Fuel commercial "Added Nitrogen"???

[Joe Ricard]

Fuel comercial I think Chevron advertised " and now with added nitrogen"

So not beig a Chemical engineer .... Howz that work? Doesn't nitrogen evaporate into a gas when not pressurized?

Nitrogen is inert as far as I know. so why add it to gas? If it was actually consumed in an engine the only thing I can think is it would lean out the Air fuel ratio.

Anyway what' up with this BS.

[legion]

Kind of like telling you that your pet food comes with "added sawdust".

[mca]

Good question. I was wondering about that commercial on my drive to work this morning.

[dhoward]

Girl Scout Cookies.
Now with more Girl Scouts!

[widgeon13]

Truth in advertising has been DEAD for a long time!

[nostatic]

My guess is that they are nitrogen containing additives that act like detergents. They aren't just bubbling N2 into their gas...

[widgeon13]

How did we live w/o this all these years!

Shell Launches New Nitrogen Enriched Gasolines
02/03/2009
Introducing a new molecule designed to seek and destroy engine gunk in both conventional and modern engines.
Houston – Today at Shell stations across the U.S., consumers will fill-up with a new product at the pumps. Shell is introducing the all-new Nitrogen Enriched Gasolines, containing a unique, patented cleaning system designed to seek and destroy engine “gunk” (carbon deposits) in all three grades of gasoline. The new Nitrogen Enriched cleaning system protects and cleans up gunky build-up on intake valves and fuel injectors left by lower quality gasolines.
Nitrogen is a key element of the active cleaning molecule in the new fuel, making it significantly more stable at higher temperatures common in modern engines, such as direct fuel-injection gasoline engines. The increased stability ensures that the molecule can work under much tougher engine conditions by resisting thermal breakdown better than conventional cleaning additives.
“At Shell, our ‘Passionate Experts’ are dedicated to helping motorists get the most out of every drop of gasoline,” said Jens Mueller-Belau, Fuels Portfolio and Category Manager North America, Shell Retail.. “With Nitrogen Enriched Gasolines, our scientists have increased the effectiveness of our cleaning additive, offering consumers our most advanced technology ever.”
In addition to developing the new fuel with the consumer in mind, Shell worked very closely with automotive manufacturers to gain insight into current and future engine technologies. These insights along with fuels technology leadership and a strong research and development program help Shell continually improve its products.
Nitrogen Enriched Gasolines were tested in laboratories, independent testing facilities, and on the road, accumulating more than a half-million miles in various vehicles and engines—including conventional, turbo-charged, and direct fuel-injection gasoline engines, hybrids, newer vehicles with low mileage, and older vehicles with high mileage.
Shell scientists also used innovative testing technologies such as dual fuel engines to conduct head-to-head comparisons with other lower quality gasolines. In these tests, split engines simultaneously run on different types of gasoline in order to collect data under the exact same conditions. The results of these head-to-head comparisons proved that the Shell Nitrogen Enriched Gasolines are more effective than lower quality gasolines in protecting against the build-up of harmful engine gunk.

