Mosely is on his way out

[javadog]

The latest news from Paris:

FIA president Max Mosley has said he will not stand for re-election after claiming an agreement has been reached with Formula 1 teams to avoid a breakaway series.

Mosley had said this week that he was left with no choice but to run again following what he called an attack on the FIA's right to regulate the Formula 1 World Championship.

But he revealed after today's meeting of the FIA World Motorsport Council in Paris that a deal to avoid a split has been reached with the teams.

"There will be no split," said Mosley. "We have agreed to a reduction of costs. There will be one F1 championship but the objective is to get back to the spending levels of the early 1990s within two years."

One asshat gone, one to go....

JR

[MFAFF]

I hope that is but one point in many that Spanky has agreed to...
His original plan was to go, prior to all this brewing up so its no real concession.

Something else should be in there as well....

[Dennis Kalma]

I will be so disappointed if FOTA cave and keep the crap that FIA brings to F1. Getting rid of Mosely is essential, as is getting rid of Bernie, but more importantly is getting rid of the organizations that spawned and kept those two in power. As long as they have any hand in F1, it will always be more of a political circus than a racing series. Over-priced, chasing venues in lands where no one wants to watch, arbitrary rule changes, unfair penalties....you name it.

I am not typically a man who swears, but ^$&%$^% those rotten *%#&^%*^ may they %&*%*^% in ^&(^ and have goats rape their mothers if they settle.....

Dennis

[javadog]

It sounds like the FIA caved, perhaps with a little persuasion from the troll. More, from Autosport:

"The Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) will officially call off its plans for a rival championship tomorrow after reaching a breakthrough deal with the FIA.

Following last-ditch talks between FIA president Max Mosley, FOTA chairman Luca di Montezemolo and F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone, an agreement was reached that commits the teams to the sport until 2012.

FOTA members had been set to press ahead with breakaway plans in the meeting in Bologna tomorrow, but following its victory in getting the FIA and Ecclestone to agree to terms that keeps its eight members in F1, it will now rubber stamp final cost-cutting regulations for 2010 and call off its breakaway instead.

The deal between the FIA and FOTA was confirmed on Wednesday afternoon, when the FIA announced that its planned budget cap for 2010 had been scrapped, and instead FOTA-proposed cost-cutting regulations will be introduced.

In a bid to help new teams, technical assistance will be offered to Campos Meta, Manor Grand Prix and Team US F1 by major outfits.

The FIA statement said: "As part of this agreement, the teams will, within two years, reduce the costs of competing in the championship to the level of the early 1990s.

"The manufacturer teams have agreed to assist the new entries for 2010 by providing technical assistance."

As part of the deal with FOTA, the teams' association has agreed to recognise the FIA's position as the sport's governing body, adding that a new Concorde Agreement has been agreed in principle to keep all of the teams in F1 to 2012 and, upon re-negotiation, it is hoped beyond.

"The manufacturer teams have further agreed to the permanent and continuing role of the FIA as the sport's governing body," added the statement. "They have also committed to the commercial arrangements for the FIA Formula 1 World Championship until 2012 and have agreed to renegotiate and extend this contract before the end of that period.

"All teams will adhere to an upgraded version of the governance provisions of the 1998 Concorde Agreement."

Furthermore, with it clear that FOTA is not trying to usurp the FIA's authority, FIA president Max Mosley has agreed to not stand for re-election in October."

A step forward, methinks.
JR

[MFAFF]

And it would seem that all the world's at peace and we're all friends again...

BTW here's the list for next year.....

TEAM: CONSTRUCTOR
SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO: FERRARI
VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES: McLAREN MERCEDES
BMW SAUBER F1 TEAM: BMW SAUBER
RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
PANASONIC TOYOTA RACING TOYOTA
SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR TBA
RED BULL RACING RBR TBA
AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS TOYOTA
FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN TBA
CAMPOS META TEAM CAMPOS COSWORTH
MANOR GRAND PRIX MANOR COSWORTH
TEAM US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH

Could be interesting with those three new teams.. assuming they actually get a car ready in time.

