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Noah930 10-15-2009 06:43 AM

My $0.02: Best thing in the world. Your life will be totally different and changed (some for good and some for bad), but my kids are the most fun thing in the world, IMO. But I also realize that it's not for everyone. Unfortunately there are some parents who don't realize the same thing, or realize it too late.

Pazuzu 10-15-2009 08:36 AM

We're both 36, I don't particularly want any, she's not so sure, but we've decided (at least I think we have...) that we are at the age when we will not so it. It would be 2 years of prepping and changing our lives, jobs and health before we could consider it, and neither of us will have a kid at age 38. Too risky for the kid.
Now, if my brother would just get on with having kids himself, then I'd be a fin, upstanding uncle.

LWJ 10-15-2009 09:01 AM

This is a question that only you can answer. Me? I wasn't so sure. My wife? No kids? No wife! She made it clear, that we WOULD have children. I considered the options and now we have three.

Regrets? Nope. They are fantastic. Truely the reason that I get up in the morning and go to work. Loud? Yes. Obnoxious? Yes. Do I love them with every fiber of my body? Yes. Do I yell at them? Yes.

I personally think most babies are ugly and don't care much for most other peoples kids. In fact, my wife's best friends kids particularly bug me. My kids? Fabulous.

The question that I like to ask is "what will your life look like should you live to your 80's" Will your actions have enhanced your travel or made you a bitter old person? Children or not, you need to live with your decisions. Both are fine.
Good luck.
Larry

DonDavis 10-15-2009 09:38 AM

I just LOVE it when some grumpy old ASS that openly admits disliking kids thumps their chest and says "This is how you do it. And your kids suck!" Then goes on to add the "world is screwed because of your kids".

You can't pay for that kind of insight. Gold, I tell you.

Just sayin'

mikester 10-15-2009 09:42 AM

Will, I think I was the the same way - I wouldn't call that reluctant. I was willing to do it but apprehensive since I did not know what 'it' really was.

I had my first at 31 and I too am irritated that I didn't start earlier and have more. I have 2 boys now and they are the best things that have ever happened to me next to my wife.

They are endlessly frustrating but I wouldn't change anything.

911Freak 10-15-2009 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by willtel (Post 4952904)
I'm just trying to get my head strait on this and want a little advice. I'm in my mid thirties and got married to a fantastic woman about a year ago. I knew when I popped the question that she wanted children but I have always been a little ambivalent about the thought of having children. I understand what it means to my wife so I'm willing to give it a shot but I will admit I am nervous about it. I've heard people say that they don't like any children but their own but this isn't really something you can test the waters on, it is all or nothing.

Was anyone else in a similar situation to myself that now has children? How did it work out for you?

I'm right in it with you as well.....

Just about to turn 40, already raised a child from another relationship (she is 18) and just got married last May... Like your situation, I knew my wife wanted a family and that most likely included us having a child together.... I would have been fine without another child. however, as I love my wife and in a healthy way put "us" above "me", together we are stronger then apart, and she waited a long time to get married, has a good paying professional career, her priorities are straight, is financially stable, and most importantly I know she'll be a great mother...

So, after a our wedding we started to "try". She thought being 40 it would take a while...well it didn't, my swimmers are Olympic quality :D
Now we are in our 4th month of pregnancy and there nerves are creeping into my head... But having been through this before I just remind myself; I knew what I was getting into, I married an amazing woman, we are blessed to be stable in this economy etc.

I basically tell myself to be strong and remember who I'm fighting for when the anxiety comes, she is counting on me.

It will all work out, keeping a positive mental attitude is paramount to keeping our family headed in the best direction for us.

It's natural to have anxiety when expecting such a big change, but with a strong and healthy marriage, together we will succeed.

I expect you will too.

Stay focused, allow yourself "moments", but don't dwell on them. Look at your beautiful wife and remember you are both in this together, she is counting on you and your strength through this life changing event it can be a blessing if you allow it to be. Remember the glue that will keep it together is the love and forgiveness you have for each other.

I also found talking openly with her on the subject helped a lot. I discovered I wasn't the only one who had reservations.

