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gassy 06-11-2009 07:48 AM

Am I selfish for wanting my pending son to be circumcised?
 
I just want it to look like mine...

Noah930 06-11-2009 07:59 AM

Hopefully, we will all grow old enough to eventually wind up in hospitals (and hospital-type settings) as elderly people. Maybe not necessarily die in the hospital, but have some hospitalizations/hospital experiences that are typical with advanced age. And at that time, when some nurse/nursing student/resident has to stick a catheter into our bladders, it sure is a heck of a lot easier to do so in a flaccid circumcised penis, compared to the uncircumcised variety.

scottmandue 06-11-2009 08:02 AM

I don't remember anyone asking me!

Dottore 06-11-2009 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 4715813)
Hopefully, we will all grow old enough to eventually wind up in hospitals (and hospital-type settings) as elderly people. Maybe not necessarily die in the hospital, but have some hospitalizations/hospital experiences that are typical with advanced age. And at that time, when some nurse/nursing student/resident has to stick a catheter into our bladders, it sure is a heck of a lot easier to do so in a flaccid circumcised penis, compared to the uncircumcised variety.

Is this supposed to be an argument in support of circumcision?

Oh Haha 06-11-2009 08:04 AM

No, you are not being selfish.

scottmandue 06-11-2009 08:06 AM

FWIW a survey said ladies are more likely to go down on circumcised guy.

Thanks mom and dad!

SmileWavy

stomachmonkey 06-11-2009 08:20 AM

No one asked me. Born in a german hospital off base so snipping is standard. My older brother was also born in Germany but on base so it was not done.

He elected to have it done at the tender young age of 44.

After 20 some odd years he admitted the reason he cut gym for pretty much all of HS was one day in the locker room a bunch of guys were picking on/harassing another kid. He went over to see what was up and realized they were picking on the kid because he was uncircumcised.

Last time he went to gym class.

Over the years he had also had some rejections from women because of it.

Just one persons experience. YMMV.

targa911S 06-11-2009 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 4715824)
FWIW a survey said ladies are more likely to go down on circumcised guy.

Thanks mom and dad!

SmileWavy

+100 on that.

exitwound 06-11-2009 08:34 AM

Yes you're being selfish. You're talking about cosmetics. If your reasons were medical, then it'd be different.

Porsche-O-Phile 06-11-2009 08:39 AM

Isn't it a form of genital mutilation that serves no purpose whatsoever?

Dottore 06-11-2009 08:42 AM

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Tishabet 06-11-2009 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 4715892)
Isn't it a form of genital mutilation that serves no purpose whatsoever?

Correct. But the chicks dig it.

Amail 06-11-2009 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitwound (Post 4715876)
Yes you're being selfish. You're talking about cosmetics. If your reasons were medical, then it'd be different.

What a crock.

No, you're not being selfish. You're talking about cosmetics, yes, but that in no way makes it wrong.

Did you pick out a name? Bet it's not Tweedle the Turdchewer. It's probably something like Jason, or Steve. That's because how people perceive us is important.

You're doing fine, pay no attention the the hand-wringing au-naturel ninnies.

Super_Dave_D 06-11-2009 08:47 AM

No your not! Here is all you ever wanted to know! We had it performed with my recent newborn before we took him home. The nurse said they do that to about 90% of all newborns

http://www.circinfo.net/index.html

Porsche-O-Phile 06-11-2009 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tishabet (Post 4715902)
Correct. But the chicks dig it.

Yeah but so do the gay guys! Double-edged sword (no pun) if you ask me!

Besides I think by the time you get to the point where some chick is looking at your junk anyway, they've pretty much already decided they're going to let you stick it in 'em, cut or not... I don't know if being circumcised (or being uncircumcised) is a game-changer as far as that goes...

Joeaksa 06-11-2009 08:56 AM

Have had it both ways (was cut around age 22 when I did not have any choice) and its not a big deal either way.

BTW, the foreskin goes a way when it gets stiff, so never had any issue with the girls.

Moses 06-11-2009 09:07 AM

I was circumcised as a newborn. It was awful. I couldn't walk for a year.

cantdrv55 06-11-2009 09:10 AM

My 3 brothers and I were circumcised at 14. I don't know why my parents waited and we did not have a choice. Do it to him while he's a baby. The pain I felt when I woke up from the general anesthesia is something I will remember for the rest of my life. Also, after having mine done, my older brother who was circumcised 5 years prior thought it would be funny to bring his gf around. I was up and about in a dress when she came in the house. If he hadn't been bigger than me at the time, I'd have kicked his a55.

cantdrv55 06-11-2009 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Moses (Post 4715938)
I was circumcised as a newborn. It was awful. I couldn't walk for a year.

