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mattdavis11 02-02-2009 05:35 AM
The Ntn'l athem..... I cringe 95% of the time. Someone played the tune with a trumpet not too long ago, it was the best I'd heard in years.

As for Bruce, it's not my fault he has fame. He's awful, always has been.

Buckterrier 02-02-2009 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mattdavis11 (Post 4459353)
The Ntn'l anthem..... I cringe 95% of the time. Someone played the tune with a trumpet not too long ago, it was the best I'd heard in years.
I remember that Matt. Yes it was a beautiful rendition. I also remember having to listen to my older brother practicing the trumpet day after day. Coming out of his room lips all red. That was a talented man.

rpastir 02-02-2009 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rpastir (Post 4458625)
Are you guys high? That was classic Bruce. Awesome job.
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Originally Posted by Rearden (Post 4458878)
I was, and he still sucked.

Jennifer Hudson was wonderful with the National Anthem.
Your head was clouded in a drug induced haze and we're supposed to listen to your opinion why?

Rick Lee 02-02-2009 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Buckterrier (Post 4459347)
My bad, it just seemed that long. But who's counting ;)
Someone mentioned a cult following for the Boss? Cult following????? Phish has a cult following :confused:
I meant that Bruce exactly the kind of person I would think would have a cult following instead of being a superstar.

lendaddy 02-02-2009 06:05 AM
It was terrible, we actually turned the channel. To each their own but I suspect the only ones that enjoyed it were fans transposing better days. Just an awful excuse for entertainment. JMHO

Big Ed 02-02-2009 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 4459406)
It was terrible, we actually turned the channel. To each their own but I suspect the only ones that enjoyed it were fans transposing better days. Just an awful excuse for entertainment. JMHO
Plus you were pissed at how the first half ended.

rouxroux 02-02-2009 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mattdavis11 (Post 4459353)
The Ntn'l athem..... I cringe 95% of the time. Someone played the tune with a trumpet not too long ago, it was the best I'd heard in years.

As for Bruce, it's not my fault he has fame. He's awful, always has been.
That was Chris Botti playing trumpet a few years back @ the AFC Championship game.

As far as "Bruuuuuuthe" is concerned, I'd rather heard the Miller Beer guy say "High Life" 738 times in a row than Springsteen.

lendaddy 02-02-2009 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Ed (Post 4459442)
Plus you were pissed at how the first half ended.
Good point :D

madcorgi 02-02-2009 07:01 AM
Listen to last year's Magic album, especially Gypsy Biker and Devil's Arcade. Awesome songs about relevant topics.

He's 58 years old, tours constantly, plays 3 hour shows, has written hundreds of songs, and is a genuinely wonderful human being.

As for being old . . .sorry guys, but that's a condition that's going around.

Terry

Zeke 02-02-2009 07:27 AM
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought the show was pretty bad. It wasn't so much the music or vocals as it was the hype. BS was running around like an idiot. Sure, I know what his regular shows are like, I've been there, but his "slide" and other hi jinks were way over the top.

What's interesting is that there was a "Classic, Videos" on VH1 about BS during the second half. Comparing the films to the show made me embarrassed for ol' pudgy Bruce.

In the end, I think he was celebrating himself.

9dreizig 02-02-2009 07:40 AM
I wonder how much the old fart got to sell out to say "I'm going to Disneyland" ??

bivenator 02-02-2009 07:40 AM
Slakjaw, the best part of the HT show was the woman in red shakin them for the camera. I think she was on for almost 30 seconds total. Is that about 3 mil?

KaptKaos 02-02-2009 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Heel n Toe (Post 4459099)
Rick, as a longtime fan of Springsteen, I'll say that there are plenty of people who wish he wasn't such a superstar. We remember when he played much smaller venues and you could show up an hour before the tix went on sale and be 20th in line and get 10th row.

Then MTV happened. That "Dancing in the Dark" video directed by Brian DePalma. And all of a sudden, millions of women finally "got" Springsteen and made their boyfriends and husbands get tickets when he toured... and it all went superstar from there.