[javadog]

More comments from Mos.., err, I mean Spanky, showing his true nature:

"As far as I'm concerned, the teams were always going to get rid of me in October," said Mosley. "Well they still are. Whether the person who succeeds me will be more to their liking remains to be seen."

Any doubts left as to what this fight was really about?

JR

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by javadog

One asshat gone, one to go....

JR

Very true!

[Aerkuld]

Now if they can keep the British Grand Prix at Silverstone and bring back Indy...

[Stanley]

from planet f1

FOTA aim to breathe new life into F1

Thursday 25th June 2009

The Formula One Teams' Association on Thursday outlined a plan to breathe new life into the sport with FIA President Max Mosley out of the picture.

The signs earlier this week was that Thursday's planned FOTA meeting at Bologna airport would have culminated in the rubber-stamping of a breakaway series.

Instead, it took on a more positive air in the wake of Wednesday's peace pact between the FIA and FOTA as a revolution, not a revolt, eventually unfolded.

The teams gained the change in governance they demanded as Mosley will not stand for re-election when his mandate ends in October, bringing to a close 16 years of rule.

There will also be no budget cap for next year, instead a 'glidepath' through to 2011 towards early 1990s levels of spending, which is vague, but amounts to around £40million.

But what was clear from Thursday's meeting was a need to improve the show, to re-ignite the passion of the fans given the empty seats viewed recently in such places as Shanghai and Istanbul.

"Formula One needs fresh air, ideas, improvement, and we will work together to achieve this goal," insisted Ferrari president and FOTA chairman Luca di Montezemolo.

The Italian proved to be Mosley's staunchest critic and prime mover behind a rival Championship during the past two months in which the battle has raged between the two sides.

But after all the wrangling and the mud-slinging off track, the key intention now is to deliver on it a sport worthy of its name.

As McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh remarked: "We have concentrated on too many negative issues in the last few months.

"There is a clear commitment from all of the teams to work on the show and the entertainment, on making sure we reflect the wishes of the fans who support us - I think we can make the sport better.

"I hope that yesterday we reached a historic point for Formula One, enabling us perhaps to look outwards rather than continually looking in at the inner workings of our sport.

"It is an exciting moment for our sport and one that can only build to being bigger and better."

Reflecting on the fact the FIA ignored FOTA's fans' survey with ideas on how to improve the sport when it was presented earlier this year, Whitmarsh is now hoping it will be resurrected.

"Unfortunately none of those suggestions and ideas, that we felt were positive, were accepted," added Whitmarsh.

"We now have to continue that work. We have to be structured in the way we speak to the audience, asking them what they expect from the sport, the format, how they understand it, how it's presented, how we provide information.

"There is no singular point. It is listening to what the audience wants and making sure we respond to it to improve the show, the spectacle and the information that's provided."

With Flavio Briatore (Renault)' Mario Theissen, John Howett (Toyota), Christian Horner (Red Bull Racing), Stefano Domenicali (Ferrari), Nick Fry (Brawn GP) and Franz Tost (Toro Rosso) all in attendance, another overwhelming message was that of the unity Mosley seemingly under-estimated.

"It's difficult to exaggerate the unity you see in front of you," remarked Fry, whose team would not be on the grid this season but for FOTA.

"We've all stuck together, with Brawn GP supported very strongly by all of our competitors.

"I'm very proud of that, and proud to be here amongst this group, so we're very much looking forward to a good future for Formula One."

Howett confirmed dialogue will take place with Williams and Force India regarding their return to FOTA after they were suspended in light of them submitting unconditional entries to the FIA for 2010.

Talks are also planned with the three new entrants for 2010, Team US F1, Manor Grand Prix and Campos Meta, to see if they are interested in joining FOTA.

