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red-beard 11-17-2008 06:27 PM

How freak'n hard is it to find an M1A?!?
 
Jeez, every M1A I went to purchase, that was reasonably priced, was/is gone.

I guess, once I have a bit more cash, I'm going to have to pay a premium for one. I guess I'll buy some mags, just in case.

Oh, well, I guess a FAL is better than nothing...

JT

Racerbvd 11-17-2008 06:29 PM

All the local gun shops have lines, yep change is coming:rolleyes:

red-beard 11-17-2008 07:05 PM

Well, I've purchased 4 pre-ban M1A mags and 10 pre-ban FAL mags, along with the FAL. IF I find a reasonably priced M1A, I'll sell the FAL, probably for a profit...

Geez, now I need some ammo.

Evans, Marv 11-17-2008 07:25 PM

I'm thinking of one myself. That's what I carried in the Army, and really liked it. I was looking online & it looked like they were going in the $1,500 to $1,900 range. I wonder if the price will stay up if the frenzy relaxes later on.

futuresoptions 11-17-2008 09:42 PM

Hey Red Beard, Not to sound funny, but when I purchased mine approximately 2yrs ago, None of the local gun shops had them. I went to shotgun news and found whoever was advertising them in stock for the month and called and asked if they had what I was looking for. Once I found the place and the gun, I went to my local gun shop and had them call and order it for me. I had to pay 10% over the price of the gun for this service. Be advised my local gun shop orders their guns online from a big outfit, and the owner had tried unsucessfully for about two weeks to try and locate any for sale. I had to take matters into my own hands and found a distributor out of Dallas Texas. I believe they were are large pawn shop that caters to law enforcement, but I cannot remember their name. Maybe some Dallas boys can chime in... Hope this helps...

red-beard 11-18-2008 03:01 AM

I can't afford $1600-$2000 for the models that might actually be available. I found a couple of standard ones in the $1250-$1400 region and stretched to buy, since it is what I really want. But it's not happening. The FAL will be fine. I am buying some mags for the M1A, just in case...

azasadny 11-18-2008 03:05 AM

My local gun shop/ range is selling "black rifles" as fast as they get them. i bought my Colt Sporter II AR15 in the spring for $800, now there is a waiting list for 1. Ammo prices are crazy, so I'm reloading my own ammo and the powder, primer, cases and bullets are all in short supply, too!

red-beard 11-18-2008 03:07 AM

Ammo will be next week. http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/ is about 1 hour from here...

Joeaksa 11-18-2008 03:59 AM

Everyone around here is selling out of certain types of weapons that they feel Obama Hussain will try to ban with Peloisi's help. Cannot blame them... stock up while you can because if they have their way people owning semi-auto weapons will stop.

charleskieffner 11-18-2008 04:13 AM

redbeard............spend the bucks up front for a match or a superdupermatch w/mcmillian usmc stock and hart/kreiger stainless barrel.

either buy the fn...........or buy the m1a. my take is this. how many assault rifles can you carry?????

how many do ya wanna support???? mags special tools scopes scope mts blah blah.

and then if yer like me and everyjuan else here ya cant leave the damn thing alone w/out accessorizing the hell outta of it, you then spend even more bucks building an m1a into a supershooter.

buy a hathcock or a super duper match and shoot insane groups outta the box. then if yer uber anal(like me) ship it to arringtonaccuracy.com and get the uber uber uber snoooty shooting rifle. i shot 200rds outta my springfield superduper match(from springfields custom shop-over a year wait back then) and then handed to arrington. same with my m1a socom. 200rds and hand to phil to make it also into a super duper uber uber uber snooty group rifle. federal 168's til the day i die only.

ask me how i know! been der, done dat!

charleskieffner 11-18-2008 04:17 AM

socom doing bear watch !http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1227014252.jpg

futuresoptions 11-18-2008 04:23 AM

Hey man, google west texas armory, or try west texas armory.com. That guy specializes in m1a's and he usually has a few used ones on his site. you might want to email him or give him a call to see what he has availible. I have never dealt with him, but he has a nice site and seems to do good work...fwiw..

charleskieffner 11-18-2008 04:23 AM

anudda interesting point on .308s ask me how i know.

maint level of evil .308's. cleaning time down to firing pin:

hk-91: about 3 beers if ya are lazy.

