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Rot 911 01-09-2009 06:48 AM

Guys I could sure you some good thoughts
 
I meant "use" and not "you." The stress is taking a toll.

For me an my wife.

We both work for the state. We, along with 150 other state workers were fired by the new Governor on Wednesday. As of 5 p.m. today we will both be unemployed.

On top of that, the Prosecutor that fired me two years ago when he came into office, is scared that I am going to run against him in 2010 and has started a smear campaign that will probably be page one in our local paper today.

I am trying to rise above it all, but at 3:00 in the morning when you are lying wide awake in bed it sure gets tough. I need to stay strong for my wife and daughter so I just keep putting on a smiling face for them. You guys are all I got.

bivenator 01-09-2009 06:53 AM

Kurt, very sorry to hear of your situation. Stay strong.

ruf-porsche 01-09-2009 06:56 AM

Sorry to hear about your problems. I was laid off back in Sept. 2008. I'm trying to make the best of it. I'm spending a lot of time with my 4 yr. old son. He's talking quit a bit, and now when you ask him a question he can reply with an answer. My wife thinks he has autism but I don't think so. At least I have a monthly pension that cover my expenses and medical insurance.

Times are tough and I think times will get worse before they get better.

I'm hoping that change for this country will lead to a better tomorrow for everyone.

Laneco 01-09-2009 06:57 AM

Alot of good people getting pink slips lately, Kurt - sorry to hear that you both got them at the same time. That's got to be ugly...

Try to turn this high stress time into some quality family time. Shut the phone off, don't watch the news, don't read the paper. Go to a park, take a hike, have a fun drive. Your priorities are your family and your health. Everything else is just stuff. Okay, the Porsches are really cool stuff -but the are just stuff.;)

Hang in there Kurt.

angela

Porsche_monkey 01-09-2009 06:57 AM

Sorry to hear that Kurt. In the short term I think you should get some P.R. help on the 'smear campaign'. Maybe someone hear can help.

In the long term use this as an opportunity to look at what you want from life and figure out how to get it.

JeremyD 01-09-2009 07:06 AM

Sorry to hear it Kurt - my best advice is network. Look up old friends - people you have done business with in the past. Get out of the house and physically see them. Even if it's just to drop in and shake their hand.

In this economy - jobs will be filled by people that you know. No need to risk a job on an unknown entity. The best way people know that you are looking is by you telling them. No begging - just this is my current situation - if you hear of anything let me know. This works so much better in person and you will feel better when you reconnect.

lendaddy 01-09-2009 07:07 AM

Sorry to hear that Kurt. You knew you were getting let go though right? So I assume the smear is what's got you down, how nasty is it? Can you get your counter story out in the media?

I can tell you that it gets easier (the insane stress) trust me on this. This too shall pass.

strupgolf 01-09-2009 07:10 AM

Sorry to hear the news, but after a while it will look better. Keep up a good front, run against him and kick his butt in the next election. I got the ax in 2007, earn half of what I used to, but I'm very happy now. I'm doing what I want to do rather than what I have to do. I took stock of what I have, what I need, and thank god my wife still has her job. But I'm probably much older then you and have finally realized that I don't need nearly as much as I thought. We have been through these times before and will again. When I think back to when the news said it was bad, in reality it wasn't.

widebody911 01-09-2009 07:10 AM

has started a smear campaign that will probably be page one in our local paper today.

That was you?

Burnin' oil 01-09-2009 07:13 AM

Tough break(s). If there is a news story, let us know. I know people who know people.

Rot 911 01-09-2009 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 4407002)
has started a smear campaign that will probably be page one in our local paper today.

That was you?

Now that made me laugh! Thanks!

stomachmonkey 01-09-2009 07:17 AM

Bummer.

That sucks.

Don't know what to say other than hang in there.

Take some time to recharge before plunging into anything else.

In your current state of mind you may make hasty rash decisions.

Nothing going on now that can't wait a couple of weeks to address.

When my last co of 14 years shut the doors on us I reacted too quickly and in hindsight would have handled certain things differently.

Tishabet 01-09-2009 07:20 AM

That sucks Kurt... as Lendaddy said, this too shall pass. If you haven't done so already, you should join the Pelican OT group on LinkedIn, never hurts to expose your resume to people you know.

Keep your chin up in these hard times and you'll be teaching your daughter a lesson she will never forget.

legion 01-09-2009 07:21 AM

Maybe you should run against the prosecutor that is smearing you...

widgeon13 01-09-2009 07:26 AM

Sorry to hear about this, you think they might have split it up and not fired both of you or at least not at the same time.

poorsche930 01-09-2009 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyD (Post 4406989)
Sorry to hear it Kurt - my best advice is network. Look up old friends - people you have done business with in the past. Get out of the house and physically see them. Even if it's just to drop in and shake their hand.

In this economy - jobs will be filled by people that you know. No need to risk a job on an unknown entity. The best way people know that you are looking is by you telling them. No begging - just this is my current situation - if you hear of anything let me know. This works so much better in person and you will feel better when you reconnect.

x2, Thats my plan. Moving to a town that I haven't lived in since I was a kid. I still have friends and family there, but my only hope is for the "friendship" thing. it's a "backwards" kinda remote area. Keep your head up. I'm going to entertain the idea of jobs outside my "expertise", they may not be what I'm used to or permanent (i'm only staying one year).

