Knocked down...again... - Page 3

Hugh R · 08-21-2009, 09:18 AM

Glad you're OK. I quit riding bicycles on the strets in EL Aye about 30 years ago, when I almost got killed twice in a few months. Nasty accident, my racing handle bar was showed in my sack, and came out around my navel. Lost a nut and a few feet of small intestine, and I was rushed to St. Johns in Santa Monica (happend in SaMO). I don't remember it but was told I was given the Last Rites.

fxeditor · fxeditor's Garage

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Originally Posted by dd74

Let's do the Rose Bowl Thurs. night. Hella' fun!

I'll have to wait until I get back in town the week after next but then your on! Maybe we should start up a Pelican Parts cycle club!

Michael

m21sniper · 08-21-2009, 09:20 AM

Well it's why i used the term. :-P

fxeditor · fxeditor's Garage

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Originally Posted by look 171

10:30am? Are you a strong rider? I need to start riding again. I have been out of anytype of riding for a 5-6 years now. I might catch you out there next week and suck some wheel.

Please come and join me! I am not nearly as strong as I'd like to be but I'm getting better every day I tackle those hills. We can try and meet up with dd74 and get our butts kicked!

I like the fact that there is safety in numbers.

Michael

Heel n Toe · 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by WilsonTC

So, it appears this was a case of two classic d-bags crossing paths...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/videobeta/watch/?watch=162e1880-1fb7-4488-80b4-25d311cd159c&src=front

I don't think you can pin the d-bag moniker on the Lexus driver at all.

You didn't miss the fact that the video showed there was a bike lane, did you?

If cyclists wanna get out and campaign for bike lanes and "their rights," they better be sure they use the frickin' bike lane and stop obstructing traffic.

It's not the Tour de France, guys.

island911 · 08-21-2009, 09:40 AM

safety in numbers.

WilsonTC · 08-21-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Heel n Toe

I don't think you can pin the d-bag moniker on the Lexus driver at all.

You didn't miss the fact that the video showed there was a bike lane, did you?

If cyclists wanna get out and campaign for bike lanes and "their rights," they better be sure they use the frickin' bike lane and stop obstructing traffic.

It's not the Tour de France, guys.

Oh, trust me, they're both d-bags (cyclist & Lexus driver). I see both every single day. The "Lexus" drivers think they own the road as do the bicyclists. To see the two collide, as in this case, is priceless.

m21sniper · 08-21-2009, 09:53 AM

Seriously dudes, what's with the GAY spandex outfits?

RPKESQ · 08-21-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper

Seriously dudes, what's with the GAY spandex outfits?

Just to entice you.

WilsonTC · 08-21-2009, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper

Seriously dudes, what's with the GAY spandex outfits?

Well, the right clothing wicks away perspiration. There's nothing worse than a soaking-wet shirt sticking to your back. And the shorts prevent chafing. Nut-rash sucks!

That being said, it's no different than the "costumes" Harley riders wear, yes?

Heel n Toe · 08-21-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WilsonTC

Oh, trust me, they're both d-bags (cyclist & Lexus driver). I see both every single day. The "Lexus" drivers think they own the road as do the bicyclists. To see the two collide, as in this case, is priceless.

If they're both d-bags, the cyclists were the worst of the two by far.

And nothing changes the fact that the cyclists should've been in the bike lane.

m21sniper · 08-21-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by heel n toe

and nothing changes the fact that the cyclists should've been in the bike lane.

+1

WilsonTC · 08-21-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Heel n Toe

If they're both d-bags, the cyclists were the worst of the two by far.

And nothing changes the fact that the cyclists should've been in the bike lane.

True, true. The bicyclists regularly flaunt the law and ride 3 or 4 abreast, holding up traffic. FL law also states, regardless of the bicyclists position on the road, you must leave 3' space when passing them. So, on a busy two-lane road like A1A in this case, you can be stuck behind the cyclists for quite a long time.

So...bicyclists riding in a pack, blocking the traffic lane = d-bags.

Old Boca (ethnicity withheld) Lexus driver, too impatient to wait (regardless of the situation, you can't mow down people) = d-bag.

Win-win, no?

m21sniper · 08-21-2009, 10:14 AM

If i was a cop i'd have a serious hard on for bicyclists. I hate those militant nazi spandex wearing pack riders, and i've never even had a run in with them.

LOL.

Heel n Toe · 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WilsonTC

So...anarchist narcissistic bicyclists riding in a pack, blocking the traffic lane in an attempt to feel powerful instead of using the bike lane = huge d-bags who caused the whole incident.

