ZOmbie gun duex - gunbroker.com purchases?
 

Anyone (especially in CA) had particularly good or bad experiences with gunbroker.com? I'm tracking both mini 14 and M1As right now. Hard to find anything in stock at local shops and my range will do FFL. I do notice that many sellers won't ship to CA even if the gun is "legal."

Friend buys alot on Gunbroker...

I have something for sale on GB

Tooo much hassle going into CA...

+ 1 on Gun Broker, bought my Springfield XD there. I am also following Mini 14's there, I wish I had bought 3 months when there under $500 used. Now the used are pulling $750 +. Damn, shoulda woulda coulda.

Gunbroker is great but as you've correctly noted, you need to do your homework to make sure what you want is legal in the People's Republik of Kalifornia. Make sure handguns meet the DOJ drop test requirements and call your FFL before you bid. Rifles are arguably a bit simpler but again you have to make sure you aren't in violation of any "assault weapon" restrictions or similar nonsense.

I've noticed that a LOT of sellers on GB simply say "no sales to CA", which I'm sure the DOJ and politicians are thrilled about and it's exactly what they want. But I've bought several from there - you just have to look and find people willing to work with you. Heck, if I lived out of state, I'd probably say "no sales to CA" too - it's a pain and a lot of potential headaches.

Another really good place to check is Calguns - since it's exclusively for CA, you can be pretty sure all the stuff sold there is legal (although again, check first).

I have the name of a REALLY good FFL guy in Redondo Beach if you want. Super nice, friendly and knowledgeable.

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Do I take it you're finally starting to believe there just miiiiiiiight be some "civil unrest" issues looming in the lovely city of angels? ;)

Todd,
Many folks on GB don't ship to Cali. Make sure they do. You could always go to a local WM. Someone here turned me on to calguns.net. Don't know if you already look there, if not, take a look...

Or what Jeff said.

Finally? Why do you think I already have about 2K rounds of ammo in my apt? :p

I'm more worried about zombies...and I need a long rifle to go shooting with my SMEs. I figure snipers would be good teachers...

One advantage of a Mini Nostatic, it's a lot lighter and shorter than the M1A, so would be a lot easier for the kid to use, should dad be incapacitated from zombie slaying> Haha. Both are great rifles though.

Aside from the political reasons not to ship to Cali (the "you made your bed, now lie in it" attitude) is that the extra steps involved open up the shipping FFL to Cali laws. And while the FFL may be in the right and legal, he/she may not be able to afford the legal fees to prove it.

I've purchased a couple through GB with no issue.

I have had a dealer in Cali approach me about buying my entire open-bolt collection. I then saw that the same guy was selling one that I know he bought. He paid about $1500.00 for the piece and was selling it for $4,800.00 to the folks in Cali and the people were drooling over the price ready to take it off his hands at the asking price. I would not have thought that there was over $3000.00 in expenses to be able to sell the gun in CA.

How are gun owners responsible for the actions of the majority of the state electing politicians which are antigun?

Actually, the paperwork is fairly minor, but since folks can sell elsewhere with less hassle, they do.

Well, went to the range and they had a 10/22 so we shot that. What a hoot...ordered one on the spot. The boy seems to prefer long guns. No mini 14s to be had though, and I can't shoot that at my local range. I can shoot shotguns though. Looks like finding a used mini14 on GB or calguns will be the ticket, and also looking for an 870. Then I'll be ready for fun...

if you're getting a shotgun anyway, i would stress again...get a semi. :)

A nice side benefit of an 11-87 Remington is that it's gas operated, so it kicks a lot less than a 870. A used 11-87 is probably about the same price as a new 870.

My Remington 1187 experience...
 

I've owned a Remington 1187 in 12ga for 13 years and have used it for duck/goose/pheasant hunting and skeet/trap and it's a great shotgun. Very easy to shoot, minimal recoil and easy to clean. Very reliable and inexpensive. I bought mine used at the local Gander Mountain for $375, I believe, but that was 13 years ago...

My uncle has an 11-87 too. 5+1 capacity, 20" barrel, very good zombie gun, right out of the box. You can easily put 90x .33cal pellets down range in under 3 seconds with that puppy. Serious anti-zombie tonic. You are well prepared my friend.

Doesn't CA have some weird law now about FFL's in other states complying with some kind of registry in CA? I think that's why a lot of folks on GB won't sell to CA, not because they don't want to, but aren't allowed to. However, that law can't go for non-FFL's, so just find a few private party listings and contact the sellers. If you have a cool FFL to do transfers for you, I can get you anything you want in AZ and ship it to your FFL. Guns grow on trees around here.

My range will do private party FFLs, but they won't do drop-shipped ones from dealers. Since they sell retail they don't want to be competing with internet dealers. I'm buying the 10/22 from them. I'm paying a little more than I would from the lowest online price, but it is totally no hassle. Plus I can go shoot the weapon at the range during the 10 day waiting period.