Sorry for being long winded


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Schumi 10-15-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cstreit (Post 4953104)


That is one awesome photo.

I wanna have kids so I have competition to kart against.

Noah930 10-15-2009 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LWJ (Post 4954325)
Regrets? Nope. They are fantastic. Truely the reason that I get up in the morning and go to work.

That good, huh? :p

widebody911 10-15-2009 12:42 PM

Whatever happened to "HebrewHomeBoy"?

Noah930 10-15-2009 12:44 PM

Too busy changing diapers to post.

coolngroovy 10-15-2009 08:18 PM

Have two.......you can race them!

HardDrive 10-15-2009 09:03 PM

Best thing that ever happened in my life. Changes you as a person, almost certainly for the better. Challenging and at times exhausting? Sure. But a tremendous source of joy, laughter and love.

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porsche4life 10-15-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Schumi (Post 4954522)
That is one awesome photo.

I wanna have kids so I have competition to kart against.

Prep a pair of karts and I'll meet you halfway... :D



I am mixed whether or not I will have kids when I settle down. It will be a while though... I love kids always have.... Problem is I am not sure I want to bring another life into such an unstable world....

notfarnow 10-16-2009 05:14 AM

Married in '05, but we wanted to wait until we had a kid... wanted everything to be PERFECT. My wife went back to school and got a new job. We paid down debt. Did work on the house. I got a promotion and a raise. We were ready! When she was pregnant last fall, we had everything all planned out... I was even approved at work to take 4months of parental leave.

And then I got laid off in February. Took the real estate course, got licensed 2 days before my daughter was born. Working 70+ hours a week to make a "go" of it while feeding and changing diapers all through the night. I get traction and start selling houses, and start getting commissions "banked" for the winter

Then the real estate company I work for folds, I lose the commissions and have to start from scratch in August. So, I start working 80+hrs a week to make up for the losses. Meanwhile my daughter is starting on solid foods, laughs every time I come in the room, and all she knows is that she is loved and lives in a happy home.

It's been a crazy 6 months. It's been tough as hell, actually. But ask me if I'd change anything...

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The Gaijin 10-16-2009 05:37 AM

There was a thread recently about high school reunions - and I said something about how many of my peers grew up to be "better people". Most of that, I think is because most of them are parents.

Christien 10-16-2009 07:54 AM

Wow, Jake, is she ever cute! I had that exact same bowl when I was his age :)

berettafan 10-16-2009 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Gaijin (Post 4955894)
There was a thread recently about high school reunions - and I said something about how many of my peers grew up to be "better people". Most of that, I think is because most of them are parents.

i think you are right.

rnln 10-16-2009 09:18 AM

Few years ago, I had similar feeling when I got married. Then similar feeling about having baby. I am not the type who want to be single all my life but always feel not ready before I hit it, but I am ok now. Actually, happy. You'll be ok. Hey, think about your boy sits on your driver's seat, holds your steering wheel, and asks you to teach him to drive when he grow up ;)

JeremyD 10-16-2009 10:28 AM

The only thing I am reluctant about is when he waxes me on video games.

Baby making sex is the best - you have that whole new level of danger, importance, joy and fear all rolled into one.

Christien 10-16-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JeremyD (Post 4956469)
Baby making sex is the best - you have that whole new level of danger, importance, joy and fear all rolled into one.

+ a million! Too bad it doesn't last very long, and it'll be the last you'll have for months! :(

berettafan 10-16-2009 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JeremyD (Post 4956469)
Baby making sex is the best - you have that whole new level of danger, importance, joy and fear all rolled into one.



well....without getting too graphic there is also first few weeks post birth sex where the doc says to give the ol' happy place a break. slick willy wouldn't call it sex....but by my definition it most certainly is!

herr_oberst 10-16-2009 11:18 AM

Reluctant father? Mine. Because I see him in so many of my ways, I will never have kids.

willtel 04-08-2011 08:40 AM

Well, I am staring over the edge of the slippery slope. My wife is pregnant and the due date is August 28th. No one has mentioned any type of return policy if this doesn't work out...

pwd72s 04-08-2011 08:56 AM

You are off to an adventure...

