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futuresoptions 05-17-2009 04:45 PM

What is this called? Furniture question..
 
I believe this piece to be one of those put your spare change, hats, umbrella's on thingamajigs.... What do you call these? This thing is solid wood.... Any idea what the age is? Country of Mfg?... I am clueless when it comes to antiques... My wife wanted it and she got it for her birthday... I paid $250. Too Much?

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stomachmonkey 05-17-2009 04:59 PM

two fiddy?

Honestly from the pics looks like a deal

VINMAN 05-17-2009 05:00 PM

Valet??

wcc 05-17-2009 05:01 PM

If she wanted something like this and it puts a smile on her face for $250 I'd say you did good. You should stand it upright and I bet it would be more useful...

futuresoptions 05-17-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by VINMAN (Post 4669129)
Valet??

I was thinking butler of some sorts, but Valet may be the correct term.... It gives me something to search with now....

futuresoptions 05-17-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wcc (Post 4669132)
If she wanted something like this and it puts a smile on her face for $250 I'd say you did good. You should stand it upright and I bet it would be more useful...

Only she didn't know I was conspiring for a place to put my ball caps / change on..:D

lendaddy 05-17-2009 05:05 PM

"You put your weed in there."

futuresoptions 05-17-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 4669148)
"You put your weed in there."

:eek::eek::eek::eek::D

red911sc 05-17-2009 05:07 PM

It is a hall tree

dipso 05-17-2009 05:20 PM

Or a catchall.

rouxroux 05-17-2009 05:24 PM

Have seen quite a few of these "repro" units from Asia marked anywhere from $100-$300. We have one as well for our foyer.

TerryH 05-17-2009 05:28 PM

What's inside the doors, hooks? It could be a jewelry armoire.

Looks like umbrellas could be stored in the large railed parts, so a hall or entry piece is highly probable. Looks well made, likely worth more than you paid.

TimT 05-17-2009 05:29 PM

Its called pretty irritating when you cant orient the pics properly..

futuresoptions 05-17-2009 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by red911sc (Post 4669155)
It is a hall tree

Yes, that is what it is....

futuresoptions 05-17-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TimT (Post 4669191)
Its called pretty irritating when you cant orient the pics properly..


Sorry there Tim / fella's, the wife took the pics...

Bill Douglas 05-17-2009 05:32 PM

This is called a Whatnot So I guess yours is the same type of thing. It's worth about USD$600

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1242610343.jpg

futuresoptions 05-17-2009 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rouxroux (Post 4669183)
Have seen quite a few of these "repro" units from Asia marked anywhere from $100-$300. We have one as well for our foyer.

I really don't think this is a repro... In the pics it sort of looks like that cheesy furniture at the Chinese restaurants, but it isn't... This has no particle or compressed boards... all hard wood, with dove tails etc... even the drawer is properly made looks like oak sides & bottom... I am not saying that it is not a repro, but growing up a round cheap furniture my whole life:D, this does not appear to be the case with this piece....

pete3799 05-17-2009 05:41 PM

If I'm not mistaken I think thats a Porsche key holder.

dipso 05-17-2009 05:50 PM

Firewood?

Crowbob 05-17-2009 05:51 PM

Hall Tree is correct. You stole it; and it's beautiful. The hardware does not match the piece. The hardware is new(er). The piece, post Federalist. Small manufacturer, possibly English. Check inside a drawer, usually the left (were there more than one) for a brand. Like a cattle brand w/ a hot iron. Could be a simple name or a Trademark. Either way, if it's English walnut, you're golden; mahogany, not so much, still good for $250.

Then again, it could be crap, put-together furniture from Wal-Mart.

futuresoptions 05-17-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 4669239)
Hall Tree is correct. You stole it; and it's beautiful. The hardware does not match the piece. The hardware is new(er). The piece, post Federalist. Small manufacturer, possibly English. Check inside a drawer, usually the left (were there more than one) for a brand. Like a cattle brand w/ a hot iron. Could be a simple name or a Trademark. Either way, if it's English walnut, you're golden; mahogany, not so much, still good for $250.

Then again, it could be crap, put-together furniture from Wal-Mart.

You are right.. I told my wife that the hardware was modern and not original, especially the hooks that my hats are on.... on the back of the drawer and on the area where the drawer goes into it is engraved HST I or HST 1 I'll add a pic.... I will also include a pic of a sample of the wood...

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futuresoptions 05-17-2009 06:06 PM

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futuresoptions 05-17-2009 06:08 PM

Home Shopping Television ??? Lol....