OK, you've been pretty funny lately. Are you doing stand-up at the hospital now too?

KevinP73 06-11-2009 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gassy (Post 4715797)
I just want it to look like mine...

so you're saying you are hung like a baby?

Rick Lee 06-11-2009 09:13 AM

This thread is useFUL without pics.

David 06-11-2009 09:37 AM

No, not being selfish.

What's the benefit of uncircumcised anyway? More feel? I don't need any more feeling there. Usually I need less :D

Amail 06-11-2009 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinP73 (Post 4715955)
so you're saying you are hung like a baby?

I'm hung like a baby boy - 6 lbs, 10 oz, and 19.75 inches!

exitwound 06-11-2009 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amail (Post 4715903)
What a crock.

No, you're not being selfish. You're talking about cosmetics, yes, but that in no way makes it wrong.

Did you pick out a name? Bet it's not Tweedle the Turdchewer. It's probably something like Jason, or Steve. That's because how people perceive us is important.

You're doing fine, pay no attention the the hand-wringing au-naturel ninnies.

I was circumcised at birth and I like how it looks. But your argument is invalid because 99.99% of the people you ever meet will NEVER see you naked and therefore never have to judge you on it. Those two jerks in middle school who have to be bullies have the problems and aren't worth it.

Go read up on the procedure and how the babies aren't given anesthesia because of body weight and pass out due to the pain. It's torture at birth. Let your son decide for himself when he's older.

Moses 06-11-2009 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by exitwound (Post 4715997)

Go read up on the procedure and how the babies aren't given anesthesia because of body weight and pass out due to the pain.

Nonsense.

Super_Dave_D 06-11-2009 09:44 AM

Copied from teh site:

Circumcision Pain and Memory

No adverse psychological aftermath has been demonstrated [493]. A longitudinal study in the UK, beginning in 1946, involving over 5,000 individuals followed from birth to age 27 found no difference in developmental and behavioural indices between circumcised and uncircumcised males [94].

Long-term psychological, emotional, and sexual impediments from circumcision are anecdotal [380, 626] and can be discounted. It must be recognized that there are many painful experiences encountered by the child before, during and after birth [361]. Circumcision, if performed without anaesthetic is one of these.

Cortisol levels, heart rate and respiration have registered an increase during and shortly after the procedure [558, 559], indicating that the baby is not unaware of having had something painful done in instances when circumcision has been carried out without anesthesia. It is therefore generally advised that local anesthetic be used for all circumcisions on infants (more on anesthesia later).

The response is variable and, even without anesthetic, some babies show no signs of distress at all. Most do, however, and this may be contributed by the restraining procedure, not just the surgery itself.

In the past doctors and parents had to weigh up the need to inflict this short-term pain in the context of a lifetime of gain from prevention or reduction of subsequent problems. Use of anesthetic for circumcision makes it either relatively or absolutely pain-free.

gassy 06-11-2009 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinP73 (Post 4715955)
so you're saying you are hung like a baby?

Probably darn close...:eek:

Amail 06-11-2009 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitwound (Post 4715997)
I was circumcised at birth and I like how it looks. But your argument is invalid because 99.99% of the people you ever meet will NEVER see you naked and therefore never have to judge you on it. Those two jerks in middle school who have to be bullies have the problems and aren't worth it.

Go read up on the procedure and how the babies aren't given anesthesia because of body weight and pass out due to the pain. It's torture at birth. Let your son decide for himself when he's older.

If I were the guy in middle school being picked on by the two jerks because of my hoodie, I'd be some pissed off that my parents elected instead to spare me the pain when I was 10 minutes old.

What was your middle school experience like? Would you tell your folks "Gee, guys, I've given this some thought, and the kids are giving me some grief, so could I, you know, have my schlong trimmed"?

As a parent part of your job is to use adult judgment because your child can't. By the time he's old enough to go and have this handled, the damage is done.

I speak from some experience - while I was neither the picked on kid nor the bully, I was there and saw it happen. These are exactly the thoughts that went thru my mind when my sons were born.