Yeah, I know...insert "Kalifornia" comment here ;)

I'm sure there are a few non-storefront FFL's left in CA who will do transfers for you. If you want something you can't get any non-CA dealer to ship to you and it's CA legal, I can get it for you here and mail it or bring it to your FFL on my next trip to LA. I hear there's a way around the hi-cap. mag. ban too, but we can discuss that offline.

I know nothing about hi-cap :D

So there is a local Mini 14 that is a '95 model, original box and parts, supposedly a 98% gun with little use. I know there were some changes over the years. Right now the local dealer is asking $600 with a $700 buy it now (seems a tad high). A new one will be around $875. Are the newer models worth the extra cash?

Yeah, I know they likely used to be lower but seems the price has risen. Go figure :p

The 95 model should be a 1:9 twist Ranch Rifle.

I found this tidbit on a site:

"Ruger made significant design alterations to the Mini-14 in 2005 which changed the receiver, rear and front sight configurations. All new Mini-14s are built as updated Ranch Rifles, with integral scope bases, non-folding ghost ring aperture rear sight (smaller than the original Mini-14 rear sight) and a winged front sight similar to that used on the Ruger Police Carbine."

Might want to look into the changes and see if a 2005+ model is worth spending the extra coin for. I'm not really familiar with the changes that were made.

There seems to be a lot of Ranch Rifle talk lately. The older/original arent known for accuracy. Not sure if that matters to you, but something to think about. If so, make sure you get the Ranch model, or the newest version (all newer versions are 'Ranch').

In my head, if I have a rifle not known for accuracy, I want it to have a punch. You know, for Zombies. .223 requires accuracy to be effective.

It's about a 2 to 2.5 MOA weapon, depending on the example you get. That's plenty for zombies. They do sell a match-grade version, but the closer tolerances do equate to more potential for stoppages. A big part of the reason the standard model is so reliable is because it's not built to the much tighter tolerances of a rifle like the the AR-15.

It's all engineering trade-offs.

There seems to be varying opinions on the accuracy. While perhaps not the best choice for serious target/competition, it seems to be plenty accurate for most uses.

Basically I'm looking for something semi auto that would be a good earthquake gun (to accompany a 12 gauge) and fun for plinking at an outdoor range. That also doesn't break the bank. Love the M1A, but can't handle that much $$$ right now. Mini 14 seems to be a good alternative to an AR/AK. And I like wood stocks and a more subtle look.

Another Zombie Tactical
 

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SmileWavy

So, anyone have one of these Keltec SU-16CA?

I have read mixed review, but looks like a good beater - very light and foldable - CA legal - AK47 style gas operated:

http://www.impactguns.com/store/640832000856.html

???

I still think you should consider an M1.

Agreed. See my comments in the other thread
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/454275-zombie-rifle-post4457279.html#post4457279

I have owned an M1, have an M1A carbine and just traded for a Mini-14 yesterday (I got the Mini with a scope for my Bushmaster Varminter, some money and I got to keep the scope off the Bushmaster:cool:).

I like the lighter guns.

I got the Mini-14 sighted in and I really prefer it to the Bushmaster. The guy I traded with really prefers the Bushmaster, so we're both happy. Gun karma good:)

I ordered an M1A from a guy I do business with for wrok a couple of weeks ago. He gave me a good price, so now its just a waiting game.

I still need to get a scope for my 22-250 that I built around a Savage action....

Bill

Order ammo now, very hard to find. You will love the gun. I bought mine from a Pelican (on2wheels52), a very nice 1943 Winchester-made A1A carbine and could not be happier.

Enjoy.

When he says M1A, I think he means M14, not M1A1 (M1 Carbine)

If I pickup an M1 Carbine, it will be a CMP. But I need the moolah first...

Seems I'm gunslexic:cool:

M1-A1, a M1 Carbine Variant, chambered for .30 Carbine, a glorified pistol round:
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M1 Garand, 30-06:
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M1A (semi-auto version of M14), 308.
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M1 and M1A are essentially the same rifle, with the only real difference being the magazine, and the ammo, 30-06 vs .308, which are pretty similar in military loadings.

Tom

There is a company in the Phillipines that does M1 to M14 conversion. Unfortunately, you have to do them by the truckload.

OTOH, how would an M1 that was converted to take a magazine and converted to .308, fall under the AWB?

A few months ago the CA Department of Justice sent me (and I assume all other non-CA FFL holders) their CA Firearms Licensee Check (CFLC) enrollment application. Not much to the form, just name and contact information.
As I read it, the out of state dealer must obtain a "verification approval number" from the CA DOJ prior to shipping to a dealer on CA's 'approved' database.
It seems it can be done quickly over the internet.

I haven't filled out the application yet.
Jim

Well, I have an FFL here, but haven't gotten word back from the dealer who is selling. Did ping a few others and none of them would ship to CA, but they were private parties. Go figure...

WTF? What's the difference if a non-FFL ships to CA or PA? None.

The nice thing about the M1, it will arrive at your door.

You or another adult will need to be home to sign for it...

Nothing beats a bayonet for slinging zombies. More accurate than the AK, yet still have enough punch. It's a ton of fun to shoot.

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From CMP? I thought it said you had to be a member of one of their affiliated clubs.