What I'm trying to say is, fear of the unknown is normal, and "forced" change just plain sucks, BUT.... "Grieve" for a bit, then pick yourself up. Sounds like you've been pretty successful so far. How did you get to this point? Couldn't be random events, it must have been hard work. This is just the next rung in life's ladder.

Now that my "hallmark moment" is over. Stay focused and good luck. You shouldn't need any luck but it's there just incase. Take care.

cgarr 01-09-2009 07:48 AM

Just keep the truth on your side, they cant change that, our local paper tried a smear campaign against me several years back, I am now on top of the world and the paper is all but folded and out of business.

Truth always wins, you may not think so at the time but it does.

crustychief 01-09-2009 08:27 AM

Kurt, sorry to hear about your job, but like the people said, things will get better for you. just stay motivated and try to be positive. cgarr is right, the truth always wins.

turbo6bar 01-09-2009 08:40 AM

+1 to cgarr. Truth, honesty, and integrity can never be taken away.

You have health, family, and shelter. You're steps ahead of many these days. I wish you best luck. jurgen

dhoward 01-09-2009 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion (Post 4407028)
Maybe you should run against the prosecutor that is smearing you...

+1.
I'll help.

Hugh R 01-09-2009 08:47 AM

Kurt, sorry to hear that! I wish you and your family the best of luck.

charleskieffner 01-09-2009 08:50 AM

hey man sorry for whats stressing ya. but you can look at things the way i do.............

every closed door leads to an open door.


got lemons? make lemonade and charge 5 bucks a glass!

when i was in industrial sales no matter how good my numbers were, no matter how much i busted ass, i was always in the toilet when numbers went down. elections/congress/military budget cuts you freeking name it. no mattter how much i prayed, no matter how hard i werked something always shot me in the ass.

the perfect employee. a real "RA-RA"! up at 4am first call at 7am last call 445pm no lunches no titty bars no golf just hard werk.

what did i get? laid off due to downturn in biz.

WTF!

so i took a job for less pay.

less headaches

less road trip crap food

less goofy red eye flights planes trains automobiles insanity.

8 minutes to werk one way. 2 stoplights 2 stop signs.

wayyyyy less stress

and what did i get in return????

more time with my kids

my health and sanity back

a poster child mentality of alferd e. newmann "WHAT ME WORRY?"

home every night

werk 4 10's if werkload light or 6-10's if werkload heavy sundays off period.

take off as much time as i want(unpaid) if i choose to

lifes short and i HATE LAWYERS! you probably hate lawyers also.

ever think about opening yer own biz? nows the time.

reclaim yer sanity back.

ive been self employed for 10 glorious years now. wouldnt have it any other way.

retirement isnt even in my train of thought. retirees die early.

all jobs are a PITA big and small....................its being sneaky and having more fun than others that gets you thru each and every speed bump.

bosses are all the samo................full of poo and all over yer ass.

i am my own worse boss.............nobody can keep up with my pace. and my reward is what i have earned with my own hands.

i get up around 4am in at 6 werk to 4pm and adios. bring my lunch most days(im cheap).

playing fall guy every few years is for the birds. i will never take the fall for others moronic actions or behaviour.

be proactive with this and you will thank me.

remember this................find something that it doesnt matter who is in office. a product or service that continues on despite the economy.

small biz self employed is THE WAY TO BE! good luck

Dottore 01-09-2009 09:01 AM

Really sorry to hear this Kurt.

What kind of law do you do?

Danimal16 01-09-2009 09:19 AM

Kurt,

Politics suck. You may be in for a fight. You are a man of conviction and it may hurt, but keep at it. It could take some time but you will prevail. I am sorry that you are going through this. Make it the good fight.

Danimal16 01-09-2009 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charleskieffner (Post 4407202)
hey man sorry for whats stressing ya. but you can look at things the way i do.............

every closed door leads to an open door.

Charles,

Sometimes I have a hard time reading your threads, its just me. BUT this one hits it spot on. I'm looking to do the this as well and your post inspires. Good on you and thanks for the words.

Zeke 01-09-2009 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion (Post 4407028)
Maybe you should run against the prosecutor that is smearing you...

Hello? Is that maybe he SHOULD run? I doesn't read right.

Anyway, stay in touch with the law community. Once I was told, "If someone speaks badly about you, act so as no one would believe him."

TSNAPCRACKLEPOP 01-09-2009 10:13 AM

Kurt! we are feeling for you here inKC. Seems like just months ago you were on here raving about that position coming up! Did you peruse the state listings? A friend started in nursing homes just to get his foot in, perfect job opened, he now lives at home, has all dairies north of hwy 36, hunts and fishes, retirement.

something will show up soon! soon enough.SmileWavy

Joeaksa 01-09-2009 10:46 AM

Kurt,

Sorry to hear this, especially right after the holiday season.

