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CJFusco 03-28-2009 07:50 AM

Some bold LOST predictions
 
1) Sayid killed "young Ben" - or the Oceanic Six stop "the Purge" from happening - and created an alternate timeline.
When the Ajira flight crashes on the "little island" in 2007, Frank and his co-pilot try to radio for help, but they hear "the Numbers" being broadcast instead... but wait, we know that Danielle Rousseau replaced "the Numbers" broadcast with her own sometime in the early 1980s. Hmm. Also, when Sun goes back to the DHARMA camp, it still has the DHARMA signs up all over the place, and looks disused. As we know the Others took down all the DHARMA stuff when they moved in after "the Purge". It's also possible that Daniel Farraday is somehow connected to this alternate timeline's creation... after all, where the cluck is he?

2) "The Incident" has something to do with the Swan Station/the Button, the hydrogen bomb, AND why women can't give birth on the Island.
Women can give birth without a problem in 1977 - the year that the Swan Station is built - but not in 2004? And the Others are clueless as to why? This leads me to believe that the DHARMA Initiative did something bad that connects all three. Also connected is probably the "four-toed statue," which is very likely Tawaret, the Egyptian goddess of Fertility.

3) Pushing "the Button" is what keeps women from giving birth on the Island.
See above. Plus, in Season Two, Walt appeared to Shannon; his "backwards speech" said, "don't push the button, the button is bad." Hmm.

4) Jack will die in the last episode of Season Six.
It only makes sense, from a literary perspective. The show began with a close up of Jack's eye as he woke up after the crash of flight 815 - a symbolic birth. It makes perfect sense that the show's last episode will end with his death. My prediction is that Jack must die so that Sawyer and Kate can live. This also connects to my theory that Jack Shephard, John Locke, and James "Sawyer" Ford/LeFleur are meant to represent the Holy Trinity; after all, they're all "J" names (Jehovah/Jesus), they all have daddy issues, and they're all leaders - albeit of the three different groups on the Island (the Survivors, the Others, and the DHARMA Initiative, respectively). Jack's last name is even Shephard, for J's sake! And his father's name is Christian.

5) Aaron is Jacob.
Following the above prediction, it really looks like Christian Shephard, the father of Jack and Claire, is pulling some strings. If Jack does die in the final episode, this would liken Christian to Abraham, whom God commanded must sacrifice his son (in this case, Jack). Abraham's grandson is Jacob; Christian's grandson is Aaron.

Talk amongst yourselves. SmileWavy

CJFusco 03-28-2009 11:17 PM

The more I think about it, the more I think that the Oceanic Six are the ones who create an alternate timeline by averting "the Purge"

Pazuzu 03-29-2009 08:23 AM

The purge will still happen, Ben isn't dead. The system will course correct itself.
1) Ben is still alive, and the Others will save him (I've heard the idea that Jack will, since he does in the future, but I think that's cheesy). I also think that the bullet will be the cause of Ben's spinal tumor ;)
2) The Others clearly (and honestly) state that they have no clue who Sayid is, so Ben assumes it was a Dharma plot, and begins his hate for the Dharma people (right now, he just hates his dad). This will eventually be the catalyst for the Purge.
3) One of the Losties will be the cause of the Incident, which creates the button, and the electromagnetic pulse that brings them to the Island in the first place.

Basically, the Losties in 1977 will inadvertently and quietly begin all of the events that eventually cause them to crash there, hear the recording, meet who they meet, do what they do, etc. They start the timelines that end in 2004-2007, which they're tied into.

Also, right about now (in 1977), the construction crew is unearthing the Donkey Wheel for the first time. We know that Faraday was there when it happened. Sawyer, Faraday, Miles and Juliet all know where it is, and what it does. They will use it (probably mid-Season 6) to push themselves forward to 2007, to be reacquainted with Sun, Ben and Locke. I wouldn't be surprised if them using it is the cause for the Incident ;)

Also, as for the statue. I truely believe it is just put in there for fun, so the writers can mindf$$k the viewers. It has no purpose beyond that, and the face on it is no one that we know. We'll see it one more time in some format, right before the show ends. I'll make a guess that it will be a painting, pencil sketch, carving, something like that on the shelf in the office of the person who is sitting on the mainland, who greets everyone the last time when they get off the Island on the very last show.