Crowbob 05-17-2009 06:29 PM

Home-made. Cottage craftsman or even very early commercial mfg. 'Early' in the sense that the company was brand new when it (the piece) was made. Quite possibly one of a kind or a commission piece for "New Money" very late 1800's. Dove tail joinery? If that's a gap there below the brand in pic 1 above, which is due to shrinkage, leans toward it being home made more than a manufactured piece. However, being from the Great State of Tejas, it could even be Mezzigan.

futuresoptions 05-17-2009 06:44 PM

Thanks CrowBob,


I called it dove tails, but I don't think so.... here are some pics of the drawer...

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TerryH 05-17-2009 07:06 PM

That's Harry S. Trumans water closet/commode converted into a hall tree! Take a deep whiff, probably worth a fortune. ;)

Seriously, it looks like a well-made handcrafted piece!

futuresoptions 05-17-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TerryH (Post 4669361)
That's Harry S. Trumans water closet/commode converted into a hall tree! Take a deep whiff, probably worth a fortune. ;)

Seriously, it looks like a well-made handcrafted piece!


Honestly, I would have given $250. for the piece if it had been newly mfg'd and was at Wally World.... Anything to keep momma happy, but I was sorta intrigued by the piece as I thought it was a little unusual, a friend of mine had it at his house, his wife wanted to get it out of the way, and my wife wanted it.... soooo, she got what she wanted.... Now my mom is trying to talk my wife into selling it to her.....:D

MBAtarga 05-17-2009 07:22 PM

A lot of furniture pieces in that dark mahogany color are Indonesian made to resemble "antiques". The wood is stained dark to enhance the appearance, making it look more expensive. It's possible that piece is just a dozen or so years old, maybe 20 or 30.

futuresoptions 05-17-2009 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 4669378)
A lot of furniture pieces in that dark mahogany color are Indonesian made to resemble "antiques". The wood is stained dark to enhance the appearance, making it look more expensive. It's possible that piece is just a dozen or so years old, maybe 20 or 30.

Could be...., I really don't know....

Crowbob 05-17-2009 07:26 PM

Mortice and tennon AND dovetails? In the same drawer? Hmm.

Verdict: The piece is good for the inherent beauty; probably very rare but w/ no identifiable mfger (or lineage of ownership) not a really, really valuable piece.

Now, if you could prove it was once owned (or even made by) some big shot in history, Like Mark Twain or whatnot, you could sell it to a museum. I wouldn't though. Where will you put your hats? Plus, by the way, hats were never intended to be hung on the piece, I think. Somebody screwed in some hooks to hang their Budweiser/Nascar caps thereon.

NEXT!

TerryH 05-17-2009 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 4669378)
A lot of furniture pieces in that dark mahogany color are Indonesian made to resemble "antiques". The wood is stained dark to enhance the appearance, making it look more expensive. It's possible that piece is just a dozen or so years old, maybe 20 or 30.


HST-I could be Hallstand-I, where "I" could be the series designator. Mass produced to look old isn't necessarily a bad thing if it's well constructed. Difficult to go wrong if you got the wife happy and a functioning piece of furniture for $250.

Take it to the Antiques Road Show. :)

lendaddy 05-18-2009 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by futuresoptions (Post 4669266)

Hunter S. Thompson (HST) "kept his weed in there."

911Rob 05-18-2009 07:22 AM

whatnot? How about whatfor?

+1 dipso

rouxroux 05-18-2009 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 4669378)
A lot of furniture pieces in that dark mahogany color are Indonesian made to resemble "antiques". The wood is stained dark to enhance the appearance, making it look more expensive. It's possible that piece is just a dozen or so years old, maybe 20 or 30.


BINGO! That's what I was talking about in my earlier post. Just for grins, I took one of the drawers out of ours this morning to show the same joinery. The place we bought this from has many styles, including the clone of "Futuresoptions". This one was tagged @ $125, bought it for $75. We just use it as a place for our friends to put purses/bags on as they enter the house so our Spaniels won't rifle through them (they LOVE going through bags and scattering contents).

I could not have made something like this for $75. And in a room that also includes a seasonally-decorated mannequin (the wife dresses her up for the different holidays) and also antique victrolas and gas pumps, it fits in quite well in a white-trash type of way. ;)
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Zeke 05-18-2009 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 4669202)
This is called a Whatnot So I guess yours is the same type of thing. It's worth about USD$600

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1242610343.jpg

That's also know as an etegiere.
The hall tree looks to be a repro.

daepp 05-18-2009 11:40 AM

Umbrella stand?


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