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onewhippedpuppy 04-10-2009 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Moses (Post 4598819)
Why not just put them all in the water? A big wake froam a destroyer escort would do it. A depth charge would do it. Put them in the water then haul their soggy asses out. It's hard to look real menacing while treading water.

I would guess that it's also pretty difficult to shoot any sort of weapon while trying to remain afloat. Not a bad idea.

Drdogface 04-10-2009 09:48 AM

Those were my thoughts as well...however you do it...put them in the water. I had thought a SEAL team could accomplish that and cause mass confusion at the same time not allowing the scums to use any weapons. I just wrote an email to a close friend who is retired SEAL. We'll see what he has to offer...

Moses 04-10-2009 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 4598823)
I would guess that it's also pretty difficult to shoot any sort of weapon while trying to remain afloat. Not a bad idea.

I'm just thinking that the "negotiations" would be more expeditious with the pirates treading water.

jyl 04-10-2009 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4598806)
I believe that's already the rule they use in training hostage negotiators.

Hmm, then what is there for the hostage negotiators to do?

Tidybuoy 04-10-2009 11:18 AM

How bout a big magnifying glass hovering over their heads from a helecopter - kind of like I may have done with ants as a little kid. Either that or lets just give them the money and get the captain back........10 minutes later.....kaboom!

Rikao4 04-10-2009 11:22 AM

asking 2 million for the Captain...
meanwhile the French rescued some folks of a Yacht taken a few weeks ago..
sadly ..one hostage died during the mission...

Rika

JeremyD 04-10-2009 11:30 AM

My guess is no seal team in the region last night. Tonight a seal team reaches into their bag of tricks and "immobilizes" that pirate crew.

DavidI 04-10-2009 11:36 AM

We should never negotiate! Send in some SEALS to solve the problem. When I was in the Marine Corps, we did several exercises where we took the Captain of nval ships. This was before 9-11, and I am sure it would be more difficult now. I hope every one of the pirates is killes to send a definitive message, David

red-beard 04-10-2009 11:38 AM

I would give them $10M in North Korean fake currency, with "This is Fake" written in UV ink.

Heel n Toe 04-10-2009 11:46 AM

Mystery solved on how they got the captain back in the lifeboat...

...the pirate leader had been in direct contact with the lifeboat via a satellite phone but lost contact after Phillips' captors threw the phone—and a two-way radio dropped to them by the U.S. Navy—into the ocean, fearing the Americans were somehow using the equipment to give instructions to the captain. They acted after Phillips' failed effort to escape.

Around midnight local time, Phillips jumped off the lifeboat and began swimming, according to Defense Department officials speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to talk about the sensitive, unfolding operations.


One of the pirates then fired an automatic weapon, the officials said, although it was not clear if the shots were fired at Phillips or into the air, and he returned to the lifeboat.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97FNAS80&show_article=1

scottmandue 04-10-2009 11:56 AM

Why all this talk of seals... I say we send in friggin sharks with friggin lasers on their heads!

Rick Lee 04-10-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 4598849)
Hmm, then what is there for the hostage negotiators to do?

Give the hostage takers false hope and stall for time while tactical units get ready to storm the place. That's what it usually comes down to.

varmint 04-10-2009 12:20 PM

i would give anything to listen to the tape of a psychiatrist trying to negotiate with a pirate.

onewhippedpuppy 04-10-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 4599128)
i would give anything to listen to the tape of a psychiatrist trying to negotiate with a pirate.

How do you reason with "yarrrrr"?:cool:

jyl 04-10-2009 01:39 PM

And while the captain was in the water, and the pirates were on the boat with no hostage, the Navy was doing - what? Watching with great interest?

Edit: ok, I see the article says the Bainbridge is staying several hundred yards away from the lifeboat, to stay out of the pirates range of fire. Somehow this is not making sense.


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Mystery solved on how they got the captain back in the lifeboat...<br>
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<b>...the pirate leader had been in direct contact with the lifeboat via a satellite phone but lost contact after Phillips' captors threw the phone—and a two-way radio dropped to them by the U.S. Navy—into the ocean, fearing the Americans were somehow using the equipment to give instructions to the captain. They acted after Phillips' failed effort to escape. <br>
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Around midnight local time, Phillips jumped off the lifeboat and began swimming, according to Defense Department officials speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to talk about the sensitive, unfolding operations. </b><br>
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<b><font color="Red">One of the pirates then fired an automatic weapon, the officials said, although it was not clear if the shots were fired at Phillips or into the air, and he returned to the lifeboat. </font></b><br>
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<a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97FNAS80&amp;show_article=1" target="_blank">http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1</a>

trekkor 04-10-2009 02:04 PM

I heard the captain went in the water at midnight local time and the Navy ship may have been up to a mile away. When the pirates started firing machine guns he got back in the lifeboat.


KT

varmint 04-10-2009 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 4599171)
How do you reason with "yarrrrr"?:cool:





psychiatrist, "were you an only child?"

pirate "aaaarg".

psychiatrist, "tell me about your mother".

pirate, "aaaarg".

psychiatrist, "i can't help but feel you take hostages out of a desire to be close to someone."

pirate, "aaaarg".

psychiatrist, "do you need a hug?"

pirate, "aaaaarg?".

psychiatrist, "here, let me hug you."

pirate shoots psychiatrist.

psychiatrist "ow, wtf?"

pirate "aaaarg".

jyl 04-10-2009 03:16 PM

I guess, when I read that the US Navy has the lifeboat "surrounded" with a destroyer, a frigate, helicopters, an Orion surveillance plane, drones, and possibly some other ship (reports vary) and FBI teams have been flown to the scene, I sort of visualize a situation where, if the captain managed to dive overboard and separate himself from the lifeboat by swimming even a short distance, the Navy could take advantage of the break. I didn't realize the Navy was sitting a mile away exercising their patience.

KarlCarrera 04-10-2009 07:47 PM

Now I haven't seen the news tonight so please bear this in mind.

We have the Captain of a U.S. flagged ship in a lifeboat with the terrorists, we have American Naval vessels reasonably close, we have highly trained servicemen available, they HAVE been watching every muscle reflex on this lifeboat, laser sights, and rangefinders, the will, the knowledge, and the ability.........who's making the decisions?

My bet is the Commander in Chief......or maybe some other highly qualified politician

Karl
88 Targa

pwd72s 04-10-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KarlCarrera (Post 4599923)
Now I haven't seen the news tonight so please bear this in mind.

We have the Captain of a U.S. flagged ship in a lifeboat with the terrorists, we have American Naval vessels reasonably close, we have highly trained servicemen available, they HAVE been watching every muscle reflex on this lifeboat, laser sights, and rangefinders, the will, the knowledge, and the ability.........who's making the decisions?

My bet is the Commander in Chief......or maybe some other highly qualified politician

Karl
88 Targa

I'm afraid (for the Captain) that you just nailed it...:(


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