For most fans who have been with him since the early days, that Born in the USA album is their least favorite. It's got some good songs on it, but it represents the newbie fan... the latecomer who didn't feel the blue-eyed soul thing from the beginning... think Motown meets Young Rascals meets Elvis meets Dylan.

It's all there... if the music and lyrics resonates with you, you get it totally... if it doesn't, well, no big deal, but make sure you've sat down with one or more of the early albums and listened on headphones and read the lyrics before you say he's nothing great.

I don't dig his politics at all, and will probably never ante up the big bucks to go see him live again because he's gotten so big... last two times I saw him it was in Charlotte in the old Hornets arena. Just nothing close to the old days, and now when he launches into a song or a harp solo, the newbie fans scream bloody murder for 5 to 10 seconds and cover up the magic.

Also, if you know anyone who is a big fan, ask them if they have a copy of the 35th anniversary BTR set that includes the DVD of the 1975 Hammersmith Odeon concert. Ask 'em if you can borrow it or watch it with them.

It's pure magic.
Rumor was that he'd still do an unannounced show at the Stone Pony from time to time.

Being from Jersey, you can't escape the guy. His music is played every 4th of July, non-stop and most other times of the year too. So it's easy to get sick of the guy really fast.

His politics have gotten much more vocal and left in recent years (or am I paying more attention?) and that turns some folks off too.

Not unlike Dylan, he's a poet with a lousy voice that can play the guitar.

slakjaw 02-02-2009 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bivenator (Post 4459569)
Slakjaw, the best part of the HT show was the woman in red shakin them for the camera. I think she was on for almost 30 seconds total. Is that about 3 mil?
Thats the one! I wish I had TiVO so I could have recorded just that 30 seconds.

RANDY P 02-02-2009 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4459013)
If Eddie billed himself as a lead singer, then yes, I'd say he sucks. I don't think Bruce is even close to good at singing or playing guitar. I don't like his songs either. In fact, I just don't understand why the guy is so popular. He's probably the only musician of his stature I just can't find anything to like about. I'm sure he's a nice guy though and I'm from NJ too.

Me neither. Never could figure out why people listen to him. I actually prefer a few of Bruce's songs - only when done as remakes by someone else.

Frankie Goes to Hollywood's version of Born to Run kills Bruce's.

rjp

ramonesfreak 02-02-2009 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4458987)
I never understood why Springsteen is so popular. He can't play guitar at all, which is probably why his guitar is usually turned all the way down in the mix. I can't stand his singing and the rest of the band is hard to hear, other than the horns. Max Weinberg is probably my least favorite drummer. And why the hell does anyone need two keyboardists, especially when their music is so simple? The most impressive thing to me about the halftime show was how quickly they can build that stage and then tear it back down. That is amazing.
oh hell come on. i ant no springsteen fan but the guy can rip on guitar. take a look at the Roy Orbison dvd where bruce plays in the backup band. he is no carl perkins but the guy can play his butt off and he often does

not sure why im sticking up for him but i feel i need to :p

Rick Lee 02-02-2009 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by srandallf (Post 4459684)
oh hell come on. i ant no springsteen fan but the guy can rip on guitar. take a look at the Roy Orbison dvd where bruce plays in the backup band. he is no carl perkins but the guy can play his butt off and he often does

not sure why im sticking up for him but i feel i need to :p
Shirley, you can't be serious. I think you forgot the green font.

If Bruce is a shredder, it's the world's best kept secret. I wonder why you can never even hear his Tele in the mix. Sorry, he ain't a serious guitar player. I bet his wife can play better and I can't hear her in the mix either. I can understand why folks like some of his tunes a lot more than I can understand how anyone thinks of Bruce as a guitar player. He's about as serious a player as Elvis was.

ramonesfreak 02-02-2009 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4459695)
Shirley, you can't be serious. I think you forgot the green font.

