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So all this hoopla about bird flu the past years... only to get waxed by swine flu?
Anybody taking bets on this thing?

If this gets away from them it will be BAD...The CDC has just been waiting for another epidemic similar to the 1918 outbreak of influenza where 60M people died. The world population has trebled since then so the numbers might very well be 180M people will subcumb.

Several years ago I bought a package of surgical masks and a bottle of waterless hand disfectant. Just as a precaution, just you wait if it hits there will be a run on the stuff.

Modern Medicine is really powerless to stop this kind of thing, it is only our arrogance that makes us think we can.

buy stock in batesville caskets ?

Why they are going to burn the bodies...buy stock in crematoriums...

No links? Is there some new threat?

Or are we just worrying about a random topic today?

Nope they have bodies in Mexico City and some cases in NYC...with the mobility of people today this flu can circle the globe in days. This was not true in 1918 or in previous pandemics.

http://news.google.ca/news?pz=1&ned=ca&hl=en&topic=h&ncl=1338523499&cf=a ll&scoring=n

7 cases in California, in San Diego and Imperial counties (ie bordering Mexico). Perhaps this will be a primer to shut down the border.

No fatalities in the US cases. Evidently the ones in Mexico City killed young healthy adults. Evidently the strain causes the immune system to over react, so those who are healthy actually get much sicker as a result of antibody over production (though I'm not an MD, nor do I play one on tv).

An epidemic that kills ~100 million people worldwide today would be an extremely minor blip on the (over) population boom going on right now. Would not make a dent. We need serious population control. Please do not take this to mean that I want some plague to happen, my point is that there would be no upside to it at all.

Remember that this is a GERMAN car forum....

They make those US sold German Vw's in Mexico.

If it's for desease control they will burn bodies in dedicated incinerators, not in regular crematoria.
The likes they use now to dispose of infected lifestock when they have bird flu, bluetong infections in sheep, mad cows and stuff like that...

CDC says it has all the makings of the next great pandemic.

Too many people.

Thin the herd.

Don't fuch with Mother Nature.

well, as usual my timing is impeccable!
Guess I'll cancel next week's trip to Cabo San Lucas / La Paz.

My biggest fear is not being allowed back into my country, or quarantined upon my return.
Plus, my mother is something of a hypochondriac, and would have a (legitimate) stroke if she knew I was heading down there right now.



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stupid swine flu

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Hmm should I be worried about going to San anton in about a month?

I'm on a plane to ATL-FAY tomorrow. Super. Better than Mexico City though...

I remember flying to Tokyo in '03 during SARS. It was freaky...

you just need to wear the right headgear Todd !

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A little thinning of the herd might help the unemployment numbers.

As long as you're not one of the ones that gets thinned, correct?

I'll be ok as long as I drink my own urine...

If we could just turn the tables a little and say THIS country is having the pandemic, maybe it would keep all the "illegals" home, in Mexico. THAT might help the unemployment problem. :rolleyes:

At this time you could offer me a free Mexican vacation and $20,000 spending money, and I'd turn it down.

Quite the opposite. If this gets bad enough in Mexico, I have no doubt we'll start some sort of special refugee program to let them come here en masse.

xkcd is so awesome.

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When do the zombies come?

one thing for sure... i am throwing politeness out the window if i see someone not washing hands after the toilet visit. if they dont wash there, they never do.

and if i see someone sneezing or feverish at work, i am getting pissed. my hands will smell of soap 24/7. hehehe.

Of the hours of blather in TV - I saw only one person make this very good point.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg in New York City: "If you are sick, stay home".

That bares repeating..

Just an update -

Mexico confirmed: 26 hospitalized cases, 7 deaths. Mexico suspected: Appx 2000 hospitalized cases, 152 deaths. The problem is that only two labs in Mexico can identify the virus, so they don't know how many cases they have had. Without knowing what the denominator is, they don't know the death rate.

Outside of Mexico, the confirmed swine flu cases have been fairly mild cases, almost all treated outpatient, no deaths.

US 50 [edit: now 64] cases (mostly NY, also CA TX OH KS)
Canada 6 cases
Scotland 6 cases
Spain 2 case
NZ 11 cases
Israel 1 case
France suspected cases

This virus is not resistant to Tamiflu. Tamiflu is reportedly in ample supply, because the flu strain this past winter was not a severe one and was resistant to Tamiflu, hence not much Tamiflu was used. The virus is also not resistant to Relenza.

There is not a vaccine for swine flu, yet, and it takes several months to make one.

The concern is that the swine flu virus could turn into something more lethal as it spreads or in future years.

At some level, the CDC plans call for travel restrictions, discouraging public gatherings, and asking people to stay home. Apparently they are still far from making those recommendations.

Hmm - if I have to work from home for a couple weeks, I won't be unhappy. The kids will be delighted if their school is closed. But not so great for the economy.

I would treat this the same as the bird flu that was supposed to cause armageddon a few years ago. Just see what happens here, nothing to change your life about right now.

No! I want to work from home! Cough cough.

I know I won't be eating out until this is gone. If I didn't eat out ever, that would be fine with me.

First case in Philly reported today.

If this thing really takes off in Mexico as some experts are predicting, there may be lots of folks trying to get away from it. Running for their lives so to speak.

Where do ya suppose they might try to go? Would it be wrong to keep them out of this country knowing that might be condeming many of them, even if it meant controlling the spread here?
Lots of moral implications I personally hope none of us have to face. I think I know what I would do, but I'm not sure I'd be ready to live with it.
Sounds too much like a cheap science fiction show anyway.

I'm praying it will not get to be as big of a deal as they are predicting it could.

Now you guys know what to buy stock in:
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The guy that sits next to me considers his trip to Cancun in two weeks essential because he already paid for it.

What do I do when he gets back?

Salve yourself in this:
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Hose him down with Bleach from a safe distance.

There's also some thought that THIS may be the flu to contract, in order to prepare your immune system for the next one.

Speaking of getting pissed.... I hate it when some of our customers that have stayed home "because they are too sick to go to work.... think its OK to come into the shop for a social visit." We have no problem showing them the door and saying "come on back when you are feeling better" , then we all promptly wash our hands.
Should be interesting to see how this new strain plays out.