Can computers become self aware?

[cantdrv55]

What would it take? How much processing power and speed? Would it be considered "giving life"? When could this take place? Would they turn on us? Would we be stupid enough to try it?

I've never slapped my monitor or slammed down on the keyboard so I would be safe.

[HardDrive]

It already knows everything about us and our world. It just doesn't care. Yet.

[YTNUKLR]

in some ways, a computer is already "self aware"

it has states that are goal-directed (ie., go to other states, or stay in the same one)

the real game in town is artificial neural networks that can learn..we have built ANN with about 5 million neurons so far. can learn not to run a robot into obstacles, etc. a human has about 100 Billion better-organized neurons so we have a long way to go.

[varmint]

one of my teachers had an idea to simulate evolution. take one thousand computers with the programming of a cockroach, and set up a random mutation and very simple problems for them to solve. every generation might take a day. those that show progress are allowed to survive. those that don't start over.

the idea was that over time "intelligence" would arise on it's own.

[ikarcuaso]

Each neuron in the human brain makes ~1000 synapses with other neurons. Simulating one synapse in an neural network requires 4 bytes of memory. A 5 million neuron network requires about 400,000 gigabytes. To simulate the entire human brain would require about 8 million gigabytes.

Of course, there's also the issue of whether it's even possible to accurately model biological self-awareness. For a computer to be truly self aware, it would need to cease merely following instructions and start to make decisions and develop ideas of its own accord.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Yes. It's already happened with biological computers. I imagine we'll see honest-to-goodness AI in a completely synthetic computer in our lifetimes.

It may already exist, but you didn't hear this from me. Remember that military stuff runs about 30-40 years ahead of "cutting edge" commercial-grade technology... Further in some areas...

[legion]

No, we don't have the processing power yet. Even computers that "learn" do so because of very limited instructions.

One idea I was playing with for a while was writing predictive models that self-adjusted--that is, learned from their own results and adjusted their own calculations to produce better results. Even when this was in the bubbling around in my head phase, I quickly realized the processing power it would take to look at and evaluate new variables in real-time. (And I have access to a lot of big iron.)

I remember hearing that science fiction writers in general tend to underestimate hardware advances and overestimate software advances. I consider intelligence and awareness to be software functions.

[poorsche930]

Originally Posted by legion

No, we don't have the processing power yet. Even computers that "learn" do so because of very limited instructions..

That sounds like any normal human baby.

[TechnoViking]

Skynet became self aware at 2:14 am EDT August 29, 1997

[ckissick]

So a compter might say, "I process, therefore I am."

[poorsche930]

Originally Posted by martin smith

skynet became self aware at 2:14 am edt august 29, 1997

lol. Thanks, John Conner

[MichiganMat]

By mathematical proof, its impossible for a computer to tell you when it will be done with any given calculation. Progress bars? A rough estimation at best.

Im betting the math will get in the way of the sci-fi dream of iRobot-style AI.

[rammstein]

Sci-Fi writers are responsible for most of my unhappiness. Growing up, I was made to believe that by 2002, we would be in space conducting scientific expeditions and engaging in intergalactic trade, all the while blasting enemies into submission with our super-cool weapons and meeting super-hot alien chicks who want human men very badly.

Flash to 2009. I am in a cubicle, under fluorescent lighting, running sensitivity analyses.

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[The Gaijin]

people are becoming less aware...

i actually yelled a young lady this morning - blocking my path while walking slowly down a staircase checking her PDA while i had seconds to catch my train..

[cstreit]

I imagine it won't happen untill we write the software that is capable of it. A computer without the software capable of taking it somewhere is just an expensive heater.

So I think we're a long way off from this.

[scottmandue]

No,

A bunch of scientist and engineers at MIT studied this for a long time several years ago.

Long story short computers are only machines that can only do what we tell (program) them to do.

Computers are very good for processing faster and remembering more (memory storage)

They will continue to get faster and have more memory storage but that is all.

[slakjaw]

Originally Posted by rammstein

Sci-Fi writers are responsible for most of my unhappiness. Growing up, I was made to believe that by 2002, we would be in space conducting scientific expeditions and engaging in intergalactic trade, all the while blasting enemies into submission with our super-cool weapons and meeting super-hot alien chicks who want human men very badly.

Flash to 2009. I am in a cubicle, under fluorescent lighting, running sensitivity analyses.

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Yeah me too.

Except my job is boring.

[Burnin' oil]

Originally Posted by rammstein

Sci-Fi writers are responsible for most of my unhappiness. Growing up, I was made to believe that by 2002, we would be in space conducting scientific expeditions and engaging in intergalactic trade, all the while blasting enemies into submission with our super-cool weapons and meeting super-hot alien chicks who want human men very badly.

Flash to 2009. I am in a cubicle, under fluorescent lighting, running sensitivity analyses.

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That sucks.

[KaptKaos]

42?

[scottmandue]

and where is my flying car?