ferrari to run 3 cars, with schumi in one

[sammyg2]

EDIT: oops, meant to have the title say 3 cars, not 2. Moderators? little help?

Cool is all I can say, and that I bet baddriver (badour) isn't in one of them. How bad can a test driver be? That guy is slower than an immigrant in a crosswalk.

Ferrari reiterate desire to put Schumi in third car
Saturday 29th August 2009

Ferrari have reiterated their desire to have three cars instead of two per team next season - and to put Michael Schumacher in the third car.

Schumacher came close to coming out of retirement in the build-up to the Valencia GP after Ferrari announced that he would replace the injured Felipe Massa.

However, an injury of his own forced Schumacher to call off his comeback, leaving many fans as well as current drivers disappointed.

Ferrari, though, are still keen for the German to return to racing, pushing for the FIA to change the rules to allow teams to each run three cars.

"It is correct to say that, if everything is fine, why not see him (Schumacher) in one of our cars?" Ferrari team boss Stefano Domenicali told the Times newspaper.

"It is true we are pushing (for three cars instead of two). We feel it is for the benefit of Formula One and it is better to make sure the biggest teams have three cars because that's what people want.

"With all respect to the smaller teams, the value of Formula One is to have good drivers, great personalities, in good cars and with a great brand."

[porsche4life]

I don't see why there is a limit. If Ferrari wants to run 3 let em.

[bell]

As long as they are restricted to a single pit spot during the race let them run 4
I say yea.....more cars and talent on the track will certainly make it more entertaining and unpredictable......like todays qualifying at spa

[Jims5543]

Originally Posted by bell

As long as they are restricted to a single pit spot during the race let them run 4
I say yea.....more cars and talent on the track will certainly make it more entertaining and unpredictable......like todays qualifying at spa

Good point! Next years rules may make the races either fascinating or boring as hell. I am not sure which.

I know Ferrari announced they stopped development on the F60 and are already working on the 2010 car so hopefully they come out swinging next year with 6 cars and drivers. Someone will eventually win that way.

[imcarthur]

They have asked if they can run 3. FOTA has to agree in an upcoming meeting @ Monza.

Ian

[herr_oberst]

Pre-qualifying again?

[svandamme]

it's one way to overcome the "no testing during the season" rule.

2 Cars for the competition
1 car to try out things (and potentially even more team strategy tricks)

[sammyg2]

I guess it could affect the constructor's championship, having three cars would give them an advantage over other constructors.
Probably won't fly.

[Monza_dh]

Montreal is on the prelim calender as of the other day, cant wait for it!

Canada registers on 2010 provisional calendar
Saturday 29th August 2009


The Canadian Grand Prix is provisionally scheduled to return to the Formula One calendar next season.


The 2010 dates have been circulated to the teams, with the Montreal event currently set for June 6, although the calendar is not due to be confirmed until October.


The Canadian race, along with the British Grand Prix at Donington Park, are still only speculative at present given the doubts that surround them.


Canada missed out this year for financial reasons, and while talks are ongoing with F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone, there are no guarantees.


The British round currently has a July 11 slot, the same day as football's World Cup final. However, it remains unclear whether the track will be ready in time due to ongoing construction.


Silverstone, who seemingly staged their last British race in July, have announced they are ready to step in should Donington Park fail to meet their obligations.


On the 18-race schedule, Bahrain will now host the season opener on March 14, with Australia second on the list for time-zone reasons.


The Melbourne race became a twilight event this year, starting at 5pm local time and 7am in the UK.


With the clocks Down Under and at home changing in late March, the 28th of that month is ideal for broadcasting purposes across Europe.


Other changes see Turkey moved from June to late April; Valencia switched from the searing heat of August to late June, with China now mid-September after being run in April this year.


Provisional calendar:
Mar 14 - Bahrain (Sakhir)
Mar 28 - Australia (Melbourne)
Apr 4 - Malaysia (Sepang)
Apr 25 - Turkey (Istanbul)
May 9 - Spain (Barcelona)
May 23 - Monaco (Monte Carlo)
Jun 6 - Canada (Montreal)
Jun 27 - Europe (Valencia)
Jul 11 - Great Britain (Donington Park)
Jul 25 - Germany (Hockenheim)
Aug 1 - Hungary (Budapest)
Aug 22 - Belgium (Spa-Francorchamps)
Sep 5 - Italy (Monza)
Sep 19 - China (Shanghai)
Sep 26 - Singapore (Singapore)
Oct 10 - Japan (Suzuka)
Oct 24 - Brazil (Interlagos)
Nov 7 - Abu Dhabi (Yas Marina)

[emcon5]

Originally Posted by imcarthur

They have asked if they can run 3. FOTA has to agree in an upcoming meeting @ Monza

It will never happen. There is no way in hell FOTA will allow it.