Put yer money down now, I have Vegas working the odds for my claim :D

CJFusco 03-29-2009 12:30 PM

The statue IS Tawarek, the Egyptian god of fertility. That much is very clear - Tawarek is one of the only Egyptian gods to carry two ankhs instead of one ankh and a scepter.

ramonesfreak 03-29-2009 04:33 PM

i dont think ben is dead. there is no way syid would shoot and just run away without checking ben's pulse. there is a reason he didnt...its because ben is alive.

nynor 03-29-2009 06:52 PM

maybe sayid didn't shoot to kill ben. maybe wing him so that he wouldn't be suspected in letting sayid get away.

afterburn 549 03-29-2009 07:08 PM

I have never been able to understand the show....................

CJFusco 03-30-2009 02:24 AM

Have you tried turning the volume up? Is the television on the correct channel? Plugged in?

slakjaw 03-30-2009 04:39 AM

Now they have brought the "Grandfather paradox" into this by killing the young Ben Linus.

slakjaw 03-30-2009 04:42 AM

Ben looked pretty dead to me.

ramonesfreak 03-30-2009 05:30 AM

ill bet you five dollars that next episode we see someone coming along who finds ben, checks him, notices he is barely alive, and then gets him to hospital

am i missing something here ? wouldnt it be impossible for the older ben to have existed at all if he had been killed by sayid?

im starting to think im too dumb for this show

CJFusco 03-30-2009 12:41 PM

I just thought of something.

Back in season 3, we learn of Ben and Juliette's first meeting. He says something like, "it's amazing; you look exactly like her." We never, I think, learn who "she" was that Juliette reminded Ben.

An idea: what if Juliette saves Ben from dying, and when he meets a slightly younger Juliet again later in life, she reminds him of, well, her?

VaSteve 03-30-2009 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynor (Post 4575652)
maybe sayid didn't shoot to kill ben. maybe wing him so that he wouldn't be suspected in letting sayid get away.

12 year old Ben is dead so that 40 something Ben can come over from the other island.

nynor 03-30-2009 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaSteve (Post 4577502)
12 year old Ben is dead so that 40 something Ben can come over from the other island.

that is an interesting idea.

doesn't killing 12 year old ben obviate 40 year old ben?

CJFusco 03-30-2009 05:40 PM

^ Not if there is an alternative timeline... which there almost certainly is, considering that "the Numbers" were being broadcast over the radio, and the DHARMA signs were all over what should have been the Others' village.

ramonesfreak 03-30-2009 05:40 PM

i dont think there would be a 40 year old ben if young ben was killed but this time jumping has got my brain all screwed up

CJFusco 03-30-2009 05:41 PM

... but I don't think that young Ben is dead at this point.

VaSteve 03-30-2009 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynor (Post 4577617)
that is an interesting idea.

doesn't killing 12 year old ben obviate 40 year old ben?

I agree, but...Didn't we see a case a couple of weeks ago (during all the jumping) where someone existed and the same person was alive 50 feet away?

nynor 03-30-2009 06:16 PM

but he couldn't interact with anyone that would alter the future. ok, my head officially hurts.

Pazuzu 03-31-2009 06:23 AM

I think you're all taking a few scene cues and a driving need to find complexity in the story to create alternative timelines. Everyone assumes that the writers are making things more and more convoluted, when it seems to me that they are making things more and more clarified.

Dharma sign over the building? Big deal, numerous explanations. Heck, Christian could have been sprucing the place up (I don't think he likes the Others too much...).
Numbers over the radio? You heard 2 numbers spoken over static, that's it. A pattern is not made by 2 numbers, especially when it involves the Numbers.
Statue happens to look like some Egyptian Goddess of fertility? OK, the writers decided they wanted an Egyptian statue (they look cool). The want a gentle one (hard to do...). Fertility? WooHoo! Jackpot! Oh...she has 4 toes? That'll drive those fanboys batty...Don't take it as anything more than that...the Island is not from ancient Egypt, now was it populated by them. It was quite clearly populated by Giant 4-Toed Aliens that were honored as Gods around the planet, with their Pyramids and Ruins. ;)

Clear your mind of such things, get back to the story, and you'll see that it actually is driving towards a conclusion. The writers have been hassled to no end about making things weird, so weird stuff is being tossed in to trip you up, just as it's being tossed in front of the Losties to trip up their ultimate goal.

Jacob/Christian are trying to get the timeline cleaned up, and back on track, because they don't really like this whole flashing thing...it's gotta be bad for their home. The Island is going to start healing itself really quick like, it's done healing other people.


We're also going to see inside the Temple very soon...I predict the last day of the season. Walt has to come back for that too (he's been pivotal in every season finale).

Those are MY bold predictions :D


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