m1a: about 6 beers if yer good

fn: about 4 beers once ya get rattail out and apart.

thats down to firing pin, breech spotless, barrel spotless, action spotless, scope lens cleaned, all screws tightened.

on hk and fn's take long wire brush(e&l mfg) chuck into cordless drill with a lil shooters choice, sweets 7.62, or hoppes # 9 and clean the snot outta breech til ya can see yerself. time: 2 gulps on yer beer. screw cleaning by hand unless out in da boonies and even then i wouldnt clean it unless i shot over a 1000 rds at bad guys!

futuresoptions 11-18-2008 04:27 AM

Hey Charles, how do you get the fiberglass shroud off the top of an M1A, may be called the hand guard....

futuresoptions 11-18-2008 04:28 AM

The part that it looks like you have your scope/light rail mounted to... I need to take mine off to paint it...

charleskieffner 11-18-2008 04:29 AM

note cleaning swabs on tail gate. was bored to tears while light rain was drizzling down. g/friend mom picking berries.......literally bushels of them, in mega bear land. bear poo everywhere, plants crushed track etc. this same spot year before had 2 cubs approach us on quad and then momma bear get pissed and rush us.

this is where i will drill a bear out of season legal if there ever was a spot on the planet outside alaska!

fuchers are everywhere here. northern part of gila wilderness new messiko.

futuresoptions 11-18-2008 04:34 AM

Seriously Red beard, if you go with the Fal now in truth, that thing will probably be banned before the m1a.. so I think you have time. I think that they had to ditch the flash suppresor and bayonet lug on the m1a during the last ban but I am not sure...

Thats a fine looking socom Charles... I hope to get one and put one of those Mcmillan folding stocks on it...someday anyway...

charleskieffner 11-18-2008 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by futuresoptions (Post 4310293)
Hey Charles, how do you get the fiberglass shroud off the top of an M1A, may be called the hand guard....

special super duper super secret stealth tool avail from...................


springfieldarmory.com kinda look like goofy ass pliers.

that socom soon will have a ZEISS REFLEX itty bitty teensie weensie SOLAR/BATTERY POWERED RED DOT on it real damn soon after i get my hensoldt FERO Z scope dialed in on my HK 91.

zeiss reflex weighs nothing. rifle sighted fer 200yds. big ass aperture on rear sight for tritium front sight. basically fill sight picture with FUR(elk deer bear ) or center of mass(human) and pull the damn trigger and you will hit it! no ifs ands or butts left over!

super duper uber snooty match has springfield 4.5 x 14 illuminated range finding scope on it with match aperture and see thru iron site scope mt. best of both worlds. if ya cant hit target with that rifle..............yer a freeking RETARD!

charleskieffner 11-18-2008 04:42 AM

also NOTE YELLOW BOLT OPEN INDICATOR FLAG IN BREECH!

this is a lil trick from shooting match shoots. since all of us are UBER SAFE when handling firearms all of the time...........place that lil sucker in breech thereby knowing there AINT A ROUND IN DA CHAMBER TO BLOW YER OR YER FRIENDS HEAD OFF! i keep all of my rifles with loaded mag in gun with breech flag in safe. unless im firing gun ........FLAG IS ALWAYS IN PIPE!

AD's suck.............and they really really hurt and they really are permanent!

available von.......................MIDWAY all of a buck and a half (1.50$$)

every semi auto of mine has juan. be it pistol or rifle.

safety first!

red-beard 11-18-2008 04:46 AM

I expect I will get an M1A, but it won't be cheap. I could have picked up a CETME, but I prefer the gas operated system.

Well, with the money I've saved on the FAL, maybe I'll pickup another CMP 1903 Springfield.

Jeff Higgins 11-18-2008 04:58 AM

How freak'n hard is it to find an M1A?!?
 
Damn... turned the house upside down and couldn't find one...

id10t 11-18-2008 05:22 AM

What kind of FAL did you get? Who made the receiver, inch or metric?

