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HHI944 03-14-2012 08:35 PM

Needless to say, I didn't find lectures terribly objectionable...

porsche4life 03-14-2012 08:36 PM

An Ochem lecture might make sense if you were toasted......


I had one lab teacher, that would lecture as long as the battery on his laptop would run the slideshow for.... Thank god it was only a 6cell....

Flieger 03-14-2012 08:37 PM

Hehehe. It turned out that the 3 hour "labs" for one class this quarter were really just more lecturing. He did give us a break halfway through. And the engineering labs have computers in them at every desk so you could just surf the net or do solidworks or check email if you were not interested in what he had to say. I used the time to do homework mostly.

Flieger 03-14-2012 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 6624258)
An Ochem lecture might make sense if you were toasted......


I had one lab teacher, that would lecture as long as the battery on his laptop would run the slideshow for.... Thank god it was only a 6cell....

Good thing he did not bring a charger like all my teachers do. Except for the guy who is stuck in 1969. Overhead projecter, nothing online, sends emails of scanned lecture notes. Everything is either handwritten originally or else typed on a typewriter. And he wanted hand sketches for the design project. Not full on drafting by hand, but still hand sketches.

HHI944 03-14-2012 08:40 PM

Ahhh, the memories of Structural Geology.......16 drunk students trying to figure out how to read a map in the middle of the Georgia woods......not to complete the assignment that had landed us there and was half our grade, but to find a major road and thus, convenience store, to buy more beer....
I was the king of collecting hand samples......they were usually about 200lbs and dislodged from about 20ft above where Doc was talking...
Seriously, 16 drunk southerners with hammers.....what could ever go wrong...

Flieger 03-14-2012 08:42 PM

Speaking of which, I had a general chem class (only one since I had AP chem credits) which had a little bit about what organic chemistry is, but I haven't had an organic chem class, and one is not required for ME majors. I don't even think it counts as an elective.

That was obviously in your pharm major days.

porsche4life 03-14-2012 08:42 PM

I think he knew if he brought a charger, most of us would have walked out, around the same time his battery would have died....

And yes, I have walked out on physics lectures, many of them... I would go to class, realize the prof was going to be rambling on again about a bunch of irrelevant BS, so I walked out....

porsche4life 03-14-2012 08:44 PM

Yes, I've had OChem 1 and 2, which followed up Gen Chem 1 and 2. No offense, but I'd bet the chem class you took, is the equivalent of the what we called the "baby" chem class.... It covered many broad topics, but not much in detail...

The Ochems sucked major, and the lab reports were long. I'm glad I'm done with lab sciences....

Flieger 03-14-2012 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HHI944 (Post 6624265)
Ahhh, the memories of Structural Geology.......16 drunk students trying to figure out how to read a map in the middle of the Georgia woods......not to complete the assignment that had landed us there and was half our grade, but to find a major road and thus, convenience store, to buy more beer....
I was the king of collecting hand samples......they were usually about 200lbs and dislodged from about 20ft above where Doc was talking...
Seriously, 16 drunk southerners with hammers.....what could ever go wrong...

I like Geology. I took an intro course (since I had no pre-reqs) and loved it. Turns out the professor is a motorcycle rider- Honda CBR currently, KTM enduro in the past, and rides his bicycle to school most every day. Which is impressive since he lives about 15 miles away in Morro Bay.

The coolest part is he is a big IMSA and F1 fan. He lived in Florida and went to the 24 and Sebring and such. We really hit it off well and still talk from time to time. Its amazing how similar we think, and we both love the outdoors, etc.

Flieger 03-14-2012 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 6624274)
Yes, I've had OChem 1 and 2, which followed up Gen Chem 1 and 2. No offense, but I'd bet the chem class you took, is the equivalent of the what we called the "baby" chem class.... It covered many broad topics, but not much in detail...

The Ochems sucked major, and the lab reports were long. I'm glad I'm done with lab sciences....

Yes, it was very basic. But a lot of the stuff we were supposed to know already I was not really clear on since I just had taken the AP test. I took the test by myself since there was no AP chem class at my HS and so I had to read ahead further than what we really covered in honors chem.

But hey, I passed both. :)

porsche4life 03-14-2012 08:50 PM

My Gen Chem labs instructor was fun.... When were playing with reactive metals and water, he would encourage larger amounts..... I nearly light the ceiling tiles on fire when that sodium popped.... :D

HHI944 03-14-2012 08:52 PM

We had two professor who taught geology......one was the ultimate nerd and boring as hell.....the other was awesome.......he'd always crack a beer and BS when we were in the field.....made things fun...

Flieger 03-14-2012 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 6624270)
I think he knew if he brought a charger, most of us would have walked out, around the same time his battery would have died....

And yes, I have walked out on physics lectures, many of them... I would go to class, realize the prof was going to be rambling on again about a bunch of irrelevant BS, so I walked out....

If he did not have homework due every day I think the class would be nearly empty.

Thing was that the stuff in lecture was not always in the book, especially the lab lectures, and that stuff was on the final. And sometimes he would say stuff that was not in notes that would be useful for the tests.

Still, a lot of people would turn in the homework and leave before class began.

I don't see people walk out unless a prof goes over the class end time. It's either sit there for the whole thing or else don't come to class.

I will admit I did not come to the last couple weeks of heat transfer because the subject (radiation) was so easy and I had done the homeworks way early. I realized midway through the quarter that her lectures had zero value whatsoever for tests and solving problems. Just struggling through the homeworks with the book and the solution manual answers (which she provided) was much more helpful.

The most frustrating thing was that many of the convection problems involved iteration since the "constant" properties change with temperature, so the answers could vary by like 20% and still be right. The soln maual did not usually bother to be very accurate.

Flieger 03-14-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 6624283)
My Gen Chem labs instructor was fun.... When were playing with reactive metals and water, he would encourage larger amounts..... I nearly light the ceiling tiles on fire when that sodium popped.... :D

Dang. We did not get to do that! :(

slodave 03-14-2012 08:58 PM

Pft. We did that in HS.

porsche4life 03-14-2012 08:58 PM

Dude, we burnt and blew up **** nearly weekly, got to do distillations, etc.... Was fun...

Ochem lab was cool just b/c of some of the stuff we got to work with. Hell we even created benzocaine, supposedly, if you tweaked the reagents, you could synthesize another slightly less legal -caine....

porsche4life 03-14-2012 09:00 PM

We did too dave, just a larger scale in college...

slodave 03-14-2012 09:01 PM

It was pretty large scale in HS. I don't recall craters in the asphalt around the college lab.

Flieger 03-14-2012 09:01 PM

I guess budget cutbacks...

My HS chem teacher went to Penn State or something. He talked about sneaking large amounts of sodium out of the lab and putting it in paint cans with a few holes in the lid. They threw them in the river and drove a good distance away to watch from a multi-story building. Said they could see a big plume of water when the things blew up.

I think there is a whole lot of exaggeration going on there though. :rolleyes:

slodave 03-14-2012 09:03 PM

I actually fed instructions for neat experiments to my HS teacher. He in turn, decided to amend what I said and sent about 5 kids to the hospital.


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