Just my .02 but I think Tabs hit the nail on the head with post #2 in this thread.

Things were slightly different from a medical perspective in 1918.
While we're all agog with the "Media Flu", what should we be paying attention to?

my wife's mother reports that they have had about 50 cases in Conroe TX, I just mailed her some masks, as they are sold out locally.

Uhh the CDC says only 6 confirmed cases in all of Tejas.

The coverup begins!

I started thinking about recent events, and I can't help but wonder. Clinton meets with Mexican officials to talk about the drug cartel, ok. I put on my tin foil hat and says, well I wonder when this swine stuff started surfacing? Shortly thereafter, right? Let me see, Mexico announces there is a problem. US citizens start to panic, and it plays right into the hands of those who are running our country, whose goal might I add, is to provide national health care, or insurance, or some affordable package that you and I will pay for. Smells funny to me.

We survived the bird flu.......although it did influence the price of eggs! :)

Now the swine flu!......that wont be good for the price of bacon!

I think i can live through this one also.......but when the beer flu strikes, i'm going down for the count.

that may be, Janet Neopolitano also says the border between US and Mexico is secure, so we don't neet to worry about this whole deal too

First US death, in TX.

Do you own Alcoa stock?

No, but I have hunted pigs at their plant in Rockdale, Texas.:D

I don't know about you, but I think it's time to panic.:rolleyes:

Until this gets more dangerous than driving my car, it's not an issue to me.

But you drive a Cruiser, driving will never be dangerous.;)

I am thinking of buying Tyson and Smithfield. Last I heard they were down huge.

Nope, neither is down much on this.

So
WTF can you actually do to prevent getting it? I wash my hands a lot and always before eating. I told my girlfriend to pick up some ibuprofen and tylenol on the way home. We actually have a box of 3m 8210s N95 masks we never used from when we renovated a rental property. Hand sanitizer? Mini 14 and ammo?

I had influenza in january and for 2 days I was sicker than I'd ever been in my life. 103+ fever etc. I really, really don't want the gd swine flu.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090429/ap_on_he_me/swine_flu_world

1st US death.

Local L.A. news suggests the swine flu started at a U.S.-owned pig farm in Mexico.

This report seems to collaborate with the local news.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090429.wflumexico29art2245/BNStory/International/home

And supposedly this little fellow is patient #1:
http://images.theglobeandmail.com/ar...uboy600big.jpg

Just to keep things in perspective, over 36,000 people die every year in the US from symptoms related to the REGULAR flu.

Obviously we don't want to add to that number, but if the swine flu causes a few hundred deaths it will be tragic but only a drop in the bucket when compared to the typical flu strains.

Only for the other guy.:cool:

Apparently a Mexican National visiting the US.

Kid was already sick with the flu when he came to Houston from Mexico.

Came for treatment.

Hard to call it the first US flu death...

First cases in New England just confirmed... in my town. Great.

http://www.boston.com/news/health/blog/2009/04/lowell_children.html

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Am I mising something here ??? 10 to 20 dead and this much of a knee jerk reation (media and the rest)
More people die in car wrecks ea day..whats the deal here ?

People are illogical sissies, the media are unethical morons who thrive on fear mongering. That pretty much sums it up.

Car accidents are a common and well-understood risk. There is nothing to sensationalize there.

A new disease is scary and its risk is hard to understand quickly.

because it's a new strain with combined elements that form a high potential of a massive pandemic
one that would carry a death rate of 10x what normal yearly flu carries...And it's more effective at killing young people because of the way it works...

so you got :
- Human to Human infections
- it's a mix of avian, swine and human flu
- potential to change very fast ( like becoming resistent to Tamifly or Relenza)
- potential for a 5% mortality of those infected
- It affects mainly younger people
- nature's #1 job is balancing things out, right now, we have upset the balance, so it's to be expected that nature will try it's best to fix it, us that is.

You say knee jerk reaction now, but if there was no reaction... and everybody just ignored the threat,
then we might very well have woken up one day with the 1918 flu pandemic,
times 10, more people on the planet, more and bigger cities, more and faster travel....

Should we panic right now? no.
Should we be paying attention? Hell yes.

The wiki page shows the infections and deaths and is updated regulary..

If you consider that last friday, there was nothing known to us.

And now this thing is updated... daily... with numbers that go up each day...
And that these things spread exponentially... it doesn't take a wild imagination


Spain 3 days ago, 1st suspected infection... now, 10 confirmed
US, 3 days ago..5 =10 ... now 93 confirmed
Mexico... up in the thousands...

You have to keep in mind, that these things don't start off fast.. but as they go along, it spreads exponentially...

Mexico : began last month, a lot of nothing for a while, then it went up like crazy in no time..

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tion-graph.png

You have to take that flat line , and extrapolate it to each possible new area of infection... If that graph is representative for what is going to happen, then You can expect to see the toll rise in each of the countries..

The only thing the CDC knows 100% sure, is that they do not know where 100% of all infected people are... They have reports of people who only had a mild reaction to it... but were still infectious... So carriers may not even know they have it and spread it unknowingly...

All this time, the virus can spread, and at any given time, it may devellop into a fully resistent strain...

Posting the swine flu toll since we're in the midst of the Wuhan flu crisis.

The former killed a lot more young folks and spared the elderly in relative terms.

I posted in this thread on 4-26-09. Earlier that month I was sick as hell, a memorable sickness. Only reason I remember the date is because we did a family road trip to St Petersburg FL, ALMS race weekend. Now I wonder if that's what I had. Didn't occur to me at the time.

Amen

I was right after all.

NO YOU ARE NOT Tabs

you said 180 million will succumb to it !
It's not even 180k at this point !!!


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