If Bruce is a shredder, it's the world's best kept secret. I wonder why you can never even hear his Tele in the mix. Sorry, he ain't a serious guitar player. I bet his wife can play better and I can't hear her in the mix either. I can understand why folks like some of his tunes a lot more than I can understand how anyone thinks of Bruce as a guitar player. He's about as serious a player as Elvis was.
Ive been playing guitar for almost 25 years. I know who the guitar heros of the world are....Bruce is NOT one of them. He is not my hero and he is never featured in the press/magazines as a guitar hero and I dont know anyone that even considers him an inspiration as a guitar hero...anymore than they do Woody Guthrie (who I happen to believe is in fact a guitar shredder)

But to say he is not a "serious guitar player" is nuts. I have seen him play his balls off on that tele on more than one occasion. From what I gather, he just doesnt bother to show off in that way these days.

Same goes for Tom Petty and Bob Dylan. Both are excellent players who let their lead player in the band shine (and get the credit)... on the rare occasion that Petty, Dylan or Springsteen feel inclined to step up and take over lead for a tune or two, I listen and appreciate their talent

As for being buried in the mix, I could very clearly here Bruce's playing last night...there was nothing buried about it. Unlike the general public, most of whom do not play a stringed instrument, I actually pay very close attention to rythm guitar players in bands because I like to see what they are doing.

As far as Springsteen is concerned though, my admiration for him stops after the Nebraska LP. & I did really enjoy that recent DVD concert in Ireland he did.

So who else could the NFL hire for half time? I cant think of anyone. The bands that I love that play live, would never fly on such a mainstream production....

If I had my way, I would resurrect Joe Strummer and have the clash bang out Mag7 or London Calling but anyway.....

Heel n Toe 02-02-2009 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4459695)
If Bruce is a shredder, it's the world's best kept secret. I wonder why you can never even hear his Tele in the mix.
It's not about shredding... it's about the feel of the song. Try this out... what's the song saying... do you think his playing fits the feel of the song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn6-KDZpFt8

Well It's Saturday night
you're all dressed up in blue
I been watching you awhile
maybe you been watching me too
So somebody ran out
left somebody's heart in a mess
Well if you're looking for love
honey I'm tougher than the rest

Some girls they want a handsome Dan
or some good-lookin' Joe on their arm
Some girls like a sweet-talkin' Romeo
Well 'round here baby
I learned you get what you can get
So if you're rough enough for love
honey I'm tougher than the rest

The road is dark
and it's a thin thin line
But I want you to know I'll walk it for you any time
Maybe your other boyfriends
couldn't pass the test
Well if you're rough and ready for love
honey I'm tougher than the rest

Well it ain't no secret
I've been around a time or two
Well I don't know baby maybe you've been around too
Well there's another dance
all you gotta do is say yes
And if you're rough and ready for love
honey I'm tougher than the rest
If you're rough enough for love
baby I'm tougher than the rest

Rick Lee 02-02-2009 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by srandallf (Post 4459731)

So who else could the NFL hire for half time? I cant think of anyone. The bands that I love that play live, would never fly on such a mainstream production....
That's a good question! I have a hard time seeing Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake and Janet Jackson fans running in the same circles as Bruce fans and serious football fans. I don't know how they come up with these acts, but I've never seen one I liked other than the Stones, who aren't even an American band.

stomachmonkey 02-02-2009 09:40 AM
The Wild The Innocent and the E Street Shuffle

For me his best album ever.

Everything after Born to Run I can live without.

This is before the E Street band came to be. Clarence is there but no Little Steven yet.

6 piece at the time with Bruce handling all guitars, some bass, harmonica, mandolin and vocals.

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Heel n Toe 02-02-2009 09:44 AM
Can you please post a link for that, stomachmonkey? I'm guessing it's Rosalita, but my system/servers at work won't read it embedded.

