) and Vantage cigarettes.[3] Two W8 prototypes were made, of which only one ran.

One black W8 was sold to famous tennis player Andre Agassi. Since Vectors were hand built, each took some time to finish, but Agassi demanded that the company deliver his W8 as soon as possible.[5][4]

Vector delivered the car as promised. Company representatives told him that he could display it, but warned him not to drive it until the final work was completed. He ignored the warning, though, and drove it hard around his yard. As a result, the car's 600+ hp engine backfired, causing the destruction of the exhaust system and the rear interior.[5]

t951 11-12-2008 11:21 AM

I think it's a scam. He (Weigert) is clearly a sheister. He is fishing for funding to keep his lifestyle going.

In related news, Motor Meister will be building the engines.....

futuresoptions 11-12-2008 12:05 PM

Never liked the looks of the original vector, The new one resembles an 97 camaro too much in the front... 2000hp? isn't that above F1 & Nascar specs?

gtc 11-12-2008 12:11 PM

This is what the new KITT should have been, not some stupid mustang.

cgarr 11-12-2008 12:18 PM

Cant find the weight anywhere?

Pazuzu 11-12-2008 12:32 PM

Would you rather have a 1000HP rebodied Camaro, or a 1000HP/1000ft-lbs Caddie?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1226525491.jpg

asphaltgambler 11-13-2008 07:25 AM

I'm certain the engine is a big-block Chevy based. Their horsepower numbers are easily achieved with todays technology and gear. The N/A version is way detuned. If you think about it; most of todays hardware will make at or close to 2 HP per cubic inch on 93 octane.

SXSMAN 11-13-2008 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion (Post 4298693)
Will this company be the farce the original Vector was?

Didn't they build something like 8 cars over 15 years?

They made only 14 V-12's like the one behind Mr. Potato-head .

They made more W8 cars then any other .


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...FK911FRONT.jpg

Yeah , the guy is.... let's say.....rather different .

SxS

kach22i 11-13-2008 08:33 AM

I think you guys are being hard on the Vector.

Pictures:
http://www.vectormotors.com/development.html
http://www.vectormotors.com/graphics...0594-sm-sm.jpg

speeder 11-13-2008 08:53 AM

A car that absolutely nobody would want. Or maybe 3 people in the world. Think about it, why would you want a 2000hp, or even 1000hp ugly car? When a 480hp 997 turbo, even @ 3400 lbs. with every luxury accessory known to man, can do 0-60 in under 4 seconds and go 190+ mph? When it comes to HP, more isn't better past the amount that makes a vehicle perform well. Not in cars, not in MCs, not in F1 race cars, not in fighter jets, not in semi tractors, not in anything. It just makes them dangerous, unstable POSs.

Why not give it 4000 hp and make it go 400 mph? That would make it better, right?? What a POS.

onewhippedpuppy 11-13-2008 09:06 AM

No way some guys in a shed have the technical knowledge and resources to build a 275 MPH street car. Even a "mere" 200 MPH car has thousands of hours invested in CFD and wind tunnel work. You don't just shove a big motor in a car that looks sorta sleek and hope for the best.

Denis, its bragging rights for the ultra rich. Nothing more. Personally I'd rather have a car that makes my 40 MPH daily commute more exciting.

Racerbvd 11-13-2008 09:27 AM

I still have my Vector stock certificates from last time they were in business:p

Matt, you need an 83-84 VW GTI, those cars were a blast!!!!

onewhippedpuppy 11-13-2008 09:31 AM

Byron you know me and cars, I've looked for a 1st gen GTi several times. It's really hard to find a reasonably stock one that isn't rusted to hell or unreasonably priced. There was a really sweet one that sold for $4k in my area recently, it was owned by a VW fanatic and had some very tasteful mods. I would have liked that one.

legion 11-13-2008 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 4300646)
I think you guys are being hard on the Vector.

All I'm saying is, based on Wiegart's past track record, this incarnation of Vector will be all about hype and produce few, if any cars.

Is it possible that he will deliver what he claims? Yes.

Is it likely? Based on paster performance, no.

Racerbvd 11-13-2008 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 4300786)
Byron you know me and cars, I've looked for a 1st gen GTi several times. It's really hard to find a reasonably stock one that isn't rusted to hell or unreasonably priced. There was a really sweet one that sold for $4k in my area recently, it was owned by a VW fanatic and had some very tasteful mods. I would have liked that one.

Those were the most fun cars!!!!

