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carnutzzz 10-09-2009 12:39 PM

These threads are always annoying because the responses suggested can be pretty unrealistic when faced with a real situation- and can actually INCREASE your chances of getting into trouble. Those who have dealt with Georgia Troopers know what I'm talking about.

Here is how I recommend dealing with a pullover. Maybe a real attorney can verify this approach:

When you first see the cop behind you- acknowledge them with a wave. Then put on your signal, and proceed to a good pullover spot that's safe for the both of you and preferably well lit. Put down all windows, turn off engine, turn interior lights on if at night. Don't light a cigarette or any of that BS. Make the cop feel safe. Do not produce any docs until asked. Do not offer that you have a firearm- unless it will become visible when you reach for documentation.

For these questions, answer as such:

Do you know why I stopped you? "No sir I do not."

Do you know how fast you were going? "Yes sir I believe I was obeying the posted limit of xx mph".

For any of these questions:

Is there anything in this car I need to know about?

Do you mind if I have a look around?

Have you had anything to drink tonight?

"It sounds like you are performing an investigation and not performing a field interrogation. As such may I assume that you have established probable cause?"

If he says no then I would ask if he has any other questions related to my ID or legal driving privilege, otherwise I would respectfully ask to be on my way.

If he says yes then I would ask what the probable cause is. If he answers then I would decline all further questions until legal representation is present.

Thoughts?

masraum 10-09-2009 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnutzzz (Post 4944267)
Do not offer that you have a firearm- unless it will become visible when you reach for documentation.
Thoughts?

In Texas, if you have a CHL, then you have to notify the police or your CHL will be revoked. You can carry a gun in your car concealed without a CHL. If you don't have one, then I assume the law would not apply.

I've actually heard that folks with CHL often get a warning rather than a ticket.

David 84 911 10-09-2009 05:57 PM

WHen he asks me do you know why I am pulling you over?

I answer yes, "sorry I didn't see you". They usually don't like that. Oh well, I sometimes do worse and say I thought the speed limit in Canada was only a suggestion !

If you have not since this it is hilareous
YouTube - Chris Rock's How Not To Get Arrested

RoninLB 10-09-2009 06:15 PM

Was riding to Ft LeJeune with a station wagon filled with marines who just did a tour in 'Nam. They had to be there for the morning roll call then they could immediately leave for a week off.

speeding wasn't an issue as they didn't give much of a crap about civilian protocol

when smoky pulled us over for doing 90+ he walks up to the wagon with his smoky the bear hat on

one guy riding in the back says "I'll take two cheeseburgers and a chocolate shake"

off we went to the judge's home. Outside his home on the grass was a big sign that read "Used TV tubes for sale"

GH85Carrera 10-10-2009 05:39 PM

I have not received a ticket since the 70s. I have only been stopped twice since and did not even receive a warning. Back when I was a teenager a police officer friend gave me simple but sound advice. Pull over at a safe spot, signal your intentions to pull over and turn off the engine. Keep your hands on the top of the steering wheel AT ALL TIMES. If it is dark, turn on the interior lights, and the emergency blinkers. All questions should be the answered yes sir, no sir, or I don't know sir. Do NOT move around in your car. When he asks for anything tell him you will need to get your wallet or registration from wherever you keep it. Simple logic should apply. If you were standing outside as a cop what would make you feel safer? Do not make fast moves, tell him your intentions before you do anything. The cop does not want a confrontation, that is just a lot of paperwork for him. He is in control, let him know you understand that.

m21sniper 10-10-2009 06:04 PM

If the cop didn't want a confrontation he wouldn't be pulling you over, he'd be hanging at the local donut shop or sleeping behind the cemetary.


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