They are about 5 minutes from my house. They don't have any. Interesting place though...

Sorry it didn't work out. I grabbed the 5817 (20RD/black/SS) from him a few days ago. I should have posted earlier.

no worries - seems like a very nice guy and he felt bad. Turns out the wood/blue is hard to find though there are some NIB ones on gunbroker. I have the syn/SS available locally but I prefer the wood I think.

Well, we're back in business. Turns out he did have one in stock, so now just have to connect the FFL dots. Huzzah!

I see the synthetic Mini's wholesale for $586. Unfortunately my favorite supplier has none available. It would seem supply-demand ruling the market.
Jim

nostatic it appears your going at this on looks which is fine. but the bottomline is with wooden stocks they SWELL. no ifs ands or butts. when wood swells due to climatic changes no matter how minute..............YOUR ZERO CHANGES! AND SOMETIMES ALOT! and dat means yer bullet aint going where ya want it to.

a naysayer??? please look at climatic records for your summers and your winters. look at humidity. up and down it goes. go from cali to az and you have an extreme moist to bone dry change. i cant keep enough lotion on my skin right now its so dry out.

wooden stocks get scratched. wooden stocks when you fall down get broken. wooden stocks break when dropped from various heights.

out of 2 guns safes i can only count 2 of my winchester 100 yr comm that i left alone. one of the 100yr comm i bought synthetic stocks for so as to save the wood from damage because i use the rifle. this came at an added expense on top of weapon price.

in other werds from experience i have hammered through my fault others fault or just circumstance my wooden stocks.

re: stainless vs. blue. well as i get older hopefully im getting smarter. if it aint stainless it better have a HE(hostile environment) coating on the weapon before i buy it anymore. and i dont mean bluing or parkerized. why because i have seen weapons here in just our short monsoon season july -sept surface rust to the point you have about a couple hours of cleaning to do and hopefully you dont remove bluing or parkerizing while your doing it. then yer screwed. and you live in the worst environment................SALT AIR!

hands down unless you have a climatically controlled safe synthetic stock stainless receiver and barrel no matter what weapon you purchase.

talk to marshall at CDNN.com and see if hes got any minis. yes hes in texas but you save taxes and if ya buy enough ammo to make freight well freight will then be free.

i hate to say it from what i have seen in the gun market yer sucking hind tit until mfg's catch up to demand and the fact you live in a gun paranoid state. mfg's are running with this big time as far as jacking up prices because if you read HB 45 and HB 1022 the clinton ban on weapons and mags will seem like kinderspiel(childsplay) and this time there aint NO LOOPHOLES!

yes you can always buy a synthetic stock after the fact at added cost. but face the music...................BLUING SUCKS! PARKERIZED SUCKS! WOOD SUCKS!

synthetic stainless will last generations with the MINIMAL OF CARE!

yes i own rugers, (3) of them. all bull barrels and all stainless and all synthetic. all tack drivers. go to volquartzen.com and start drooling. with proper optics/bull barrels and match .22 blammo you can knock the heads off of ohio blue tip wooden matches at 100yds!

Charles, can you double check the vendor URL? Site is "under construction." Thanks.

cdnn.com no caps or cdnn sports.com 1800 588-9500 or 325 695-4867 marshall is hip tell him i sent ya. check out their hk prices...............yummy.

secret here. make freight. ie spend a wad of cash on ammo and ya get da "good 'ol boy" discount.

hell i have j & g damn near in my backyard 1 hour away and there prices SUCKED compared to cdnn. it was cheaper to have all the "unmentionables" i purchased from cdnn wrapped in plain brown wrappers and delivered to the front door of the bat cave in lil ol cave krick az.

Hardwood/stainless is really nice. And low maintenance too.

PS: While synthetic stocks are not affected by weather, i never had any problem with any of the wooden stock rifles i had due to weather either.

While it is a tool, I like my tools to have an aesthetic as well. Just like I could have tracked a Subie, instead I tracked a 911. I can imagine getting a syn/SS setup at some point, but I love the look and feel of a wood stock with a blued barrel. It is just more pleasing to use, but that is a personal thing. I also "get" the black gun vibe as well, but not for the first pair. Maybe the next pair :p

Trust me, the wood/ blue thing is fine...shot mine again today just to get comfortable. I like the gun and much prefer the aesthetic as well.

My stock did swell a bit:cool:

"i have seen weapons here in just our short monsoon season july -sept surface rust to the point you have about a couple hours of cleaning to do and hopefully you dont remove bluing"

"BLUING SUCKS! PARKERIZED SUCKS! WOOD SUCKS!

synthetic stainless will last generations with the MINIMAL OF CARE!"

While I certainly appreciate Charles's enthusiasm for firearms (I could always use a few more customer's like him) I don't think I should let those comments go unanswered.
I'm sure 95% of the used guns that come through my shop are blued and I expect our humidity conditions are worse than CA or AZ. Guns that are well-cared for don't rust. They'll get some honest blueing wear and nicks and dings from the field but they don't rust with proper care. I've seen the same guns come in and out for 25 years, it's easy to tell use from abuse.
I certainly see guns come in with surface rust and pitting (they get discounted heavily) but I blame that on the owner.
I have any number of 50 year old guns, a few pushing 100, no rust.
Not to be contrary, but stainless steel guns can 'rust'. I had a S&W 66 come in that was pulled out of a (fresh water) lake. All the internals needed replacement.
I had a guy leave me with a late model Browning bolt .308 in stainless/synthetic. I'll be gdmed if I know what he did to the thing, the barrell and receiver looked like sh*#. I used Semichrome, emery cloth, anything I could think of. I hated to have it on the rack, everybody asked what happened to it.
I'll grant there can be some changes in your zero over time with wood stocks, but I feel that varies more from gun-to-gun than any absolute. I don't imagine we want to open the can of worms re "my scope got knocked out of adjustment since the last time I used it". How many hunting stories have I heard with that line? Zero isn't forever, you have to check it before any serious use.
Not to pick on you Charles, but re "one of the 100yr comm i bought synthetic stocks for so as to save the wood from damage because i use the rifle", you gotta be a rare guy. Granted I see Winchester commemoratives shot (there goes any collectable value) but I wonder what % of owners put synthetic stocks on them? Did you replace the shell lifter? Should you find yourself in no. AR please stop in, would love to chat with you. I think you would fit in with my cast of characters.
I would be remiss not to add that if conventional wisdom says that blued and walnut firearms are undesireable to own and any forum members wish to divest themselves of certain models I'm looking for (I can provide PP buy and sell firearm referrals) feel free to pm me.
Jim