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Weighed the bikes today

I finally fixed my 2007 Trek 2100ZR. I outfitted it with a smaller saddle bag, CO2 inflator, 2 tubes and tools.

I then moved a different smaller saddle bag onto my 1989 Trek 400 (All that remains is the frame, everything else is new). I noticed it really was heavier than the 2100ZR.

2007 Trek 2100ZR Frame (al frame with Carbon rear and Carbon fork)
Shimano 105 5600 Wheels
Shimano Ultegra Rear derailleur
Shimano Ultegra 12-27 Cassette
Shimano 105 triple Crank
Shimano 105 Chain
Cane Brakes
Carbon Seat Post
Carbon Headset
Al Handlebars
Tyme Carbon Pedals
2 std bottle cages
Bento Box
Saddle with 2 tubes, CO2 Inflator, 2 extra CO2 cartridges, 2 al tire levers, patches, bike tool
Continental GP4000 tires

Weight 22.5 lbs

1989 Trek 400 Frame Chrome Moly
Carbon/al Fork
Shimano 105 5600 Wheels
Shimano 105 Rear derailleur
Shimano 105 12-27 Cassette
Shimano 105 triple Crank
Shimano 105 Chain
Shimano 105 Brakes
Carbon Seat Post
Carbon Headset
Carbon Handlebars
Tyme Std Pedals
2 std bottle cages
2 bottle underseat carrier
Bento Box
Saddle with 2 tubes, 2 plastic tire levers, patches, bike tool
Frame Bike pump
Specialized Armidillo Tires

Weight 26 lbs

The underseat bottle carriers will be moved this weekend to the ZR2100 for a Century ride...

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Old 02-11-2009, 09:44 AM
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Haven't weighed all my bikes but I was rather surprised at how light my full boinger was. Weights are without seat packs. Of course, I think I have a distinct advantage here due to frame size....

Specialized Allez Pro 47cm
Terry TI Saddle
Spinegy Spox Wheels
Latex Tubes
25c kevlar tires
Dura-ace 9 speed
Time ATAC pedals
17 lbs and change

Giant NRS1 Disc Brake 16"
Marzochi SL 700 (front)
Fox Float (rear)
Terry TI Saddle
Spinergy Spox Wheels
Latex tubes
2.1 kevlar tires
XTR 9 speed w/XT cranks
Avid Disc
Time ATAC pedals
27 lbs dead even.

The weird thing is that the Giant rides "light". It feels probably 5 lbs lighter than it actually weighs. My cross bike and the hard tail fall in the 22 to 24 range.

I should dig up a picture of that Giant... I had it powdercoated pink! It's soooo sweet! Have a good long ride Redbeard!

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I notice you like the Time pedals as well.
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Nice rides

I went to a bike swap meet over the weekend, serious drool factor. I have 105 on my road bike too, just cant justify the cost to save a few grams.
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If I had the money, I would probably outfit my newer bike in all Ultegra. That, plus Ultegra wheels and a carbon handlebar set, might knock 1 lb off.

But it is far cheaper to take weight off the rider! At least this one!
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Mmm... i have a pair of SPOX on my hardtail. I love 'em. My bike is about 22-23.5 lbs, depending on what tires and tubes i'm running.
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I notice you like the Time pedals as well.
I think I actually got one of the very first pairs of Time mtb pedals. I bought a set of "Sierras" probably 12 or 14 years ago. Fell in love with the easy in/out and the mud-shedding ability. Now I just use the ATACs on all the bikes. Got my son using them too.

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Mmm... i have a pair of SPOX on my hardtail. I love 'em. My bike is about 22-23.5 lbs, depending on what tires and tubes i'm running.
Spox wheels are the bomb, aren't they? The set that are on my road bike I've had for probably 7 years now and I've had them trued once (after a fabulous pot-hole incident). The ones on the MTB have never been trued and have a couple of 12 hr and 5 or 6 24 hour solo mountain bike races on them.

Hmmm... Maybe I'll sneak out for a bike ride right now!

