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dd74 06-29-2009 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4750713)
I have a problem with the little fact that he was a child molester with an intentionally deformed face.

No child should ever have to ask the question, "Mommy/Daddy, why did he do that to his face?"

I welcome his death, it's long overdue. Had he died when he was still a black man, he'd be rightfully considered an all time ledgend by everybody.

Alas, twas not to be...

I don't think he was ever convicted of being a child molester. Now, unless you don't believe in the virtue of a court of law, you can say he was a child molester, yet at the same time you have nothing to back it up with.

As far as he being considered an all-time "legend" by everyone if he were still a black man...that's just a stupid statement on your part that you probably meant with the utmost in sincerity.

Which makes it Stupid x 2. SmileWavy

m21sniper 06-29-2009 03:58 PM

I don't believe in the virtue of a court of law. He was a child molester.

And a freak.

There is just no denying it.

speeder 06-29-2009 04:08 PM

Here's an interesting story about MJ that comes about as close to the truth as you're going to get, IMO:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196009/Im-better-dead-Im-How-Michael-Jackson-predicted-death-months-ago.html

Zeke 06-29-2009 04:37 PM

Lengthy but interesting read. With copyright acknowledgment, I will post this sentence from what appears to be part of a book:

"Michael was receiving regular injections of Alpha-1 antitrypsin derived from human plasma."

That would certainly explain the needle marks reported.

Aurel 06-29-2009 04:57 PM

My wife used to have old MJ vinyls from the eighties. Too bad she got rid of them, I bet they would bring some good dough on ebay now.

Sonic dB 06-29-2009 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 4750820)
Here's an interesting story about MJ that comes about as close to the truth as you're going to get, IMO:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196009/Im-better-dead-Im-How-Michael-Jackson-predicted-death-months-ago.html



He was really a mess....that is for sure. Seems inevitable that this was going to happen.

I read today also that when he signed on for the new 50 shows...he actually thought he was signing to do 10 shows...thats how out of touch he was.

Also interesting sidebar to that article on Posh' Spice's Breasts.

Tobra 06-29-2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4746378)
I don't see MJ as in the same universe as Mozart. I'm learning some Mozart stuff on guitar right now. There's not an MJ song I couldn't easily learn on any instrument, other than Beat It, which Eddie Van Halen played for him. His music is not in the least bit challenging. He didn't write much if any of it himself. His voice wasn't anything special. Yes, he could dance and he had starpower/charisma. But that stuff doesn't hold up for centuries like Mozart's does. A few of his songs will hold up for a very long time. But no one will be studying his writing style or learning how to play his stuff because he didn't write it and it's not challenging to play.

Just so.

He was a talented pop star and entertainer. He was a very talented dancer and choreographer. Paul McCartney is far superior to him as a songwriter, or has a more impressive body of work, if you think about it.

He always seemed kind of tragic to me, damaged goods. His father, Joe Jackson, is pretty evil. Inconceivable to me that anyone could do their kids like that, for any amount of dough. Speaking of dough, the same sort of parents who would allow their kid to sleep over at Mr Jackson's Neverland Ranch would take hush money if anything untoward were to transpire.

Geronimo '74 06-29-2009 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4750795)
I don't believe in the virtue of a court of law. He was a child molester.

And a freak.

There is just no denying it.

Wow, there's no reasoning with you on this, is there?
Well alright then, you're absolutely right on everything, all you your opinions are truth, and everybody who disagrees is wrong. Your view on the world is the only correct one, everything is like you say it is. Period.
Happy now?

Dottore 06-29-2009 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4750713)

I welcome his death, it's long overdue.

You are one sick f__k.

Completely beyond redemption.

Sonic dB 06-30-2009 12:18 AM

This guy had so many sycophants, and so many people that hated him...its hard to get a real picture / story.

For example... Lou Ferrigno is on Larry King right now and he said he trained Michael as recently as late May and Michael was in great shape...as good as he was 20 years ago and that there was no evidence of drug useage etc.

Earlier there was 'breaking news' that they pulled a big bag of drugs from his house today... its crazy the difference in stories on this guy.

VINMAN 06-30-2009 05:48 AM

Our country ,economy and peoples lives are going to hell in a hand basket, and this is societies main concern???

Sad ,sad, sad...:(

m21sniper 06-30-2009 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 4751501)
Wow, there's no reasoning with you on this, is there?

What's to reason?

He was a mentally twisted, surgically deformed "man" who admitted to sleeping with young boys, who was admittedly gay, and who twice settled with parents of children he molested.

