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126coupe 07-10-2009 06:44 AM

Help with hornet/wasp nest
 
These guys keep trying to build their nest and I keep knocking it down, its right next to the front door. Is their something i can treat the area with so they don't come back?

Rick Lee 07-10-2009 06:45 AM

Glue traps.

Drdogface 07-10-2009 08:12 AM

I would think you could hose the area down with some of that wasp nest spray. It's not really a spray but more like a mini fire hose containing the usual chemicals. I would suspect it would keep a residual of odor, etc. for long enough to convince them to go elsewhere.

charleskieffner 07-10-2009 08:15 AM

WD-40 and a TORCH!

126coupe 07-10-2009 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drdogface (Post 4769843)
I would think you could hose the area down with some of that wasp nest spray. It's not really a spray but more like a mini fire hose containing the usual chemicals. I would suspect it would keep a residual of odor, etc. for long enough to convince them to go elsewhere.

I did that and they continued building the next the very next day.

masraum 07-10-2009 09:45 AM

Demon WP. I'm pretty sure that'll get em and stop them from coming back. You can get it on Amazon.

Netspeed 07-10-2009 09:53 AM

I tried those hanging bags that look like wasp nests. The theory is that, because they're so territorial, they'll avoid the area that has been staked out by other wasps......it didn't work at all.

The best thing I've found is to spray the nest with a can of wasp spray (sorry....don't know the chemicals). They key is to do it around 10pm when the sun goes down and it starts cooling off. They all go back to the nest for the night and that spray will knock them down in no time flat. Don't destroy the nest right away as any straglers the next day will come in contact with the poison if they land on the nest. After a few days, crush the nest.

Groesbeck Hurricane 07-10-2009 10:16 AM

Paint the area sky blue. Less hassle and the pesky vermin will leave it alone. They will think it is part of the sky.

Rusty Heap 07-10-2009 10:58 AM

Here's mine, under a 2 foot wide eave so it's at least a foot wide, and it's 25% bigger now as I took this photo a week or two ago.

Unfortunately it's about 20 foot off the ground top of a second story.

When it was the size of a cantalope, I took a pressure washer with a 0 degree tip (bullet stream) and blasted 1/2 of it down. They just rebuilt it.

Last night I hit it with a can of wasp killer that shoots 15-20 foot. Knocked a bunch of them out dead, but they're still crawling around........second dose of wasp killer spray at dusk tonight.



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1247252138.jpg

Tishabet 07-10-2009 11:22 AM

I just found a spot where they are entering my home... through a little gap in a brick wall. It is looking like they may have built a nest between my ceiling and roof, and are gaining access to the area through the gap. I just noticed that there were a lot of wasps hovering in that area, and put two and two together.

Assuming I can seal the hole will that be it? i.e. will the ones stuck "inside" just die off?

Netspeed 07-10-2009 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty Heap (Post 4770139)
Here's mine, under a 2 foot wide eave so it's at least a foot wide, and it's 25% bigger now as I took this photo a week or two ago.

Unfortunately it's about 20 foot off the ground top of a second story.

When it was the size of a cantalope, I took a pressure washer with a 0 degree tip (bullet stream) and blasted 1/2 of it down. They just rebuilt it.

Last night I hit it with a can of wasp killer that shoots 15-20 foot. Knocked a bunch of them out dead, but they're still crawling around........second dose of wasp killer spray at dusk tonight.



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1247252138.jpg

That thing's huge! That's not the normal paper wasp nest that I'm used to seeing.

Netspeed 07-10-2009 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tishabet (Post 4770167)
I just found a spot where they are entering my home... through a little gap in a brick wall! It is looking like they may have built a nest between my ceiling and roof, and are gaining access to the area through a spot where the cement between two bricks is missing. I just noticed that there were a lot of wasps hovering in that area, and put two and two together.

Assuming I can seal the hole (which looks to be the space between two bricks, 2 inches by maybe .25 inch), will that be it? i.e. will the ones stuck "inside" just die off?

I'd spray it and then seal it.

Porsche_monkey 07-10-2009 12:10 PM

Place a vacuum hose near where they enter. As they fly past they get sucked in, then put the vacuum hose onto the lawnmower exhaust...done.

This does work.

nynor 07-10-2009 02:55 PM

stanley steemer carpet spot remover. kills em dead dead dead, right NOW. and they don't come back for some reason. i discovered this on accident. seriously, it kills them faster than any insect killer i've ever seen.

Zeke 07-10-2009 05:43 PM

this is what he is talking about

http://www.cirrusimage.com/Hymenopte...wasp_nest_.jpg

I just leave them alone and they leave me alone.

RWebb 07-10-2009 06:03 PM

"don't know the chemicals"

it's a neurotoxin and WILL affect you, so be careful

wear gloves, maybe mask - ls shirt & wash right afterwards.

St. Steamer stuff would be great - I never knew that...

doug_porsche 07-10-2009 06:56 PM

definitely chemicals. Dont know how the EPA lets it be sold.

Try aerosol Break Parts Cleaner. Will kill the the ones it comes in contact with. The rest just sort of give up. When you use it on ant piles, the ants dont even try to collect the bodies.

Oh yea, it works pretty good on breaks too.

vash 07-10-2009 07:38 PM

jeezus! i would call a pro!!

one of the few creatures i am truly scared of.

schamp 07-11-2009 04:07 AM

Hornets nest. And lots and lots of hornets. I have found that once they think they have been found they move somewhere else. Don't think those are going anywhere. You can spray and spray. Be very careful they will come after you. When you are spraying one hole they come out of the second one. Call it an entrance and exit. The more you mess with them the quicker they will be to attack.

