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deathpunk dan 01-14-2009 08:18 AM

Leonard Cohen
Bob Pollard (Guided By Voices)
Ray Davies
Dee Dee Ramone
Townes Van Zandt
Roky Erickson
Lennon/McCartney
Springsteen
Lou Reed
Strummer/Jones
Mick n Keef

silverc4s 01-14-2009 08:25 AM

Many truly great songwriters here. Bob Dylan (little Bobby Zimmerman from Duluth, MN) is the Poet Laureate of our generation. Even when he speaks, lyrics come out.

9dreizig 01-14-2009 08:28 AM

Nobody's mentioned Randy Newman,, one of the greats..
Of course Neil Young, Dylan, Zevon, Paul Simon, Mark Knoeffler

rammstein 01-14-2009 09:00 AM

You've done a good job so far on the older stuff.

Personally, I think Kurt Cobain wrote some amazingly good stuff, and was headed in a very cool direction on their last album before he killed himself like a schmuck.

Good call on the Misfits too. I'm not sure if Danzig actually wrote their stuff, but those lyrics are the most catchy I've ever heard. You can hear one of those songs once, and then be able to repeat every word the rest of your life.

Heel n Toe 01-14-2009 09:44 AM

My list is a long one... and would go something like this... in no particular order and including some relative unknowns that are well worth checking out...

Lennon/McCartney
Jagger/Richards
Steve Earle
Eleanor McEvoy
Mary Chapin Carpenter
Shawn Colvin
Bruce Springsteen
Jerry Leiber/Mike Stoller
Woody Guthrie
Beth Wood
John Prine
Willie Dixon
Ray Davies
Brian Wilson
Van Morrison
Neil Young
Elvis Costello
Nick Drake
Tom Waits
Wendy Bucklew
John Fogerty
Bob Dylan
Carole King
Holland/Dozier/Holland
Jackson Browne
Joni Mitchell
Warren Zevon
Kris Kristofferson
James Taylor
Roy Orbison
Paul Simon


__________________________________
Thunder Road - B. Springsteen

The screen door slams
Mary's dress waves
Like a vision she dances across the porch
As the radio plays
Roy Orbison singing for the lonely
Hey that's me and I want you only
Don't turn me home again
I just can't face myself alone again
Don't run back inside
darling you know just what I'm here for
So you're scared and you're thinking
That maybe we ain't that young anymore
Show a little faith, there's magic in the night
You ain't a beauty, but hey you're alright
Oh and that's alright with me

You can hide `neath your covers
And study your pain
Make crosses from your lovers
Throw roses in the rain
Waste your summer praying in vain
For a savior to rise from these streets
Well now I'm no hero
That's understood
All the redemption I can offer, girl
Is beneath this dirty hood
With a chance to make it good somehow
Hey what else can we do now
Except roll down the window
And let the wind blow back your hair
Well the night's busting open
These two lanes will take us anywhere
We got one last chance to make it real
To trade in these wings on some wheels
Climb in back
Heaven's waiting on down the tracks
Oh oh come take my hand
Riding out tonight to case the promised land
Oh oh Thunder Road, oh Thunder Road
oh Thunder Road
Lying out there like a killer in the sun
Hey I know it's late we can make it if we run
Oh Thunder Road, sit tight take hold
Thunder Road

Well I got this guitar
And I learned how to make it talk
And my car's out back
If you're ready to take that long walk
From your front porch to my front seat
The door's open but the ride it ain't free
And I know you're lonely
For words that I ain't spoken
But tonight we'll be free
All the promises'll be broken
There were ghosts in the eyes
Of all the boys you sent away
They haunt this dusty beach road
In the skeleton frames of burned out Chevrolets

They scream your name at night in the street
Your graduation gown lies in rags at their feet
And in the lonely cool before dawn
You hear their engines roaring on
But when you get to the porch they're gone
On the wind, so Mary climb in
It's a town full of losers
And I'm pulling out of here to win.

