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Originally Posted by lowyder993s (Post 4875453)

Makes me glad to know I'm on the other side of the argument as a hunter and conservationist.

Yep! Same here!

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Or maybe you can't imagine being someone who lost a family member on 9/11/2001 and seeing that ad.

Actually I can imagine that, just as I can imagine losing a family member to alcoholism and seeing people on a BBS talk about drinking all night, or lost a cousin to AIDS and hearing a gay-bashing AIDS joke, or if I lost a son to a street racing collision and saw a hot rod peeling out, or lost a spouse to bee stings and then watched killer bees treated humorously in a commercial, or lost a grandmother in a concentration camp and see a guy polishing his Porsche, and so on and so on. I think it could be painful.

9/11 has become a sacred untouchable event in American history. People die tragically all the time, but this one is special in a strange way - instant outrage is encouraged. People seem to be generally outraged and enjoy in a perverse way the acceptable trigger points to let that general rage out, even though the events did not directly affect the raging man. The events of 9/11 have been blessed as an acceptable trigger point. Does the expression of outrage do anything more than confirm we belong to the group labeled "American"?

Every one of the 3000 deceased on 9/11 was a martyr to what, the American way? The deceased were people who went to work and died and left the lives of those who loved and depended on them. Coal miners do that. Soldiers do that. Firemen do that. Fishermen do that. Ordinary people do that every day.

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 4876252)

Tasteless. But accurate, and the probably the only way Americans could possibly digest the reality of information.

While the numbers may be accurate, they are pointless, since it compares two completely unrelated statistics to try to prove a third unconnected point.
It is NOT the only way Americans could digest the reality of information.

Further - it almost implies that the US had something to do with the tsunami and the deaths which occurred in that tragedy.

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-Yes, it's true: The last remaining Amazon rainforests are being slashed-and-burned at an expotential rate.
The area is know to contain most of the genetic diversity on earth. Diversity that can be used scientifically for research by future generations....like your children or grand-children.

OK then - wouldn't a picture of a bunch of airplanes aimed at the folks who are destroying the rainforests? Wouldn't that be a more appropriate graphic?

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-Yes, it's true: The majority of remaining fish in the oceans are becoming scarce. Even Cod supplies, once considered a throw-back" species, is now limited.
Go ahead and find out what decent tuna for sushi costs on the main Tokyo market.

OK then - wouldn't a picture of a bunch of airplanes aimed at fishing boats who are exploiting the seas be a more appropriate graphic?

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-Yes, it's true: that without a continuous food supply, humans(like rats) will turn on one another.

OK then - wouldn't a picture of a starving child or something related to a continuous food supply be a more appropriate graphic?

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Care to refute any of the above?

Yes - I just did.

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To keep this out of PARF, we won't talk about "purposfuly destroying God's creations"......

OK - and I won't talk about how the terrorists on 9/11 purposefully destroyed God's creations either.

Have a nice day!
-Z-man.

Z, I didn't notice the Tsunami print in the corner. Yes, you're right. It's a little strange for a wildlife organization to use a tsunami connection.

What it should have said probably should have been "the last remaining species are under attack...blah blah....".

A tastless, and random ad, but awareness of finite resources is still needed for humanity to survive for another hundred milenium into the future.