“In today’s tough economy, American drivers are concerned about protecting their vehicle since it’s one of their largest investments,” said Mueller-Belau. “We want to help protect that investment. That’s why we want them to educate consumers that there is a difference in the gasoline they choose. Using lower quality gasolines can result in gunky build-up on critical engine parts, negatively impacting engine performance. Shell gasolines help drivers say ‘No’ to gunk.”
The Nitrogen Enriched formula is proven to prevent build-up of gunk more effectively than gasolines containing only the minimum amount of cleaning agents as required by the EPA.
The new cleaning system is certified to meet the TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline Standard – voluntary standards designated by some of the world’s top automakers (Audi, BMW, GM, Honda, Toyota, Volkswagen) to try to raise the bar on fuel quality beyond minimum government criteria. Industry research has proven that a clean engine results in better fuel efficiency, reduced emissions, and overall optimal vehicle performance.
In addition, Shell V-Power® premium gasoline provides maximum protection with the highest concentration of the Nitrogen Enriched cleaning system and more than five times the minimum amount of cleaning agents required by federal government standards. It seeks and destroys engine gunk even faster than regular Shell gasoline, providing maximum protection to help vehicles maintain peak performance.
Shell is supporting the launch of Nitrogen Enriched Gasolines with a national marketing campaign, including national TV, radio and online advertising, as well as point-of-purchase signage at Shell-branded stations nationwide. The new campaign builds-on the current “Passionate Experts” platform, focusing on the company’s commitment to fuel quality and passion for developing innovative new products.
“At Shell, we believe it’s important to educate consumers that all gasolines are not the same—high quality gasoline can make a difference in a vehicle,” said Karen Wildman, Shell U.S. brand and communications manager. “We’re dedicated to continuous product improvement and innovation, and to helping consumers get the most out of every drop.”
For additional information on Shell Nitrogen Enriched Gasolines, visit www.passionate-experts.shell.com.
Shell Oil Products US, a subsidiary of Shell Oil Company, is a leader in the refining, transportation and marketing of fuels, and has a network of more than 6,000 branded gasoline stations in the Western United States.
Shell Oil Company is a 50 percent owner of Motiva Enterprises LLC, along with Saudi Refining, Inc. Motiva Enterprises LLC refines and markets branded products through more than 8,200 branded stations in the Eastern and Southern United States. Shell Oil Company is an affiliate of the Shell Group [(NYSE:RDS.A) and (NYSE:RDS.B)]. For more information, please visit www.shell.com.

[red-beard]

So, it is an amine based deterergent

big deal

[widgeon13]

I don't believe a word of what they say and furthermore don't believe there is a difference in gasoline other than perhaps octane rating. Some expert will enlighten us on the truth. I have driven cars for close to 45 years, torn down engines and rarely (if ever) on my personally cared for equipment seen this build-up on parts unless the the engine has been pretty badly abused as far as regular maintenance.

Harmful engine gunk??? Perhaps if one never changes the oil or never drives more than 3 miles per trip.

This BS is comical, just a gimmick to have you pay more for gas.

I'm sure some expert chemist with experience in this field will contribute a counterpoint.

[Joe Ricard]

Well there ya go. It's a bunch of Hooey that give's these soms a *****es a reason to raise the price of gas.

I'll take my fermented rat piss cheap gas thank you very much.

[legion]

I was under the impression that the ethanol that is put in gasoline is a far more powerful solvent than anything that came before. From what I gather varnish will no longer develop in gas tanks or build up in fuel lines with ethanol in gas.

Meaning...the ethanol will be a far more powerful cleaning agent than this stuff.

[sammyg2]

My guess is that their marketing department is better than their fuel additive.

[nostatic]

Originally Posted by legion

I was under the impression that the ethanol that is put in gasoline is a far more powerful solvent than anything that came before. From what I gather varnish will no longer develop in gas tanks or build up in fuel lines with ethanol in gas.

Meaning...the ethanol will be a far more powerful cleaning agent than this stuff.

Ethanol won't stick around at high temps. What they're likely talking about is a nitrogen compound that will tie up carbon to prevent it from depositing on the metal. Not sure if it is an amine, amide, heterocycle, etc. I never was an industrial chemist...

[BRPORSCHE]

hmmm interesting. Especially since a brand new shell station opened right down the street from me. They are really pushing this new nitrogen enriched gasoline.

I'll have to ask my dad about it.

[sammyg2]

Remember when their gasoline was improving mileage?
Seems like they come out with a new add and claims every couple of years.

[Les Paul]

I've worked at a chemical plant for 29 years. We use nitrogen to purge lines, tanks, anything that needs to get lel's out. It is an inert gas. I don't see how it can be good. Voodoo BS.

[nostatic]

Originally Posted by Les Paul

I've worked at a chemical plant for 29 years. We use nitrogen to purge lines, tanks, anything that needs to get lel's out. It is an inert gas. I don't see how it can be good. Voodoo BS.

As I said above, I doubt they are bubbling N2 into the gas. Likely some nitrogen-containing organic compound additive that functions as a detergent.

[Bill Douglas]

I think it means someone peed in the fuel tank.

[nostatic]

well, urea is a nitrogen compound

[Bill Douglas]

Yes indeed, urine is full of the stuff.