VINMAN 01-14-2009 11:15 AM

Quincy Jones

Jim Steinman

Jimmy Buffett

Carol King

ramonesfreak 01-14-2009 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimT (Post 4416443)
Something that is a bit enlightening..... most of the favorites are songwriters from our youths....I think this is a reflection of the age of this slice of Porsche owners

Who are the new poets?

I saw Taj Mahal bout a year ago..

I used to go see Sonny Terry and Brownie Mcgee when they played My Fathers Place in Roslyn....(Old Bowling Alley, your feet were in the gutter ;-)

another tidbit.. I know many people shun Garcia and the Dead...

Garcia was a disciple of Dylan... We know the Band backed Dylan up... The Dead did as well fo a year or so....and even recorded it:

Dylan and the Dead

So many good poets and songwriter...

Who is taking up the yoke and running? I admit I am getting to old fart age... alopt of the new music doesnt shake my bones.... who should I listen to?



love sonny terry and brownie mcgee !! love garcia and dylan

who are the new poets and songwriters?

Beck is fantastic. You may enjoy his last 5 albums, maybe not. Quite the word-smith

Elliot Smith is an amazing writer and player. He unfortunately stabbed himself in the heart a few years ago and is now dead. Try one of his earlier records, well, try anything but Figure 8 to get a feel for it...love all his work.

WILCO - Jeff Tweedy is a wonderful writer. I prefer the last 3 records.....

Thats about all I can think of as far as songwriters are concerned...there are many many new bands that are amazing...but if we are talking poetry, these 3 are my tops for new stuff

ramonesfreak 01-14-2009 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathpunk dan (Post 4417054)
Leonard Cohen
Bob Pollard (Guided By Voices)
Ray Davies
Dee Dee Ramone
Townes Van Zandt
Roky Erickson
Lennon/McCartney
Springsteen
Lou Reed
Strummer/Jones
Mick n Keef

Did you see the Roky Erikson film? I watched it the other day....netflix has it as a play-now. Very good! !!!
http://www.rokymovie.com/

looking at your list, i realize i forgot Townes and Joe Strummer....its interesting that Townes, Strummer and Roky all have amazing documentaries made about them the past few years. Man o man the Townes film is depressing as hell and the Strummer film makes me tear up when i watch it :( i bought it and watch it too much though. love JOE STRUMMER

kstar 01-14-2009 12:24 PM

Elvis Costello.

Yes, I know John R. mentioned him in his long list, but I mention him alone.

ramonesfreak 01-15-2009 06:20 AM

Jonathan Richman

Paul Weller

deathpunk dan 01-15-2009 07:00 AM

Sradallf-

Yes, the roky erickson movie was good, but so sad for the most part. At one point during the film, an absolutely BLAZING version of 'white faces' plays. I gotta find that version. Cam King's guitar playing is just awesome.

The Roky film reminded me of a cross between the Ramones documentary and that movie Gray Gardens about the 2 old women living in the run down mansion with their cats.

I would quibble with J Richman but then I remembered how great some of his later stuff (That Summer Feeling!) is.

Elvis Costello, definitely. First 4 albums should be mandatory for all.

Tweedy though...think he's lost something off his fastball but then again I prefer the pre-Ghost Is Born stuff in general. Although, Impossible Germany just might be his best song and Cline's guitar playing is a case study in Verlaine/Lloyd-meets-boutique class A amp-refinement and taste.

I'm telling you though, Robert Pollard is one of the greatest songwriters of the last 40 years. It's hard for neophytes to sift through the chaff and a lot of the 4 track recorded stuff is an acquired taste for ears not used to it, though.

Pete Shelley, Paul Westerburg, and Bob Mould belong on the list ahead of Cobain IMHO.

ramonesfreak 01-15-2009 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathpunk dan (Post 4418969)
Although, Impossible Germany just might be his best song and Cline's guitar playing is a case study in Verlaine/Lloyd-meets-boutique class A amp-refinement and taste.