Clearly, he was a deranged pedophile.

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Originally Posted by Dottore (Post 4751509)
You are one sick f__k.

Completely beyond redemption.

That sums up my feelings for Jackson perfectly.

I welcome the death of any child molester, by the way.

It is no surprise to me that you admire one though. Not in the slightest. Because you are one sick fk. Completely beyond redemption.

dd74 06-30-2009 09:38 AM

When it rains, it pours...

http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/michael-jackson-debbie-rowe-michael-jr-paris-prince-michael-adoption-surrogate/

-- MJ never adopted his three kids
-- MJ, nor Debbie Rowe (ex-wife) are biologically related to the kids
-- at stake is a $ billion dollar estate
-- Papa Joe Jackson has been left out of the will

Fun, fun, fun...SmileWavy

widgeon13 06-30-2009 10:05 AM

Just saw that as well, guess....... "we are the world" applies here.

These kids are going to be so screwed up! I feel sorry for somebody.

Wonder if the pervert even had a "johnson"?

Schrup 06-30-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4752046)
What's to reason?

He was a mentally twisted, surgically deformed "man" who admitted to sleeping with young boys, who was admittedly gay, and who twice settled with parents of children he molested.

Clearly, he was a deranged pedophile.


That sums up my feelings for Jackson perfectly.

I welcome the death of any child molester, by the way.

I'm with you on this one, innocent people don't pay 25 million in hush money. There is NOTHING in this world I hate more than pedophiles, that includes mass murders. May his soul rot in hell!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/06/16/michael.jackson/index.html

craigster59 06-30-2009 10:45 AM

I don't care that the McMartins were found not guilty in the McMartin Preschool Trial, I am convinced that the following is true and DID happen.....


"Some of the accusations were described as "bizarre",[6] overlapping with accusations that mirrored the just-starting satanic ritual abuse moral panic.[3] It was alleged that, in addition to having been sexually abused, they saw witches fly, traveled in a hot-air balloon, and were taken through underground tunnels.[3] When shown a series of photographs by Danny Davis, the McMartins' lawyer, one child identified actor Chuck Norris as one of the abusers.[1]

Some of the abuse was alleged to have occurred in secret tunnels beneath the school. Several investigations turned up evidence of old buildings on the site and other debris from before the school was built, but no evidence of any rooms was found.[3] There were claims of orgies at car washes and airports, and of children being flushed down toilets to secret rooms where they would be abused, then cleaned up and presented back to their unsuspecting parents. Some children said they were made to play a game called "Naked Movie Star" in which they were photographed nude."

speeder 07-01-2009 05:20 PM

Lest anyone get the impression that I sympathise w/ child molesters, I don't. I'm just not convinced that MJ molested children. He was a weirdo man/child who let kids sleep in his bed, (which isn't right but does not rise to the level of molestation/rape), and I believe that there is an excellent possibility that the child victims in his 2 cases were coached to exaggerate his inappropriate behavior in order to make the parents rich.

Certain cases and studies have confirmed that even small children will lie when coached, even a whole classroom or several "victims" in a recent case where they wanted to punish a teacher. I think that he paid them the big $$ because of the embarrassment of a trial and the case not looking good against him since he put himself in stupid situations w/ minor children. Even the remote possibility of going to jail as a child molester is pretty much a death sentence for anyone and the pay-off he made was peanuts to him at the time.

JMO, benefit of the doubt plus lack of evidence of hard-core crimes against kids. Someone earlier claimed that he "fked little boys", I'm still waiting for the transcript of that testimony.

Dottore 07-01-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 4754929)
Lest anyone get the impression that I sympathise w/ child molesters, I don't. I'm just not convinced that MJ molested children. He was a weirdo man/child who let kids sleep in his bed, (which isn't right but does not rise to the level of molestation/rape), and I believe that there is an excellent possibility that the child victims in his 2 cases were coached to exaggerate his inappropriate behavior in order to make the parents rich.

I agree entirely with your take on this.

m21sniper 07-01-2009 05:44 PM

OJ was innocent too. He never killed anyone, and certainly not his ex wife. The killer is still out there....somewhere.

Porsche-O-Phile 07-01-2009 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4754992)
OJ was innocent too. He never killed anyone, and certainly not his ex wife. The killer is still out there....somewhere.

And just like OJ, this is just another example of the white man trying to keep the black man down!

Or maybe it's the white man trying to keep the white man down. Hard to tell.


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