Here are a few for sale.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=693617

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=682394

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=690041

Sarc 11-13-2008 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 4300737)
Personally I'd rather have a car that makes my 40 MPH daily commute more exciting.

Sounds like someone needs an E30.

Sarc 11-13-2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 4300646)
I think you guys are being hard on the Vector.

Rather not hard enough....that car always looked like an abortion from 'Demolition Man' to me. I mean, who wants to sit on a plynyl loveseat anyway.


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1082/...5dd2d5.jpg?v=0

charleskieffner 11-13-2008 12:37 PM

i see a new land speed record at bonneville on the horizon. IF IT DONT FLY AND KILL THEM!

we bought andre agazzi(whatever) old corvette. andre was a slob/took crap care of it/and as we found out put an incredibly hard 76k on that 88 vette that finally we threw in the towel and sold the PIG!


andre if yer out there................your a SLOB!

kach22i 11-13-2008 02:37 PM

Back in September 2007 I went to an Italian car show in Michigan with my brother and a Ferrari owning buddy. We were privileged to join a parade of supercars and escort a Vector back to the owners home.

The gentle smell yet searing fumes of racing gas from the Vector fill our lungs, and we were loving it. I felt a little nervous the whole time almost shaking, like I was getting up the nerve to ask a girl out back in High School or about to have sex for the first time.

The head engineer of Vector who now travels the globe servicing these aircraft spec-grade automobiles invited us into his home. We watched promotional videos and went though his scrap book re-living the stories and memories of the thing we now call "Vector".

When you get that close to understanding what went into building such a car, and marvel at the hurdles they leaped over, there is an awe to it. Unless you have been part of something like that, or at least shared a little time with someone who has, perhaps some respect or a nod should be shown.

I really don't see what qualifies the critics to speak out as they do, where is the supercar they helped build?

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...rge-Driver.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...eorge-Stop.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...rge-Street.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ound-Sq-Lk.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...eorge-Pose.jpg

EDIT: A couple of more pics
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ector-Lawn.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...tor-Road34.jpg

bell 11-13-2008 03:10 PM

i'll be right back.....i need to go find my members only jacket :D

speeder 11-14-2008 05:06 PM

That white thing is just an ass-licking ugly kit car. Christ, if I had a dog that looked like that, I'd shave its ass and teach it to walk backwards. The wheels look like they belong on an $8.00 PU truck full of lawn mowers.

Sorry, but there is money and then there is taste. Rich or poor, you can own a piece of automotive art. (911, early GTV, etc...). That thing could knock the buzzards off a shyt wagon.

onewhippedpuppy 11-14-2008 05:22 PM

I'll take the F40, thanks.:)

onewhippedpuppy 11-14-2008 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarc (Post 4301102)
Sounds like someone needs an E30.

It's harder to find a really nice E30 than you'd think.

serge944 11-14-2008 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarc (Post 4301102)
Sounds like someone needs an E30.

I6 E30s get pretty ****ty gas mileage when you really think about it. My e36 m3 got better mileage and it has 80 more hp and an additional 400 lbs. 40mpg? Maybe down a 50% grade. ;)

YTNUKLR 11-14-2008 06:16 PM

It's

Mk1 GTI...$5k for a nice one, or $1k for a crap one you need to work on for 2 years

Then, you say, if I am going to spend $5k on this old GTI, I might just save up another $5k and get an E30 M3...

then you think,

why don't I just get a 911SC?

serge944 11-14-2008 06:26 PM

http://www.geocities.com/napavalley/...vector-m12.jpg

When I was 12, I thought this was a pretty badass car. Not so much anymore.

dewolf 11-14-2008 10:05 PM

I think the Aussie version of the backyard supercar is better

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/4321/australias-joss-supercar-to-enter-production/

Porsche-O-Phile 11-14-2008 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 4304069)
I'll take the F40, thanks.:)

I like how you think. The F40 is one of the sexiest cars ever made, IMHO. Italian to the core - attention-getting and attractive without resorting to silliness.

kach22i 11-15-2008 08:09 AM

The Vector is a spaceship compared to anything else on the road, it makes a statement.

I like something with more curves and lighter myself, but have to respect the effort that went into making it.



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1226768912.jpg
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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1226768948.jpg

legion 11-15-2008 06:23 PM

George, I have no doubt the cars are fascinating (though ugly, IMO).

The "farce" I was speaking of is Wiegart's consistent mismanagement of the company.


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