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island911 08-16-2009 10:47 PM

In case you didn't know, HempFest was going on in Seattle this weekend. ..and beyond, for some, I expect.

slodave 08-16-2009 10:52 PM

All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.

tb912 08-17-2009 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 4839384)
No way do I want my kid turning into a junky hippy on the sidewalk.

I'd rather see him/her put in prison, have his/her job and educational prospects disappear permanently, and/or gang-raped by hardened crimminals, than to try that stuff.

That's pretty sad. I hope you don't have kids.

andytheturtle 08-17-2009 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tb912 (Post 4840175)
That's pretty sad. I hope you don't have kids.

I am pretty sure that was sarcasm.;)

YTNUKLR 08-17-2009 11:35 AM

i love john70t's sarchasm.... ;)

MikeSid 08-17-2009 02:14 PM

In Seattle, you're more likely to get a citation for smoking a cigarette in a restaurant than a doobie on the street corner...assuming you're at least 30 feet from the entrance to a public building. :)

I've seen guys walking down the street in downtown Seattle smoking joints and blunts. Possession is not a big deal. Distribution...well...they take that one seriously.

TheMentat 08-17-2009 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 4839506)
How does one overdose on Marijuana? At a certain point, you get so stoned that you simply forget to smoke more. Or so I've heard.....


Eating it can certainly make you THINK you're gonna overdose... or so I've heard!

lane912 08-17-2009 04:07 PM

there has never been a death atributed to the over consumption of marijuana in the recorded history of humans on the planet

DARISC 08-17-2009 05:36 PM

Marijuana is the only drug which, if indulged in heavily over a period of time, can kill a person withdrawing "cold turkey".

No wait! That's alcohol, not marijuana.

Tobra 08-18-2009 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 4839777)
Any drug conviction in Texas = loss of CHL, forever. Unless it is legalized, I ain't doing it.

I believe the same is true for booze related charges, drunk driving, drunk and disorderly, that sort of thing.

Too many people making too much money off it being illegal. Didn't it used to be legal to have small amounts for personal use in Alaska? I seem to remember one of my brother's stoner friends in HS tell me that.

GH85Carrera 08-18-2009 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by lane912 (Post 4841496)
there has never been a death atributed to the over consumption of marijuana in the recorded history of humans on the planet

There is no way to prove a statement like that. Even if we all assume pot is safer than water someone had died because of it. There has to be some drivers that fell asleep while driving because of pot. Someone has over-consumed and drowned in the bathtub. The has to be at least one person that was just so stoned they fell off of something and died.

It may not be deadly but people have died from it. I would bet there is some unlucky person that is allergic to it and died from it.

http://alcoholism.about.com/b/2003/11/02/marijuana-causes-many-deaths-reported-as-accidents.htm

http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/death/cannabis.htm

The stuff is not posion but people die from all sorts of unusual things.

jwasbury 08-18-2009 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMentat (Post 4841395)
Eating it can certainly make you THINK you're gonna overdose... or so I've heard!

+1...Alice B Toklas Brownies can kick your @$$...or so I've heard.

lane912 08-18-2009 11:21 AM

Over consumption, not something done under the influence. If you get high and fall to your death, the ground killed you not the dope

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</div>There is no way to prove a statement like that. Even if we all assume pot is safer than water someone had died because of it. There has to be some drivers that fell asleep while driving because of pot. Someone has over-consumed and drowned in the bathtub. The has to be at least one person that was just so stoned they fell off of something and died. <br>
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It may not be deadly but people have died from it. I would bet there is some unlucky person that is allergic to it and died from it. <br>
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<a href="http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/death/cannabis.htm" target="_blank">http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/death/cannabis.htm</a><br>
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The stuff is not posion but people die from all sorts of unusual things.

lane912 08-18-2009 12:15 PM

THC has an extremely low toxicity and the amount that can enter the body through the consumption of cannabis plants poses no threat of death. In lab animal tests, scientists have had much difficulty administering a dosage of THC that is high enough to be lethal. It also appears that humans cannot die from ingesting too much THC, unless it were introduced into the body intravenously (See also: Intravenous Marijuana Syndrome).[citation needed] Indeed, a 1988 ruling from the United States Department of Justice concluded that "In practical terms, marijuana cannot induce a lethal response as a result of drug-related toxicity."[13]

According to the Merck Index,[14] the LD50 of THC (the dose which causes the death of 50% of individuals) is 1270 mg/kg for male rats and 730 mg/kg for female rats from oral assumption in sesame oil, and 42 mg/kg for rats from inhalation.[15]

The ratio of cannabis material required to produce a fatal overdose to the amount required to saturate cannabinoid receptors and cause intoxication is 40,000:1 [16][17]; consumption of such a large dose is virtually impossible. There had been no reported deaths or permanent injuries sustained as a result of a marijuana overdose.[18][19][20][21][22] However in 2009 it was reported in the United Kingdom that a man died from the acute affects of cannabis "possibly experiencing one of the toxic effects of cannabis - a fast heart rate and hyperventilating - [which] can lead to heart failure". The coroner recorded a verdict of "death due to misuse of drugs".[23] It is not known if the man had any underlying medical condtion. It is generally considered impossible to overdose on marijuana, as the user would certainly either fall asleep or otherwise become incapacitated from the effects of the drug before being able to consume enough THC to be mortally toxic. According to a 2006 United Kingdom government report, using cannabis is much less dangerous than tobacco, prescription drugs, and alcohol in social harms, physical harm, and addiction.[24] It was found in 2007 that while tobacco and cannabis smoke are quite similar, cannabis smoke contained higher amounts of ammonia, hydrogen cyanide, and nitrogen oxides, but lower levels of carcinogenic polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs).[25]. This study found that that directly inhaled cannabis smoke contained 20 times as much ammonia and 5 times as much hydrogen cyanide as tobacco smoke and compared the properties of both mainstream and sidestream (smoke emitted from a smouldering 'joint' or 'cone')[26] smoke. Sidestream cannabis smoke was found to contain higher concentrations of selected polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) than sidestream tobacco smoke[27].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_cannabis

m21sniper 08-18-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 4839192)
As a non smoker I can tell you pot STINKS as bad or worse than cigarettes. I know we can never wipe out either one. As long as the smokers keep the stink away from me I don't care what they smoke. Just don't drive stoned.

I hate it when some driver is smoking in traffic. The stench is not something I want to share.

I think pot smells like the nectar of the gods.

GH85Carrera 08-18-2009 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4843238)
I think pot smells like the nectar of the gods.

Nope, it is like setting a tire on fire with a pile of dead skunks. Cigarettes are even worse.

austin552 08-18-2009 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 4843269)
Nope, it is like setting a tire on fire with a pile of dead skunks..

You all must have dirt weed out there.
;)

lane912 08-18-2009 01:36 PM

+1

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m21sniper 08-18-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 4843269)
Nope, it is like setting a tire on fire with a pile of dead skunks. Cigarettes are even worse.

Sorry man, can't agree with you there.

I'm an ex smoker, usually we're the most militant, but the 'stink' of regular cigs dont even bother me.

Tobra 08-18-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by austin552 (Post 4843304)
You all must have dirt weed out there.
;)

Well he is in OK. They grow it to make rope there I believe, not quite the same strain pictured in the banner at the beginning of this thread, I would imagine.


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