Seahawk 04-08-2011 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 4953145)
Changed my life for the better and I wouldn't be where I am today if not for what I learned from (them).

Could not agree more. Interesting in that my daughter is finishing her first year in college, happy and doing very well, and my son will be a senior in HS next year...and the thought of NOT being a full time father is bittersweet at best. I love their freedom but will miss their daily presence, the noise, the sound of busy lives: them.

Willtel, the journey will soon not be about you. Saddle up, enjoy the ride. It is over far faster than you can imagine.

mossguy 04-08-2011 09:19 AM

What Paul and Paul said!

Rikao4 04-08-2011 09:31 AM

a toast to all you dads & soon to be muttering too self fathers...

Rika

syncroid 04-08-2011 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by willtel (Post 5951436)
Well, I am staring over the edge of the slippery slope. My wife is pregnant and the due date is August 28th. No one has mentioned any type of return policy if this doesn't work out...

You are begining the adventure of a life time. You won't regret it. My wife and I had our daughter 12.5 years ago. (I was 37 when she was born) I had my reservations about it before she was born and have no regrets now. She is the best thing that came into our lives.
Congratulations to you and your wife!

look 171 04-08-2011 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty Heap (Post 4953125)
I didn't mean to come across as a grumpy old fart in my first thread, and I know that's how 95% of you took it.

Back to the original post and the intent.

you're in your mid 30's, are you ready to still have kids in the house and putting them through college in your mid-late 50's and into your 60's?

Are you ready to be strapped down financially taking care of kids till they're 18?

And as the prior couple posters said before this, NO they don't come with a Warrenty, and I personally know SEVERAL people who wish they hadn't had kids.

They don't all come out of the oven perfect skin blue eyes and blonde hair.

Of 3 or 4 couples I know that I'd call close friends, all their kids have major mental/physical defects.

One child was born blind, 10% vision.

Another couples kid is seriously physically deformed, grunts or can't talk and will never walk nor use his hand, everywhere he goes is in a push cart that the parents have to give 110% of their time day and night, in the bathroom and shower and everywhere.

One other couple has to give their kids 12-15 different pills a day to keep mental issues in check, Same kid 17 year old girl has been pregnant twice, and wrecked at least 2 - 3 cars a year. They have to keep locks on the fridge and food cabinets and the parents lock their own bedroom door at night. Kids keep saying they hear voices and see shadows. Kicked out of several schools and bascially have no social skills and will never hold a normal job.

Downs Syndrome, maybe MS, mental / physical deformities, financial challenges, and other sacrifices.........yup, parenting is something to go into with your eyes wide open.

So............be ready for what-ever comes out of the womb. Could be heathy and fine, could be your worse nightmare that is in your care and responsibility for the next 18 years or the rest of your life.

Sure why not, roll the dice and see what happens. I often wish we would of had kids 20 years ago when I married my wife, but if you're in your mid 30's or like me in my mid 40's, no way I want to be going to a high school graduation when I'm in my 60's.

Just some things to think about, it's a no guaruntee situation.

there are so many that grow up to be upstanding, wonderful kids with good grades, caring, and want to be an upstanding citizens of our wonderful world.


OP,

I didn' have them until I was in my late 30s. They are my little buddies. My older boy (5 now) and I build things together. We even visit my construction job sites together sometimes. When you have your kid, hold them whenever you can. When they turn 3, it happens real fast, they don't want you to hold them any longer. They want to go and play. Holding them now takes a little effort to catch them. It takes even effort to get them to stay put so you can rap your arms around them just like when there were small.

You will be fine.

Jeff

peppy 04-08-2011 03:00 PM

Hold on a second I may change my mind. I took my 4yo to have new ear molds for his hearing aids and he lost it. There was nothing I could do he just screamed and cried like we were killing him. I had to hold him down ( that little turd can squirm).

KarlCarrera 04-08-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 5951478)

Willtel, the journey will soon not be about you. Saddle up, enjoy the ride. It is over far faster than you can imagine.

Three sentences. Perfect.