Seahawk 02-02-2009 09:50 AM
'The Rising' is an amazing album...

ramonesfreak 02-02-2009 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4459761)
That's a good question! I have a hard time seeing Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake and Janet Jackson fans running in the same circles as Bruce fans and serious football fans. I don't know how they come up with these acts, but I've never seen one I liked other than the Stones, who aren't even an American band.
Anyone that has seen Neil Young live with his electic band would probably agree that he could pull it off....energy and decibels....but he is probably too cool for the event :cool:

AC/DC could pull it off too without being too controversial...energy and decibels...nice and rowdy

sammyg2 02-02-2009 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by srandallf (Post 4459731)
So who else could the NFL hire for half time? I cant think of anyone. The bands that I love that play live, would never fly on such a mainstream production....
Prolly a good thing I'm not in charge of the half-time act.
I'd have Paul McCartney and his band on every single year.

Seriously, that's a good question and may be worthy of it's own thread and maybe eventually a poll or three.

Here's a quick list I came up with. My appologies if these guys are dead or otherwise not playing and couldn't do a reunion song or two.

Sir Paul McCartney
Van Halen
The Who
Beach Boys
Bowie
Stevie Wonder
EJ
Led Zepplin
Mark Knopfler
AC/DC
Rush
KISS
Peter Frampton (who BTW is a REAL guitar player)
Foreigner
REO
Berlin
Kenny Loggins (highway to the danger zone ba da bump, I can see it now)

And my all-time favorite, The guy in the gorilla suit doing Phil Collins

t951 02-02-2009 10:19 AM
I am AMAZED at people who think Bruce is worth listening too. It sounds like a drunk guy mumbling and the music goes along with that.

The only thing he ever did right was bring Courtney Cox on the stage in one of his videos.

We had a bunch of people over for the Superbowl. We asked what people wanted to watch during half time. Not ONE single person wanted to endure Bruce. No one. Actually, when we asked, not one person even liked Bruce. We were amazed that they selected him, but I guess it makes sense. It is marketing....beer, blue collar and football seem to blend.

Hey, if you like his stuff, good for you, we (the 30 people that were over) don't get it.

For the record, I think talented musician / singers would be Eric Clapton, SRV, Johnny Lang, BB King......I could go on and on.....Bruce just wouldn't make the list....

My .02

Heel n Toe 02-02-2009 10:26 AM
For the non-believers... Bruce doin' some sweet shreddin'... with a lot of feelin'... the Tele's cryin' for all it's worth here... All Along the Watchtower:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feK6MV8osZ4&NR=1

ramonesfreak 02-02-2009 10:29 AM
Motorhead would rock the house

in a perfect world, Amon Amarth would slaughter the audience with their sweet soft music :-)

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flatbutt 02-02-2009 10:58 AM
Maybe it's a Jersey thing. We love Bruce because he sings to us, he's our own and he gets what it's like living here. When he sang about barefoot girls sitting on the hood of a Dodge drinking beer in a warm summer rain, WE know exactly the scene he's talking about. The rest of you can go spit!;)

porkee 02-02-2009 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 4458923)
That was the national anthem? I couldn't tell, it sounded so much like a typical lounge act.
She changed the song. She changed the melody, missed a few of the words, even took it into a minor key. Not cool.
It's the national anthem. It deserves more respect than it got tonight.
And one of the talking heads on the news this morning said she lip sinked it :rolleyes:

Zeke 02-02-2009 11:26 AM
McCartney can't sing either. I don't care if he is the world's most suckcesspool musician.

Why does the Super bowl have to have a half time show anyway? I probably wouldn't have watched had I not thought i was going to miss a great commercial. Even the batch they aired this time weren't up to the best I've seen. One or two were worth it. Even Budweiser stubbed their hoof.

hardflex 02-02-2009 11:36 AM
I'll go against the grain here, I'm not a huge Springsteen fan, but I watched the whole show, and that's a first for me. He had tunes I recognized, played short versions of them, and moved quickly through them. The band looked like it was having a great time, and that was infectious. I didn't get the feeling he was lip sincing the songs, looked real to me. Lasted 10 minutes, I had my fill didn't need an encore, and we got back to football. Just what was supposed to happen.