Wideners has/had some good Privi 7.62x51 ball ammo, around $105 delivered for 200 rounds...

charleskieffner 11-18-2008 05:51 AM

redbeard look at sturmgewehr.com always sumthang there.

note: buy an HK not a cetme. also when buying HK ask owner if rollers have ever been changed. why? cuz its a damn good if not an exact indicator of useage, kind of like compression check on our 911's.

now if yer really eager to light up countryside............


check out mi amigo ralph smith at rdts.com hk guru bar NONE!

ralph jes went thru my hk. owned since i was around 20 yrs old. medium amount of shooting over the years. i made mistake of buying buffertechnolgies poly razz ma taz buffer and installed. im 51 now!

over the years i angst about buying psg1 adj stock vey pricey then and now. hks designed for smaller guys than me. im 6'3 215 with long arms. when i mounted arms QD scope mt and leupold 6x scope, my cheek set wasnt right. always bobbed and weaved to get sight picture. bought e&l cheek piece and adj butt piece from val at E& L(friend of ralph at rdts. this werked ok.

along comes magpul. magpul comes up with damn near a spittin image of psg1 adj stock. bought from hkparts fer $250 bucks.

foaming at mouth to install and it turns into kluster fuch because of old oem hk buffer not fitting and buffertechnolgies buffer not fitting magpul. decided what the hell..............LETS MASSAGE THE HELL OUTTA DA HK AT RDTS.COM!

dropped off with ralph. ralph checked headspace. NO BUENO! over years buffer technolgies buffer wasnt kosher and thereby we had some wear on rollers. so ralph slapped in some +4 rollers headspaced/tuned/honed/massaged/jerked on my hk and mounted magpul adj cheek and butt stock.

FREEKING WUNDERBAR! no more bob and weave for site picture, fits me for length of pull like a custom mcmillian. this being with leupold 6x fixed which is about 2 shipping days away from being replaced with zoommy uber snooty HENSOLDT(military division of zeiss) .308 bullet drop compensated iluminated mil dot, FERO Z model III BUILT FER HK SCOPE von cheaper thandirt.com in tejas .

cant freeking wait!

so should you buy hk.....................check DER ROLLERS FER WEAR!

ralph handed me back an HK i never thought could be that clean. within hour of receiving sat. cracked a beer and tore down to firing pin. this is my backup elk rifle so i figured it would be prudent to make sure all was kosher. and it went bang when it should.

man i could EAT OFF OF IT!

ralphsmith is GOD/GURU/BUDDAH of HK ORGAZZZZZMMMS!

Porsche-O-Phile 11-18-2008 06:21 AM

Cripes, even POS Yugo SKS rifles are up over $400 now...

Glad I bought in when I did.

red-beard 11-18-2008 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by id10t (Post 4310375)
What kind of FAL did you get? Who made the receiver, inch or metric?

Wideners has/had some good Privi 7.62x51 ball ammo, around $105 delivered for 200 rounds...

Century Inch.

id10t 11-18-2008 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 4310641)
Century Inch.

Serial starting with CL by any chance? Shop I help just got one of these in, serial is CL0003xx. My Century is all metric, have no real issues with it.

Let me know what you think after you've put some lead thru it.

Superman 11-18-2008 07:58 AM

That's not nearly enough firepower. Once Obama takes over, those who do not have at least a couple of .50 cal machine guns mounted on a mobile turret will be overtaken very quickly.

charleskieffner 11-18-2008 08:16 AM

some of you are propably wondering a coupla thangs........................

YES I CAN AND WILL BECAUSE I CAN(legally) use my SOCOM M1-A and my M1-A SUPER DUPER ARRINGTON SUPER DUPER MATCH and my super duper secret stealth uber snoootty RDTS.com massaged HK-91 mit der HENSOLDT FERO Z24 GE-SCOPEN fur our upcomin 3-BULL TAG ELK HUNT!!!!!

why? poor-kay???

because covering lots of miles bouncing the snot out of a highly tuned excruciating expensive mcmillian/leupold rifle is not good for it, on a quad. fine tuned scoped rifles are meant for walking.............PERIOD! way too spendy , wayyy too much time finding zero and correct ammo poured into them.

azgfd laws ALLOW any semi-auto black green pink red yellow von any country to be used in the LAWFUL/LEGAL pursuit of game as long as you use and only have in possesion FIVE (5) ROUND CLIPS! letter of the law ALLOWS 5 rd clip inserted into weapon and (1) JUAN round in pipe(chamber) fer a total of SIX (6) in weapon. hollowpoints ONLY! NO FMJ's/armor piercing/NO TRACERS! all my .308's use ONLY FEDERAL MATCH 168GR BOAT TAIL HOLLOWPOINTS! PERIOD!