:D agreed! saw wilco a few weeks ago, and impossible germany was sick!!!! cline is exactly as you say & he's playing through a Schroeder DB7 these days. doesnt get much better than that i suppose

J. Richman....personally I prefer the Modern Lovers stuff to his solo stuff. Pablo Picasso -- a little assistance from John Cale never hurts.

Grey Gardens !! awsome film..nice reference...i thought of the film Crumb...odd talent. odd family. odd living arrangements...just plain odd. It was sad, but hey, he is out playing again so the therapy helped apparently.

I'll have to add John Lydon (Rotten) to this list. Like dee dee and strummer, he has written some of the all-time classic lyrics.

ramonesfreak 01-15-2009 07:23 AM

RE: Robert Pollard - must admit, ive not listened to much guided by voices stuff...ill start exploring it asap

ramonesfreak 01-15-2009 07:34 AM

oh..and no "best of" rock n roll list is complete with out mentioning my uncle,

Lemmy Kilmister


-he's not my uncle, just wish he was

HardDrive 01-15-2009 08:43 AM

Jello Biafra

You call yourself the Moral Majority
We call ourselves the people in the real world
Trying to rub us out, but we're going to survive
God must be dead if you're alive

You say, 'God loves you. Come and buy the Good News'
Then you buy the president and swimming pools
If Jesus don't save 'til we're lining your pockets
God must be dead if you're alive

Circus-tent con-men and Southern belle bunnies
Milk your emotions then they steal your money
It's the new dark ages with the fascists toting bibles
Cheap nostalgia for the Salem Witch Trials

Stodgy ayatollahs in their dobble-knit ties
Burn lots of books so they can feed you their lies
Masturbating with a flag and a bible
God must be dead if you're alive

Blow it out your ass, Jerry Falwell
Blow it out your ass, Jesse Helms
Blow it out your ass, Ronald Reagan
What's wrong with a mind of my own?

You don't want abortions, you want battered children
You want to ban the pill as if that solves the problem
Now you wanna force us to pray in school
God must be dead if you're such a fool

You're planning for a war with or without Iran
Building a police state with the Ku Klux Klan
Pissed at your neighbour? Don't bother to nag
Pick up the phone and turn in a fag

Blow it out your ass, Terry Dolan
Blow it out your ass, Phyllis Schlafly
Ram it up your ****, Anita
Cos God must be dead
If you're alive
God must be dead
If you're alive

HardDrive 01-15-2009 08:45 AM

Siouxsie

The day drags by like a wounded animal
The approaching disease, 92 degrees
The blood oin our veins and the brains in our head
The approaching unease, 92 degrees
Long ago in the headlines, they noticed it too
But too late for the loved ones and nearly for you .....

Shaky lines on the horizon
Snakey lines invade each person
Watch the red line creeping upwards
Watch the sanity line weaken
The volcanic depths of Hades' ocean
Bubble under, these crazed eruptions
It wriggles and wrythes and bites within,
Just below the sweating sun

I wondered when this would happen again
Now I watch the red line, reach that number again
The blood in our veins and the brains in our head .....

Drink the water with jagged glass
Eat the cactus with bleeding mouth
Not 91 or 93, but 92 Fahrenheit degrees

Shaky lines on the horizon
Snakey lines invade each person
Not 91 or 93, but 92 Fahrenheit degrees

LeeH 01-15-2009 09:16 AM

Brian Wilson

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keitho64 01-15-2009 04:00 PM

Peter Himmelman is one of my favorite all time song writers. If you are not familiar with his work it is worth a look.

ramonesfreak 01-15-2009 04:03 PM

gotta ad
Chuck Berry
Muddy Waters

m21sniper 01-15-2009 04:04 PM

How can i be the only person that said Led Zeppelin? LOL


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