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t951 03-24-2009 06:15 PM

Mt Dora has a good one. Heathrow (which part of Lake Mary) is the ritzy part of town and there are a couple of those. And once a month there is an exotic gathering that is fun.

When I was travelling in south Florida was the only time. In Lake Mary you are more likely to get asked for Grey Poupon than anything else.

red-beard 03-24-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 4565630)
Its called the "Make My Day Law" here in OK. Not sure of the exact wording but it basically says if you are in clear and present danger you are in the clear to shoot.

It is only called that by the anti-gunners.

strupgolf 03-24-2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DasBoot (Post 4565659)
No open carry in FL. If you print or expose it, you can lose your permit and be prosecuted.

I'm not getting this: If you "print or expose it", what does that mean? Print what?

DasBoot 03-24-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by strupgolf (Post 4565708)
I'm not getting this: If you "print or expose it", what does that mean? Print what?

Print...short for "imprint". If the weapon outline shows through your clothing to where it is recognizable as a weapon, you can be charged with exposing a weapon and/or lose your permit.

billyboy 03-24-2009 06:39 PM

Show on National Geo channel right now about concealed carry, somewhat slanted of course.:rolleyes:

DasBoot 03-24-2009 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by billyboy (Post 4565745)
Show on National Geo channel right now about concealed carry, somewhat slanted of course.:rolleyes:

Naturally. I open-carried last week at the rodeo (lots of Dems/Libs here) and received the stink-eye from more than a few of the Birkenstock type. No-one spoke out, though.

t951 03-24-2009 06:52 PM

When I went to the class to carry I thought it would be a joke, but I actually learned stuff.

It's worth the 117.50 it cost me (the permit).

Plus, I don't have to wait when I purchase.

I LOVE FLORIDA! I moved here from the state of Mass (which almost a communist state!).

DasBoot 03-24-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by t951 (Post 4565767)
Plus, I don't have to wait when I purchase.

That's the best benefit. Walk in to a gun store/pawn shop/gun show, lay your money (and CCW) down and walk out with a new toy.

Rick Lee 03-24-2009 08:44 PM

AZ is even better. My CCW class was $30 and for an extra $5, the instructor, who's also a cop, personally handed in my fingerprint card. He took our prints at his house. Got my permit in two weeks. Same instructor is also UT-certified and got me checked out at his house in under two hours a few mos later. My UT permit is the best one. I open carry when on the bike, since it'd be too hard to draw from concealment in full gear. And I love letting the cars with CA plates see me pass them with a .45 on my right hip. The local BMW bike dealership is in between two major gun stores, so you always see people open carrying while test riding bikes there.

DasBoot 03-24-2009 09:19 PM

Whatza "UT" permit?

dd74 03-24-2009 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DasBoot (Post 4565488)
FL passed the "Castle Doctrine" last year and one of the stipulations exempts a CCW holder from criminal AND civil prosecution if the shooting is determined "good" by the DA.

I like this doctrine. And I live in Cali. Plus, I'm not even a gun person.

Rick Lee 03-24-2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DasBoot (Post 4566029)
Whatza "UT" permit?

"Oh, excuse me your honor. The yoooouuuuttthhheeesss."

Utah has the best permit. Get it while you still can. They won't be giving them to non-residents forever.

nynor 03-24-2009 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DasBoot (Post 4566029)
Whatza "UT" permit?

UTah. accepted in SEVERAL states.

DasBoot 03-24-2009 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4566052)
Utah has the best permit. Get it while you still can. They won't be giving them to non-residents forever.

Ah-ha. Utah.

But what is the benefit if you're in AZ? You have to follow the laws of the host state.

FL permits are valid in AL, AK, AZ, AR, CO, DE, GA, ID, IN, KY, LA, MI, MS, MO, MT, NH, NM, NC, ND, OH, OK, PA, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT, VA & WY.

Jim Bremner 03-24-2009 09:46 PM

A drivers license is good in all states.

A marriage license is good in all states....why the heck a ccw license isn't!

California needs to pull it's head out! There is zero reason not to allow a person in good standing not to be able to protect themselves.

Porsche-O-Phile 03-24-2009 09:49 PM

If that guy has a medical bills fund I want to contribute to it. Hell, if someone can find out for certain what caliber he used, I'll buy him a new box of bullets too to replace the ones he lost takin' out the trash.

DasBoot 03-24-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bremner (Post 4566075)
California needs to pull it's head out! There is zero reason not to allow a person in good standing not to be able to protect themselves.

But...but...there'll be utter chaos! Gunfights in the streets! People shooting each other while standing in line @ McDonalds or driving in traffic!

Well, that's what they said would happen here in 1987 when the FL legislature opened the floodgates.

Umm...err...come to think of it, Calif. always had gunfights in the streets, shootings @ McDonalds and shootings in traffic...

Nevermind. :rolleyes:

DasBoot 03-24-2009 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 4566076)
If that guy has a medical bills fund I want to contribute to it. Hell, if someone can find out for certain what caliber he used, I'll buy him a new box of bullets too to replace the ones he lost takin' out the trash.

I checked the Miami City police website, but they haven't updated their press releases since Jul. of last year.

Perhaps the news will release more details as they become available.

Luckily, all Burger Kings here have security cameras, so we'll see the footage within a few days.

And, as is typical with "victims" of crimes committed in places of business, the shooter (good guy) will most likely file suit against Burger King for "failing to provide a safe environment". I'm sure they have bucket-loads of insurance for this kind of thing.

Rick Lee 03-24-2009 10:11 PM

UT is the most widely recognized CCW that's also accepted in NV. AZ permits are good just about everywhere that has CCW except NV and SC. Now I'm good to go in every shall-issue state. Since I make it to NV a few times a year and UT at least once a year, a UT permit is very good for me. NV has very weird gun laws, mandatory handgun registration in Clarke County, state pre-emption law has no force in cities below a certain population size, can only carry what's listed on your CCW, etc. A UT permit for a non-NV resident gets me out of all that nonsense.

DasBoot 03-24-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4566094)
A UT permit for a non-NV resident gets me out of all that nonsense.

OK, got it. Does one have to travel to UT for the permit? Wouldn't you need a UT driver's license to show a LEO if asked? My FL CCW is only valid when accompanied by a FL D/L.

Edit: Nevermind. I was looking at an old list (2006). Updated list shows I'm good in NV & UT with my FL permit...

http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USReciprocity.pdf


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