(Age and ethnicity irrelevant to the discussion) Lexus driver, impatient, and justifiably so (who tapped his horn to give the aforementioned huge d-bags an opportunity to do the right thing, which they unanimously ignored because they are too narcissistic, didn't mow down any of them) = not that much of a d-bag by comparison.

Win-win, no?

Fixed it for you.

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In CA, bicycles are considered vehicles and have just as much right to the ENTIRE lane as cars do.

That said, I ride as far to the right as possible, and always wear really bright clothes. As for the "spandex", the jerseys are usually a wicking fabric that dries quickly and they have pockets in the back for carrying jacket, food, etc, the shorts stay in one place and are padded. Doing a couple of hours in the saddle with the wrong shorts is not pleasant.

I've started riding again, been doing bits os Sepulveda but find it pretty terrifying during evening commute. I'm moving to SM and I'll have a lot quicker access to decent streets and PCH to ride.

There is a limit to how far right one can ride. If there are parked cars I leave enough room so that if someone decides to open their door I don't go boom. Also there tends to be a lot of crap (broken glass, metal, etc) in the gutters so you need to stay clear of that as well.

I used to do Tu/Th at the bowl back in the early 90s. I'm too old for that crap these days, and if I go down like I did then it'll take too long to heal

Dottore · 08-21-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper

If i was a cop i'd have a serious hard on for bicyclists. I hate those militant nazi spandex wearing pack riders, and i've never even had a run in with them.

I agree with you here. They're a serious traffic hazard. I think we should send them all to France where they belong.

dd74 · 08-21-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fxeditor

I'll have to wait until I get back in town the week after next but then your on! Maybe we should start up a Pelican Parts cycle club!

Michael

I do about seven laps, then hit the hills to tease myself with all the houses I can't afford. Cal Tech is sometimes there with their team. They're some freakin' fast rocket scientists.

It's the Specialized guys you have to watch out for. When they're in the group, it's game over. Once a Specialized team racer on a mountain bike set the pace -- on a hard-tail mountain bike with knobbed tires.

He sounded like a 4wd truck with off road rubber. It was cool.

As far as the club, sure! That big Pelican mascot would make for an eye-catching jersey.
Wayne Dempsey? Are you reading this? Free advertising!

dd74 · 08-21-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by island911

safety in numbers.

It's the risk one runs...

look 171 · 08-21-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dd74

Thanks for the offer with the wheels, Jeff. I'm taking them to Bicycle John's. Don built the bike, so he knows the components. Plus who knows what's involved with them - they're hand-built and weigh 1400 grams as a pair. I may unload them as I flex the rims on sprints and steep climbs which does me no good. Maybe I need heavier/stronger rims. I can take the penalty as the bike weighs about 18 to 19 lbs.

Rose Bowl -- yeah, I've been dabbling. Damn Cat 1s keep showing up and setting pace, which is just fuvcked for all others. I'm lucky if I can stay on for two laps. The trick is to start with those guys and not lose the peloton. If you can suck wheel and lessen energy loss by not getting into the wind, you're good. Downside is you don't get a workout by any means by drafting for seven to ten laps. If you want to work, just pedal on your own, or get in a small two-three man pace line.

Montrose - everyone's been telling me to check it out. My climbing's improving. I owe part of that to the 42-23 I've been working out with.

cat 1 riders are national riders. Is it still that way in the USCF rule book? Cat 1 allows you to ride national races. If you are not too strong, the Bowl ride will make you strong just sucking wheels. hang on for two laps and latch back on the next time around. Keep on doing it and get some long miles in on the weekend and you should see inprovment in 2 months.

I had built many of "race wheels" over the years, by hand. I really like a mid weight set for general riding and training. 3X straight guage wheel is great for training. I like to take guys over rough roads and shake em' up a little if they want to follow my wheel and not have worry about screwing up my race set. Not I just ride ksyrium. strong set of wheels. I really like them.

For the Montrose ride, you need a 52or 53ring for the climb. Its all power climb. a 42 ring will spit you the back so fast you wouldn't know what hit you. They are not really climbs like Trash Truck Hill, but a bunch of hills around neighborhoods. The killer is the last climb up to Sierra Marde. No little ring there, but by then, you are really beat after 40 miles of hard riding. BTW, there's ling loop and the short loop. You are doing these hills with a 53x17 gear. You will not need a 23 or 21 tooth gear on that ride. On the flats,you are spinning 53x 15s. Maybe we can get in better shape and go do the Montrose ride. I really need to ride.