Every time something like this has happened to me, it usually ended up far better in the long run.

Keep the faith, keep your head high and keep moving forwards. Will put you on my prayer list.

Joe A

Rot 911 01-09-2009 01:53 PM

Thanks for all the kinds words. The article is in the afternoon paper. Fortunately it is Friday and by Monday the media will be on to something else. All of you have a great weekend!

Porsche-O-Phile 01-09-2009 02:04 PM

Take the high road and enjoy kicking his sleazy ass. Best of luck to you - these are hard times for everyone right now so keep looking for those rays of sunshine and enjoy them when/where you find them!

Go do something you enjoy - take a walk, go for a bike ride or a drive, whatever.

I'm starting to realize that no matter how much time you might spend stressing or worrying about things, the number of days you have on this earth doesn't change. That said, try to make them as happy as you can.

(boy, I hope I can start following my own advice more!)

Porsche-O-Phile 01-09-2009 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charleskieffner (Post 4407202)
hey man sorry for whats stressing ya. but you can look at things the way i do.............

every closed door leads to an open door.


got lemons? make lemonade and charge 5 bucks a glass!

when i was in industrial sales no matter how good my numbers were, no matter how much i busted ass, i was always in the toilet when numbers went down. elections/congress/military budget cuts you freeking name it. no mattter how much i prayed, no matter how hard i werked something always shot me in the ass.

the perfect employee. a real "RA-RA"! up at 4am first call at 7am last call 445pm no lunches no titty bars no golf just hard werk.

what did i get? laid off due to downturn in biz.

WTF!

so i took a job for less pay.

less headaches

less road trip crap food

less goofy red eye flights planes trains automobiles insanity.

8 minutes to werk one way. 2 stoplights 2 stop signs.

wayyyyy less stress

and what did i get in return????

more time with my kids

my health and sanity back

a poster child mentality of alferd e. newmann "WHAT ME WORRY?"

home every night

werk 4 10's if werkload light or 6-10's if werkload heavy sundays off period.

take off as much time as i want(unpaid) if i choose to

lifes short and i HATE LAWYERS! you probably hate lawyers also.

ever think about opening yer own biz? nows the time.

reclaim yer sanity back.

ive been self employed for 10 glorious years now. wouldnt have it any other way.

retirement isnt even in my train of thought. retirees die early.

all jobs are a PITA big and small....................its being sneaky and having more fun than others that gets you thru each and every speed bump.

bosses are all the samo................full of poo and all over yer ass.

i am my own worse boss.............nobody can keep up with my pace. and my reward is what i have earned with my own hands.

i get up around 4am in at 6 werk to 4pm and adios. bring my lunch most days(im cheap).

playing fall guy every few years is for the birds. i will never take the fall for others moronic actions or behaviour.

be proactive with this and you will thank me.

remember this................find something that it doesnt matter who is in office. a product or service that continues on despite the economy.

small biz self employed is THE WAY TO BE! good luck

Bless you - I'm hopeful I end up the same way. I'm going to print this out and look at it as an example of what "can potentially be" if I stay positive and focused in these tough times.

Best to you.

TSNAPCRACKLEPOP 01-09-2009 02:06 PM

i think more people will read about the pretty prostitutes!

cgarr 01-09-2009 02:17 PM

I don't read the newspaper anymore, I was dumbfounded by the stuff just made up by the reporter about myself, but you know what, the people who really knew me also said they didn't believe anything they just got done reading, they also ended their paper service. You can bank on the people who really know you!!

Kevin Taylor 01-09-2009 02:26 PM

Hey ....... we may need a new Mayor here in Kansas City, MO.
If you have been following the FUNK stories.

Best of luck finding something though.
Hang In There.


K.T.
1973 911 E 2.4 MFI
1983 911 SC
1978 911 SC
1965 Devin "D" / 1967 912 Power Plant
1998 GMC Serra 4X4 Z71
John Deere LT166
Money Can Buy Happiness........Buy A Porsche......a

tabs 01-09-2009 03:16 PM

Time to think about for an op ed piece to the editor...in response to the smear..

Superman 01-09-2009 03:20 PM

Sorry to hear this, Kurt. I'll do what I can which is simply to offer my good thoughts and prayers.

911Rob 01-09-2009 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgarr (Post 4407085)
Just keep the truth on your side, they cant change that, our local paper tried a smear campaign against me several years back, I am now on top of the world and the paper is all but folded and out of business.

Truth always wins, you may not think so at the time but it does.

Great Advise;
Sorry to hear your news. Stay strong, focus on the solutions.
You're a good guy Kurt, you'll land on your feet.

pwd72s 01-09-2009 08:56 PM

Sorry to hear this Kurt...FWIW, you've got my respect...especially all your kind work during the time we tried to save Warren. Politicians...don't like 'em much...especially D.A.'s...

azasadny 01-09-2009 09:00 PM

Kurt,
You and your family are in my prayers...

Evans, Marv 01-09-2009 09:03 PM

Sorry to hear it Kurt. Everybody here has said almost everything that can be said, so I'll just say hang in there and good luck. I hope things turn out in your favor.


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