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onewhippedpuppy 04-01-2009 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 4580394)
Has the world ended? Have we been thrown back into the stone age?

Hello, is there anybody out there?

My laptop ate my youngest child.

jyl 04-01-2009 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 4580524)
Umm...2 fingers of scotch?

I poured 2 fingers of scotch into the DVD slot of my iMac and now it won't start. You owe me.

slakjaw 04-01-2009 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 4580526)
Really? Can you point to the Mac viruses seen in the wild? I'd be interested to read about them...I don't follow things as closely as I used to.

No because I don't use a mac. I am sure google would be a better source

targa911S 04-01-2009 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 4580517)
What is the best antivirus app for Mac OS X?

Uhhh owning it.

stomachmonkey 04-01-2009 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by slakjaw (Post 4580402)
There are more and more worms and viruses coming out for mac's. I don't think you guys are immune anymore.

No operating system is immune to viruses, worms, trojans.

There are several differences between Windows and .nix systems.

1st is the approach to security. Windows has been notorious for shipping with open ports and services that the general consumer will never need. Up to at least XP it was possible to set up a new machine with a superuser, basically root account, that has no password.

Software has the ability to install without any notification to the user or any authentication.

Windows, Word, Excell, Exchange, IE share far too much base code. A vulnerability in one of them can allow access to all.

OS X ships with root disabled and enabling it takes multiple deliberate steps. It is not possible to create a user account without a password. Software installs all prompt authentication. Unless you have direct physical access to the machine getting malicious code installed is extremely difficult. Apple embrace the standard Firewall protocol, anything that is not explicitly allowed is denied.

The architecture of the OS, while not immune to being infected, makes it extremely difficult for an infection to spread to the rest of the OS much less another machine.

And OS X is in part Open Source. There are 100x's as many people looking for and shutting down vulnerabilities then there are people trying to create an exploit.

Think of it like illegal immigration, it will always happen, how often it happens is a direct result of your commitment to stopping it. Strong border feces, increased number of agents, multiple checkpoints etc...

nostatic 04-01-2009 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by slakjaw (Post 4580539)
No because I don't use a mac. I am sure google would be a better source

So in other words, you made a statement based on...a feeling?

Maybe we should move this to PARF - Mac is a religion after all :p

stomachmonkey 04-01-2009 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 4580517)
What is the best antivirus app for Mac OS X?

Anti virus apps for OS X are a generally bad idea.

Every offering from Symantec, McAfee and the smaller guys have created more problems related to slow systems, instability etc... than the risk warrants.

The least problematic so far has been ClamAV (free) although performance hits have been reported.

The Symantec and McAfee solutions have in the past actually INCREASED the risk to OS X users.

techweenie 04-01-2009 08:39 AM

No viruses in the wild for OSX, sorry, haters.

Meantime, if you're a Windows user infected with Conficker, or want to know if you are, go here:

http://www.confickerator.com/

slakjaw 04-01-2009 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 4580590)
So in other words, you made a statement based on...a feeling?

Maybe we should move this to PARF - Mac is a religion after all :p

I read about it in a tech journal dude. Im sorry for repeating it.

gprsh924 04-01-2009 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by slakjaw (Post 4580827)
I read about it in a tech journal dude. Im sorry for repeating it.

In your original post perhaps you should have said "I read in a tech journal that more and more viruses are coming out for Macs" as opposed to simply stating it as a fact.

stomachmonkey 04-01-2009 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by slakjaw (Post 4580827)
I read about it in a tech journal dude. Im sorry for repeating it.

The source of those statements in tech articles is usually traced back to unbiased industry experts like Symantec.

onewhippedpuppy 04-01-2009 09:28 AM

It would be very amusing if it was all an April fool's joke.

techweenie 04-01-2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 4580866)
It would be very amusing if it was all an April fool's joke.

It's suspected that the 'April 1' reference found in the code is a straw man. Some feel the worm will start to activate in the next couple of weeks, when vigilance drops off.

Most malware now is created with commercial reward as the intent, not destruction.

slakjaw 04-01-2009 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by gprsh924 (Post 4580847)
In your original post perhaps you should have said "I read in a tech journal that more and more viruses are coming out for Macs" as opposed to simply stating it as a fact.

Probably should have done that.

m21sniper 04-01-2009 10:19 AM

Apr 1 was only "phase 1" of the bug, as i read the other day.

The "sky is falling" part has not happened yet.

On my puter virus thread there are links to several free programs that will remove the conficker bug.

cgarr 04-01-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by techweenie (Post 4580766)
No viruses in the wild for OSX, sorry, haters.

Meantime, if you're a Windows user infected with Conficker, or want to know if you are, go here:

http://www.confickerator.com/

OK, for the last two hours I have been rebooting per the instructions and still dont see the circle!

techweenie 04-01-2009 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cgarr (Post 4580997)
OK, for the last two hours I have been rebooting per the instructions and still dont see the circle!

There is one other way to detect and remove it, described in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

futuresoptions 04-01-2009 02:51 PM

All I know is that it was a nasty bug, am still recovering my pc from it right now.... got in undetected, I was using CA Security Suite, hijack this, spyware guard and spyware blaster.... will keep my cpu on automatic update from now on....

p.s. my last update was five days before infection..

imcarthur 04-01-2009 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by techweenie (Post 4581545)
There is one other way to detect and remove it, described in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

So after I smashed the speakers & the monitor & ripped all of the wires off the back of my computer that means that the virus is gone?

Ian

techweenie 04-01-2009 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by imcarthur (Post 4581563)
So after I smashed the speakers & the monitor & ripped all of the wires off the back of my computer that means that the virus is gone?

Ian

I think you managed to de-rick it, at least.


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