To those that are untrimmed, I know you have some perspective that I don't. I may put more emphasis on this than is due, but I remember kids in school that were mercilessly harassed because of it.

scottmandue 06-11-2009 09:57 AM

That whole birthing thing was painful and traumatic for me!

I never recovered!

SOMEONE GET ME A LAWYER!

s_morrison57 06-11-2009 09:58 AM

I'm lucky, I'm a Canadian so everything from child birth to open heart operations are free, but when it comes to Fore skin and you want it gone it's considered optional cosmetic surgury and you have to pay - about $400.00 CDN

Q: Why do they spank babies when their born?
A: To knock the foreskins off the dumb ones or to knock the dicks off the dumb ones

Q: How do you circumcise a killer whale?
A: 4 skin divers

scottmandue 06-11-2009 10:02 AM

So we cut off their foreskins when they are a baby then when we grow up they tell us to cover it with a condom... no wonder kids are so confused!

island911 06-11-2009 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinP73 (Post 4715955)
so you're saying you are hung like a baby?

LOL ..what I was thinking.


I really don't get the "appearance" argument. I mean, how far back do you have them cut? ...so it still looks like a matsutake mushroom spout when he's comes out of the cold water? Seems stupid.

s_morrison57 06-11-2009 10:29 AM

Moses
Sorry but you are dead wrong. To anethisize (OK my spelling sucks) a baby is a dangerous thing and is only done in an emergency. Maybe a local shot but I doubt that as well. I saw a show on TV about pain and how the body deals with it, the " old wives tale " is that babies don't feel pain - wrong again and to prove it they tape recorded a baby crying cause it was hungry, then they played the recording they made when that same baby lost his fore skin , the memery of that still gives me the creeps, if any one heard that sreaming from the apt. next door you would break down walls and hurt the person that was inflicting that level of pain to a new born. It was shocking to hear and expecting parents should listen to that recording before making a call on a worthless operation, after hearing that no parent would ever knowinly submit their child to that level of pain. If this operation is done for a religious reason then maybe your taking your religon a bit to seriously. IMO

red-beard 06-11-2009 10:45 AM

And now for the ethnic joke of the day!

Why do ethinic women like circumcised penises?

Cause they like 10% off everything!

"Ba-da-bing"

I'll be here all week

Try the veal. And don't forget to tip your waitresses. They're great girls!

Amail 06-11-2009 10:47 AM

Sorry Moses, this guy saw proof on tv - you need to brush up on your medical knowlege!

the 06-11-2009 10:51 AM

what is the current % of babies that are circumsized in the US?

I thought I recall reading a couple years ago that it is now down to less than 50%.

Moses 06-11-2009 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s_morrison57 (Post 4716089)
Moses
Sorry but you are dead wrong. To anethisize (OK my spelling sucks) a baby is a dangerous thing and is only done in an emergency. Maybe a local shot but I doubt that as well. I saw a show on TV about pain and how the body deals with it, the " old wives tale " is that babies don't feel pain - wrong again and to prove it they tape recorded a baby crying cause it was hungry, then they played the recording they made when that same baby lost his fore skin , the memery of that still gives me the creeps, if any one heard that sreaming from the apt. next door you would break down walls and hurt the person that was inflicting that level of pain to a new born. It was shocking to hear and expecting parents should listen to that recording before making a call on a worthless operation, after hearing that no parent would ever knowinly submit their child to that level of pain. If this operation is done for a religious reason then maybe your taking your religon a bit to seriously. IMO

Serenity now...

Don't even know where to start with this drivel.

No one would even suggest using a general anesthetic on an infant for a circumcision. Every circumcision I've seen in the last 15 years has been with a local anesthetic. First a swab with a numbing agent on a Q-tip (painless), then a small injection of lidocaine through a tiny tuberculin needle (also painless). Once the nerve block is full (about 5 minutes) the circumcision is performed. Babies frequently fall asleep during the procedure.

I have no strong feelings about circumcision. Do it or don't...your call. I am however highly offended by irrational, hysterical misinformation. Leave that stuff for Oprah.

flatbutt 06-11-2009 11:02 AM

between moses and kevin my monitor is dripping with coffee!

flatbutt 06-11-2009 11:05 AM

AND I was in the room when my boy was tipped...he did not pass out from the pain as a local was used and he barely issued more than a whimper.

Moses 06-11-2009 11:09 AM

And another thing, Morrison. You know those crunchberries in Cap'n Crunch? They're not real berries. Seriously.


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