SlowToady 02-02-2009 11:41 AM
Not sure what Bruce was doing, but it wasn't playing music.

Absolute rubbish.

sezme 02-02-2009 11:47 AM
+1

Hit the nail on the head... I used to show up at 5pm on the night of a concert at "the pony" just to listen to sound checks. Great memories.



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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 4459918)
Maybe it's a Jersey thing. We love Bruce because he sings to us, he's our own and he gets what it's like living here. When he sang about barefoot girls sitting on the hood of a Dodge drinking beer in a warm summer rain, WE know exactly the scene he's talking about. The rest of you can go spit!;)

Heel n Toe 02-02-2009 12:05 PM
Was Bruce Springsteen's the best Super Bowl halftime party?
BY LAUREN JOHNSTON
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Monday, February 2nd 2009, 10:26 AM

Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band promised Super Bowl viewers a 12-minute party – and what the Boss promises, the Boss delivers.

Before he started singing – a wild-eyed, crazy-haired Springsteen demanded that at-home viewers “put the chicken fingers down and turn your television all the way up.”

He kicked off the show with the ever-rousing “Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out,” roared into “Born to Run,” tore through to a cut from his new album “Working on a Dream,” (promoting it was the whole reason he did the show anyways) – and raced to the finish full-throttle with “Glory Days.”

Springsteen had turned down several invitations to play the Super Bowl and finally said yes for XLIII following on the heels of other big name acts who had deemed the show a worthy stage.

So how did the E Street Band compare the other big names to grace the Super Bowl stage? You tell us which in recent years was best:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2009/02/02/2009-02-02_was_bruce_springsteens_the_best_super_bo.html

So far, the tribe has spoken and Bruce is dominating:

http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u.../Brucepoll.jpg

stomachmonkey 02-02-2009 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by porkee (Post 4459942)
And one of the talking heads on the news this morning said she lip sinked it :rolleyes:
She did.

Was pretty obvious.

Too high profile, they don't want anything to mess up the production value of the event.

ramonesfreak 02-02-2009 12:13 PM
I know there are a lot of U2 haters on this board...I think of all those bands in the pole, U2 is the best live performance bar far. ....though I didnt see their superbowl preformance. And Petty only got 8%? huh? his performance, whether partially pre-recorded or not, blew Bruce away

stomachmonkey 02-02-2009 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hardflex (Post 4459990)
I'll go against the grain here, I'm not a huge Springsteen fan, but I watched the whole show, and that's a first for me. He had tunes I recognized, played short versions of them, and moved quickly through them. The band looked like it was having a great time, and that was infectious. I didn't get the feeling he was lip sincing the songs, looked real to me. Lasted 10 minutes, I had my fill didn't need an encore, and we got back to football. Just what was supposed to happen.
He was not lip syncing.

They wanted him to use a backing track but he would not do the gig unless it was live.

Live v memorex is one of the defining things for me as to what constitutes an true musician/artist.

cairns 02-02-2009 01:00 PM
"The Wild The Innocent and the E Street Shuffle

For me his best album ever.

Everything after Born to Run I can live without.

This is before the E Street band came to be. Clarence is there but no Little Steven yet."

I TOTALLY 500% AGREE. Everytime I bought something he produced after Born to Run it was clear Bruce was taking himself FAR too seriously. Very few later songs came close to the magic he produced on E Street and no album ever equaled it. And if you wanted to get even more of your money's worth live (back in those days) Lowell George and Little Feat was the band to see.

And I agree about the National Anthem too. What's wrong with a simple traditional rendering?

MMARSH 02-02-2009 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 4459027)
You guys are a tough crowd. I'm not even a fan of his, but I got into the moment and enjoyed it for what it was - entertainment. And no, he's not in the best shape of his life, but he's in better shape than some of the posters here whom I've met. You know who I'm talking about. Look in the mirror before you blast someone else's fitness. Classless.

I agree. Never been a fan, but I thought it was a good show. He looked like he was having a good time and I enjoyed it.


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