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What's Bento box? Why do you need bike tools? In my 20+ years of riding and training, I have yet to use it unless I am out adj saddle ot handle height. If you crash bang thing straight and ride home, If its that bad, cal someone. I use to cut a bottle and stuff tne inner tube and CO2 and tire lever in thereI hate that little bag in back of the saddle. If not, rap it up in plastic and strap it u into or underneath tha saddle as far as possible. But then I am old school. Cut weight at the wheels. You will fly.
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I notice you like the Time pedals as well.
Don't laugh, I have a set of original Look pedals on my Cilo & Campy on my Iron Horse

See, I'm not just Old School with my cars

I really need to weigh a few of my bikes, I need to find out what my old VW/Trek Team issue MTB weighs in at
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ive got the first trek postal bike with DA on it. have not ridin in years though. just sold a set of tri spokes on ebay. i think the bike is going on there next. kinda hard to sell. ive got the old time pedals, the $300 ones. i think they are ti. this is my 3rd trek frame. the first one i had cracked at the bottom braket. trek sent me a new one. bare carbon, so i painted in blue and yellow fade, looked real good. went to remove the bottom bracket on that one and it just spun. i guess the glue did not hold. then they sent the red white and blue frame. says a lot for the warrenty dept., considering the first one i bought was used. specialized was another good company for warrenty. had some wheel problems. giant was not so good. only bike i bought new and the wheels were junk. would not stay true and they would not replace them.
also have an old specialized hardrick MTB. been a good bike. im sure the front shock needs to be rebuilt. i also repainted it the same as my trek, blue and yellow, i dont have the road bike anymore.
i took the frame to this shop when i was in oklahoma. they had this huge booths they could put cars in and blast them with differrent kinds of material depending on what neededto be done. they could use sand, walnut, glass and other stuff. i always thought that might be a good buisiness to open. nothing like that around here. he sripped the frame for me.
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What's Bento box? Why do you need bike tools? In my 20+ years of riding and training, I have yet to use it unless I am out adj saddle ot handle height. If you crash bang thing straight and ride home, If its that bad, cal someone. I use to cut a bottle and stuff tne inner tube and CO2 and tire lever in thereI hate that little bag in back of the saddle. If not, rap it up in plastic and strap it u into or underneath tha saddle as far as possible. But then I am old school. Cut weight at the wheels. You will fly.
The tools are just a little gadget with various hex head and screw drivers, tiny really.

Bento Box is a small nylon box that rides just behind the stem on the top tube. You keep food/power gels in there, for extended rides. I like dried cherries and I make my own power gel juice using dextrose and a little flavoring. I keep them in "Hammer Gel" bottles.

I also make my own "Gatorade". I make lemonade with 1/2 of the mixture replaced with pure dextrose, and 1 tsp of "Lite Salt" per gallon. I also make one using various fruit juice mixed 50/50 with water and 1/4th tsp "Lite Salt" per bottle.

On the Centuries, I usually take what I can get from the rest stops, but the I hate regular Gatorade. I usually carry a few "Gator bombs", orange Gatorade powder setup in a plastic baggie which will make one bottle.

My Bike is setup for 4 bottles, but I carry 1 water, 2 "Gatorade" and a folding tire. If the centuries have support, I swap out the folding tire for an extra "Gatorade".

I like your idea of replacing one of the bottles with an old bottle with the repair gear. I do prefer having a real tire pump. The one I have has a pressure guage. I'll be taking the CO2 inflator on the Century, since I have the pump mounted on the Trek 400. No other reason.
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I used to care about the weight of my bike until I stepped on a scale myself. Shaving two or three lb off the bike doesn't really matter when I'm hauling all 220 lb of me on it.

I don't carry a tool kit anymore. Just a speed tire lever, one CO2 cartridge and dispenser, a tube, my ID and cash and a VISA card plus a mini pump. On really long rides, I bring two bottles; one with Heed and another just plain water.
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What is your definition of a "really long ride" ?
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Centuries and on are really long. Metrics are long too especially when it's hot out, no breeze and no canopy cover on the climbs. I've been on one of those where I used my water bottle to splash on the back of my neck.
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You do 100 miles on 2 bottles? That is pretty darn good. This time of year, I'm 1 bottle in 25-30. By April, 1 bottle in 20. By July, I'm lucky if I can do 1 bottle in 10. I think on the Katy Flatland Century I went through 12 bottles. It was 82 when we started, and maxed out near 100. And the Humidity in Houston is pretty darn high in July, especially with wind from the south!
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Heck no! I refill both bottles whenever I can. I'm no camel believe me plus I sweat like a pig. Luckily on those organized rides, they have pleny of water and gatorade.

Speaking of water, I did a metric a couple of years ago in the middle of August. The organizers where filling the coolers with water from a spigot and hose. Kinda turned me off but I needed h2o badly. I like the rides where they give away bottled water even if that bottled water came from a tap elsewhere. It's psychological.
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I used to care about the weight of my bike until I stepped on a scale myself. Shaving two or three lb off the bike doesn't really matter when I'm hauling all 220 lb of me on it.
Im there too, In college I had a heavy GT mountain bike but rode 2 - 4 hours each day. The bike and I together weighted 190lbs. Todays its more like 195lbs...but thats without the bike

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