This is great news that F1 is actually trying to become more fan friendly rather than just caring about the money. With regards to Silverstone, FOTA would be crazy to not have a race there next year. The place was packed with enthusiastic fans. For me it's much more exciting to watch a race with a packed grandstand, flags and air horns all over the place.

[artplumber]

Mosley was basically shown the door by Bernie after the "Nazi" incident, and everyone knew he was not going to go up again for renewal.

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by artplumber

Mosley was basically shown the door by Bernie after the "Nazi" incident, and everyone knew he was not going to go up again for renewal.

He should have been kicked out the next day. Him and his Nazi past have no place in F1 or any public organization. Hope that the girls he "plays with" tie him up one last time and show him what a strap on is really for. Thats what, IMHO, he really deserves as thats what he has done to us the last 10 years.

[legion]

I just found this thread after being off the grid for a few days.

This is the second-best possible outcome.

Now, I hate to be this way, but in the past week we've lost Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett. They say they always go in threes. I think you know what I'm saying.

The teams have an interest in getting fans. Bernie only has an interest in paying his debts.

[cl8ton]

Hopefully Bernie & Max can find a deserted island and be the couple that they are!
If those two twits are outta the way, I hope F1 can return to:

A) No team budget limitations (salary/engine development)
B) Shed the KERS! These are hybrid F1 cars by God! Not a Prius!
C) Go back to V10’s
D) Remove the Aerodynamics imposed this year
E) Any team can choose any tire they deem fit & run the same type of tire for the whole dam race
F) Keep Silverstone (WTF)
G) Bring F1 back to North America

F1 to me has been the most exciting racing program I have ever watched. All these freaking
rules is ruining it for me. In this day and age, I really like a racing program with a no holds bar attitude!

They are turning into NASCAR!

[jluetjen]

Originally Posted by Aerkuld

Now if they can keep the British Grand Prix at Silverstone and bring back Indy...

... and Montreal!!!!

[jluetjen]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

He should have been kicked out the next day. Him and his Nazi past have no place in F1 or any public organization. Hope that the girls he "plays with" tie him up one last time and show him what a strap on is really for. Thats what, IMHO, he really deserves as thats what he has done to us the last 10 years.

For those with short memories, I can safely say that Max was an improvement from his predecessor: Jean Marie Ballestre.

[Amail]

Hasn't safety improved about a billion percent under Max's leadership?

[javadog]

Yes, to both of the above. The problem is, he is now doing more harm than good and his ego has gotten in the way of him doing what is right.

I can only pray he dies tomorrow and takes the lying dwarf with him.

JR

[Dennis Kalma]

Originally Posted by Amail

Hasn't safety improved about a billion percent under Max's leadership?

Yes that is true, and certainly Max can take some credit. I do question how much of the drive came from him and how much from various drivers initiatives including (if I recall) the odd threat of driver strikes and so forth.


I suspect that even without Maxipad, we'd still have vastly improved safety standards, partly due to the fact that most spectators do not want their favourite driver to die (much less sponsors) and the state of the art, legal liabilities and so forth all led to a drive for more safety.

Dennis

[Jim Richards]

Infortunately, Spanky will not leave F1 quickly or quietly.

[jluetjen]

It's funny, I've always had a soft-spot for March race cars, the perennial underdogs.





Mosley was the "M" in March. Back when he started, I was expecting good things to finally have a "Racer" running the FIA. Alas, like all politicians, he's overstayed his welcome. If my memory is correct, the same applied to JMB. They'd really do well I think to implement term-limits at the FIA.

As far is Bernie is concerned, I don't think that he's going anywhere short of...
A) Bankruptcy
B) A hostile take-over of his F1 businesses
C) Death
D) The F1 teams bolting the series (which would undoubtedly prompt one of the above options)

Bernie's contract with the FIA is most likely fully paid for. It didn't cost that much, so his company has got the F1 commercial rights from the FIA for most likely another 80+ years.