RWebb 07-11-2009 11:27 AM

he's in Calif. so do they have hornets there?

this is imp. b/c the behavior of the things depends on what they are

a pro. is always nice no matter what...

Por_sha911 07-11-2009 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charleskieffner (Post 4769850)
WD-40 and a TORCH!

With the nest right next to the front door I'm thinking he'd better have a good homeowners fire policy.
Wasps: Spray at night and leave the nest up for a week. Keep spraying if needed.
Hornets: Call the pro's. Its cheaper than a doctor bill.

Groesbeck Hurricane 07-11-2009 07:00 PM

Looks like hornets to me, I am VERY scared!!!! They are MEAN in a bad way!!!

Once the visitors are removed, repaint the area sky blue. Sky blue, they will not re-build the nest.

slakjaw 07-11-2009 07:13 PM

Brake cleen kills them in under 5 seconds.

Tishabet 07-11-2009 07:16 PM

This shot is looking down from above on the top of the "roof" over the bay windows.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1247368424.jpg

nynor 07-11-2009 07:25 PM

those are honeybees. call a beekeeper. they may want the bees.

Tobra 07-11-2009 07:29 PM

Man Grant, that is a lot of bugs. I would imagine you might get some water damage there. Can you hear them buzzing in the wall? Try doing the old drinking glass on the wall trick. That inside the wall thing, I don't know what you do, but it needs to be sealed up, maybe some flashing.

I always spray, leave the nest up until I don't see signs of life for a few days before taking it down.

fintstone 07-11-2009 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynor (Post 4772126)
those are honeybees. call a beekeeper. they may want the bees.

Tishabit
+1. Wall is full of honey...and lots of bees and at least one queen.

Tishabet 07-11-2009 07:51 PM

Just pulled a dead one from the windowsill... looks like you guys are right, fuzzy body and appears to be a bee, not a wasp. Some ex boyscout I am :rolleyes:

Is the approach for eradicating these guys the same? This location is four stories up, so I frankly don't want to open myself to the liability of inviting a beekeeper to access the area unless they have some sort of trick of which I am unaware...

RWebb 07-11-2009 08:27 PM

No

a beekeeper will lure them into a hive, then smoke out any stragglers

then... then you will have to tear the wall apart to get the honey & comb out

in a way it is not as bad as hornets...

WolfeMacleod 07-11-2009 08:43 PM

Honeybees are disappearing at high rates. Just dying off, vanishing.
Don't kill 'em.

Tishabet 07-11-2009 08:57 PM

I am in fact getting some water damage in that area, so I would like to seal the crack regardless of the presence of the bees. In theory I would be happy to cohabitate with the bees, but I don't see how this situation will work out for the both of us... it's a brick building, so I'm not sure about the feasibility of sealing and weatherproofing the area while still providing egress for a bee hive. Not looking forward to removing the honey and comb.

I have a good friend who is actually a local beekeeper, so I will contact him in the AM and see what he has to say.

126coupe, sorry for hijacking your thread!

Jim Bremner 07-11-2009 11:36 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1247384179.jpg


ok, I can't use this one too much!SmileWavy

Rick Lee 07-11-2009 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Bremner (Post 4772332)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1247384179.jpg


ok, I can't use this one too much!SmileWavy

Sometimes you gotta destroy the village in order to save it.

pavulon 07-12-2009 08:19 AM

Co-worker's father-in-law died last week as a direct result of a bee-sting (anaphylaxis...PEA...resuscitation....big neuro and end-organ hits...done)...very rare but bee careful!!

Tishabet 07-12-2009 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 4772202)
then... then you will have to tear the wall apart to get the honey & comb out

Did some reading up (haven't heard back from my buddy the beekeeper yet) and sounds like this is a critical step... from the sound of it the bees are no big deal, but their hive is. Apparently if you get rid of the bees and not the hive their hive is going to melt and start seeping honey through my walls and ceilings.

So no matter what I do with the bees themselves, I'm going to have to rip out and replace a bunch of sheet rock. Great :rolleyes:

WolfeMacleod 07-12-2009 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tishabet (Post 4772638)

So no matter what I do with the bees themselves, I'm going to have to rip out and replace a bunch of sheet rock. Great :rolleyes:

But at least you'll have honey :D

vash 07-12-2009 12:54 PM

in my area, some beekeepers will trap them for free. good luck with them. my neighbor had huge honey bee colony up in his home. they had them transfered to some beekeeper boxes in the backyards. i jog past them everyday, and everyone is living happily ever after. bees, we NEED them, without them we are in a world of hurt.

Ronbo 07-12-2009 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tishabet (Post 4772638)
Apparently if you get rid of the bees and not the hive their hive is going to melt and start seeping honey through my walls and ceilings.

This is true. It happened to my next door neighbor a couple of years ago.

Por_sha911 07-12-2009 06:17 PM

Call your insurance agent before you start.

GH85Carrera 07-13-2009 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tishabet (Post 4772638)
Did some reading up (haven't heard back from my buddy the beekeeper yet) and sounds like this is a critical step... from the sound of it the bees are no big deal, but their hive is. Apparently if you get rid of the bees and not the hive their hive is going to melt and start seeping honey through my walls and ceilings.

So no matter what I do with the bees themselves, I'm going to have to rip out and replace a bunch of sheet rock. Great :rolleyes:

I guess you live far enough north to be sure they are not Killer Bees.


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