Originally Posted by Pazuzu
(Post 5027037)
So, because you watch a little "science-y" TV or read a poorly written book, you've now decided that physicists are con men and lying to the world? You're a piece of work...
Here, let me totally break this down for you:
1) I'm a idiot
Lets see...if someone looks at the world around them, thinks about it, questions it, does some experimenting, makes some logical conclusions, educates himself to be able to make more logical conclusions, then tries to understand the fullness of what comes out of that...is THAT you're definition of "idiot"???
2) I'm a con man:
Um...who am I conning? A con man is someone who lies and coerces someone else to gain something from them. Who am I coercing, and what am I gaining? In fact, which physicist sat there and told the world that "this is how it is, and because of that, you gotta give me money"? I've never heard of a physicist who thinks that everyone needs to understand these things, or forces said knowledge on anyone. How can such a person then be a "con man"? You have strange and disturbing definitions for words.
So, since I'm neither an idiot nor a con man, you need to find something else.
Now, lets go on to your unreasonable assumptions about "time".
1) Because you don't like the terms "warping of time" (which is actually "warping of spacetime", but hey, details, right? big deal...). So, you don't like that term, so you will declare thousands of people as idiots because YOU don't understand it. We'll ignore the fact that "warping of spacetime" is something used to help our minds kinda understand the larger actions going on, not that there is some actual fabric stretched across the Universe getting bent up. You are aware that all of those pictures in the books, and pretty graphics on Discovery Channel...those are all fake, right? They're not literal absolute descriptions of the Universe, right?
You do understand that, right?
Hmmm...
2) Do you have an actual problem with time, or with our ENUMERATING it, or with our acceptance that if you put one second after another second, you have 2 seconds, not 1.537 seconds? Should we call them glabbles, not seconds? Do you not like the idea that we can describe fully the position of something in our Universe using 3 orthogonal vectors, which define the Cartesian coordinate system? Do you not like the naming standard of "XYZ", or do you not like that you seem to think that by calling it "XYZ" that we have declared it the One and True Coordinate System? you do know that there are an infinite number of Cartesian coordinate systems, and we can use any of them at any time? We can even use OTHER coordinate systems...whenever we want! Seems that this is the opposite of your assumptions about us conning people about the Universe...
3) Do you think that the connection between space and time is wrong? Are speed, acceleration and velocity based in fallacy? Do you think that an object traveling along a flat table might travel a different distance in any two time ticks, since they're kinda all humanly constructed by us idiots and con men?
4) You keep talking about time, and how it's related to space...which tells me you have NO CLUE what you're talking about. Time is not a spacial dimension. It's not the fourth dimension. Now, the total package "ct", that is, time multiplied by the speed of light...that does have the characteristics of being a dimension (it's orthogonal to XYZ, and can be used to further delineate a specific singular point in 4-space), but it's never really USED as the 4th dimension, because it's not. However, if you read some simplistic magazine articles (as you obviously did), then you might *assume*, through ignorance, that time is the 4th dimension. You'd be wrong.
5) Do you dispute the concept of the "arrow of time" as well? Do you think that any process in the Universe could work just fine run backwards along the time vector? Do you call us idiots and con men for stating that such a thing is wrong, and that there is most definitely an arrow of time integrated into all of nature, and that almost nothing can actually be run backwards?
Basically, you don't have the information of experience to understand this, you then make rash and rude statements about others who DO have the information and experience to understand it. It'll be interesting to see how defensive you get now, and how random your statements are (you're posts have devolved in this thread).
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