Running a third car is too much of an advantage, not only because of having three cars with the possibility of scoring points, but with the test ban (which is stoopid, btw) it gives them an extra car to try stuff out on without penalty.

[URY914]

I watched the entire race today and no one said anything about 3 F-cars next week.

[imcarthur]

They want to run them next year.

Ian

[URY914]

OK, I see that now but it will never be allowed. They are trying to keep the cost of F1 down not up.

[911pcars]

In defense of Badoer, he's not bad, just slower than the rest of the field. It's all relative. Many of us would be envious of his racing record.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luca_Badoer

His last competitive race was 11 years ago, and since then has tested the cars and car bits used by the likes of Schumacher, Raikonen, Irving, Barrachello, Massa, etc., and as many of us recall, Ferrari wasn't too shabby during that time period (6 F1 drivier' championships, 8 constructors' championships). This season, no team was allowed to test between races, so Badour had even less opportunity to get up to speed with the current machine.

Thrusting an obviously out of tune test driver into the highest ranks of motor racing had to be payback for years of "toil" testing F1 cars ( as if testing F1 cars can be considered brutal employment. I can think of many worst jobs to do).

And the last two F1 circuits weren't really the ones to ease into the groove - Valencia and Spa-Francorchamps, the former very technical and the latter very high speed requiring, as SpeedTV announcer David Hobbs quipped, "Very large attachments."

I think payback is complete and Ferrari will now have their pick of drivers to fill in for Massa the rest of the season. Not sure there's a healthy supply of qualified drivers. Schumacher may not be fully mended from his accident - he was option A over Badoer initially. Fischisella is a likely call, but Force India might play hardball with either Fisi or Ferrrari, and with Fisi's nice 2nd today in a much improved car, he might decide to stay and play the role of spoiler and team points gatherer until season's end where Raikonen is rumored to be leaving (or not). This in turn could provide the ride Fisi so covets (or not).

But who knows? The funny season would seem to begin much earlier this year because of the circumstances with the Scuderia.

Sherwood

[Geronimo '74]

Originally Posted by 911pcars

In defense of Badoer, he's not bad, just slower than the rest of the field. It's all relative. Many of us would be envious of his racing record.

+1!

Gimme half this guy's driving skills, I'd be a happy man.

[911pcars]

Originally Posted by Geronimo '74

+1!

Gimme half this guy's driving skills, I'd be a happy man.

Did I mention he's got a great job too?

"....and has probably driven more kilometres in a Ferrari Formula One car than any other Italian in history. "

Only Italian?

Sherwood

[McLovin]

I said it before in the other threads, and I'll say it again.

Schumacher will never race in F1 again. Ever.

All of this is being done for publicity only. Even if he is somehow "scheduled" to race, something will ALWAYS magically "come up" at the last minute, and it won't happen.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by Geronimo '74

+1!

Gimme half this guy's driving skills, I'd be a happy man.

Don't sell yourself short. You are already good enough to finish last, get lapped, or spin out and crash an F1 car.

Granted he's a much better race car driver than I ever was or ever will be, but as an F1 driver he sucks big time.

[911pcars]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

Don't sell yourself short. You are already good enough to finish last, get lapped, or spin out and crash an F1 car.

Granted he's a much better race car driver than I ever was or ever will be, but as an F1 driver he sucks big time.

Why the hard on for Badoer? Are you announcing breaking news? It was a two-race payback for a loyal and valued employee. Ferrari is finished this year - no run for the gold in sight. They and Badoer move on, so should you.

BTW, join the 99.99% of the world's population who would suck as an F1 driver.

Sherwood

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by 911pcars

BTW, join the 99.99% of the world's population who would suck as an F1 driver.

Sherwood

+1

Put yourself in his place; You are driving THE most famous F1 car on the planet at two of the hardest tracks the circus goes to, and you know you no longer have the skills to drive at 10/10ths. You are going to be last and you know it. I don't think I would put myself in that position, but he did. For someone who is apparently pretty shy and reserved, not to mention somewhat emotional, I think what he did takes a lot of nerve, and I thought he did fine. Yeah, he cost Ferrari some points, but did you ever think that maybe he was testing parts for next year? I never heard that idea broached during any of the telecasts, so if he was, and he flew under the radar, then good for him and good for Ferrari. (and, no, I'm not a Ferrari fanboy)