Karl
88 Targa

nostatic 04-08-2011 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willtel (Post 5951436)
No one has mentioned any type of return policy if this doesn't work out...

see, the kid isn't even born yet and he/she is teaching you life lessons...

campbellcj 04-09-2011 11:16 AM

I don't know if reluctant describes how I felt but certainly scared crapless...and also you naturally question your suitability for the job ahead.

We were married around 12 years before having our first child - he is now 9. While there are of course stressful and frustrating moments along with way, no question it has been a blessing and one of the greatest things in my life. About 1.5 years ago we adopted our daughter and she is a real smile-generator as well.

billybek 04-09-2011 11:29 AM

From the length of time from the original post to now, it looks like you at least got to poke some fun at her for a while....
Congrats! I was 44 when my little guy was born. I wouldn't trade it for anything... Well maybe a 959.... No, no no. I wouldn't trade it for anything.
One funny thing he said to me when I asked him what was going to happen if he kept doing something I asked him not to. He said "there is going to be trouble". I laughed so hard, I had tears streaming down my face! (he is three now)

BlueSkyJaunte 04-09-2011 01:08 PM

Do it. Early and often. Anyone with the intelligence to participate on a Porsche forum will only raise the average with their offspring.

For you soulless child-hating monsters, please feel free to continue to NOT procreate. That's a win-win situation for everyone.

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Jandrews 04-09-2011 04:21 PM

Kids in general are not that great.....YOUR kids, on the other hand, are simply the greatest experience you can ever have on this planet. Easy? No, but worth every minute.

I was 37 when I had my first, and like StomachMonkey, I wish I would have done it sooner.

JA

azasadny 04-09-2011 06:46 PM

We had out 1st child when my wife and I were both 29. she was ready for the family thing earlier than I was but after I came back from Desert Storm, we decided it was time. Now, our son is 19 and our daughter is 15. The days go by slowly, but the years fly by!! I'm thankful we have our kids!!

fastfredracing 04-09-2011 07:10 PM

Whatever fears and uncertianity you have right now, will be erased from your head the first time you lay eyes on your newborn child. I was blown away, and I felt my life change instantly at that moment. I have lived a good life, and chased most of me dreams, but none of them compare to the feeling of being a father. He is my best little buddy, and the most important thing in my life. You'll see. I no longer wonder what I am doing here, it has become very clear.

wdfifteen 04-09-2011 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willtel (Post 4952904)
I'm just trying to get my head strait on this and want a little advice. I'm in my mid thirties and got married to a fantastic woman about a year ago. I knew when I popped the question that she wanted children but I have always been a little ambivalent about the thought of having children. I understand what it means to my wife so I'm willing to give it a shot but I will admit I am nervous about it. I've heard people say that they don't like any children but their own but this isn't really something you can test the waters on, it is all or nothing.

Was anyone else in a similar situation to myself that now has children? How did it work out for you?

It's a heck of a roller coaster ride. More work, stress, and frustration than you can imagine. But you will be rewarded beyond anything you can imagine. I raised my stepson from the age of five. He wasn't my first priority, my relationship was initially with his mother, not him. But I discovered my relationship with her was strengthened by the time I spend with him, and I began to see it as a privilege to be given the chance to raise a young man. I taught him how to drive. How to tie a tie. Rebuild a VW engine. Shoot a gun. Treat a girl. Those are experiences I will treasure for the rest of my life. Now that he is an adult, to see his infectious grin, listen to the wit and charm in his voice, know that this incomparable human being loves me - me. I often ask why/how I was ever so blessed.
Now there are grandchildren and it just gets better.
A confession: In 1985 he asked to take his date to their prom in my Speedster. The lights weren't working and I was busy blah blah and I said no. To this day that is one of my biggest regrets. If I had it to do over i would have worked night and day so my son could take his date to the prom in my Porsche Speedster. Like I said, it's a roller coaster.

TheMentat 04-09-2011 08:32 PM

My wife was pregnant when this thread was started, and my daughter is now almost a year old. All I can say is wow. I feel like I squandered a lot of the spare time I had before. That being said, I don't regret the change one bit.


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