i'll bounce the hell outta the m-1's, the hk, all day long all night long. but a bolt scoped rifle like my mcmillian M40-A1 or my mcmillian winchester model 70 in .338..................THEMS WALKING RIFLES and they do not like BEING HAMMERED TO DEATH IN A CASE OR ON THE HANDLEBARS OF A QUAD! ask me how i know.

yer zero being changed by hammering the snot out of it riding over rocky terrain can SUCK BIG TIME when it comes for the shot of a lifetime on a bull elk.

i have literally covered my m-1 winchester carbine with mud one very snowy wet snot slinging MUDDY deer hunt south of the grande canon(grand hole in ground). only thing that didnt have mud snow slush snot on it was muzzle due to me placing a rubber on muzzle. this was on rack on handlebars of quad. mud flying everywhere no mattter how fast or slow you went. i was covered in the crap.

so remember ....................evil/black ELK ASSAULT rifles fer quad use when covering big hunt units. and bolt actions FOR WALKING!

our hunting lineup this year::::

me on quad with hk-91 or socom.
me walking -with winchester .338

son on quad with either socom or hk-91
son walking- with marlin(nelson ford action job-2 finger lever-like butter) stainless 1895/leupold 3x9 45/70

follically challenged hunting amigo on quad w/fn/fal
follically challenged hunting amigo walking with .300 weatherbeeeeeeeee magnum.

all three of us carrying .45's. (2) springfields and (1) kimber(follically challenged guy).

(3) BULL ELK TAGS
(1) MOUNTAIN LION TAG(lots of them in this unit)

Porsche-O-Phile 11-18-2008 09:01 AM

Thinking about one here too...

I picked up a really cool Steyr M95 yesterday but ammo is a PITA to get for it - and pricey. I ordered a bunch, but I'm probably not going to shoot that one too much - maybe 20-50 rounds just to sight it in and then put it on display/keep around if ever needed.

Mostly I got it for collectible reasons, but those 8x56 rounds pack a pretty mean whallop too - although way too expensive to shoot regularly. The M1 .30 is also a bit expensive, but the ammo is a lot easier to source at least.

I'm not that expert on M1s so wondering what the "best" variant is - probably a Springfield .30? Garand? There are a ton of different ones out there.

charleskieffner 11-18-2008 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 4310814)
Thinking about one here too...

I picked up a really cool Steyr M95 yesterday but ammo is a PITA to get for it - and pricey. I ordered a bunch, but I'm probably not going to shoot that one too much - maybe 20-50 rounds just to sight it in and then put it on display/keep around if ever needed.

Mostly I got it for collectible reasons, but those 8x56 rounds pack a pretty mean whallop too - although way too expensive to shoot regularly. The M1 .30 is also a bit expensive, but the ammo is a lot easier to source at least.

I'm not that expert on M1s so wondering what the "best" variant is - probably a Springfield .30? Garand? There are a ton of different ones out there.

wow any springfield is "GOOD" any m-1A is good. kinda like stock 911 and a 917. how tight of groups do ya want!

red-beard 11-18-2008 09:12 AM

I have an M1, a Service grade CMP, for I think $550. After a good cleaning, it works great.

To me, the M1A is what I want. I just can't find one I can afford at the moment.

Porsche-O-Phile 11-18-2008 09:45 AM

There are two at my local Big-5 right now (including one I've been mulling over for a while). I could go down, buy you one and then transfer it to your FFL as a person-to-person transfer if you want to go that route. Just let me know. It's kind of a circuitous way to do it, but at least you'd get your M1.

red-beard 11-18-2008 01:38 PM

Jeff, an M1 or an M1A (semi-auto M14) ?

red-beard 11-18-2008 02:41 PM

OK, update:

FAL - Check

10 Pak of 20 rnd mags - check

2 x 30 rd M1A mags - check

2 x Preban (1994) USGI M14 20 rnd mags - check

Total = $1050

Porsche-O-Phile 11-18-2008 05:42 PM

Pretty sure they're M1As but I'll have to run down there tomorrow and double-check for you. Hell, I guess I can put off those new 911 plug wires for another few weeks and get another gun instead... ;)


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