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cantdrv55 11-22-2009 05:59 PM

Going to help my sis-in-law sign up with Match.com
 
She's had such bad luck with guys, I feel bad for her. Not been her perky self for some time now, even depressed lately. I think I've got her convinced that she should try online dating sites as she's not had luck on her own. She's a little too old for the club scene, the guys at her church are taken, no romantic prospects at work and the fellas at 24 Hr Fitness are too agressive and sleazy.

Guys, if you were single and in your forties or fifties, would you only be looking for hotties in their twenties and thirties? She's convinced her age is the limiting factor though she really doesn't look her 49 years. She's really cute, fit, nice body but just kinda short (4'11") even for a Pacific Islander/Asian.

How's Match.com? Is it safe? Is it expensive? Is there some sort of guarantee of how many dates she can find within a reasonable time frame?

Embraer 11-22-2009 06:01 PM

i would do eHarmony....

9dreizig 11-22-2009 06:04 PM

Like anything else on the internet you need to be a little street smart.. In general the quality is a little better than some of the free sights.
I am single in my 50s, hotties in the 20's are only looking for $$$ in the thirties they are looking for daddies for their kids or want kids.
I know quite a few couples that have met and married from match.com
Where is she located ?:D

vash 11-22-2009 06:07 PM

do i know this woman?

slow&rusty 11-22-2009 06:12 PM

Problems with Match:

1) Its the same set of men and women on there..today and 1 year from now...

2) Match only appeals to the visual (hence the pictures) as everyone appears to be perfect, write perfect profiles and have no past or present drama.

For example:
Perfect Male Profile: Great job, chisalled body, does not hate his ex-wife, can fix anything, will massage your feet everyday and will clean the spot behind the toilet, loves to slow dance to Luther VanDross and hold hands on a moonlit beach walk.

Perfect Female Profile: Great job, supermodel body, does not drink to hide emotions, does not hate her ex-hubby, loves a man who works on his cars, loves to slow dance to Luther VanDross and hold hands on a moonlit beach walk.

3) Match is the quick fix date site...relationships with staying power are not found there.

Worth a shot...as its cheap.

Yasin

NineOhOne 11-22-2009 06:13 PM

Oh...we need pics. Absolutely.

Why waste your $$$ on Match.com when you can hook her up here for free?

NineOhOne 11-22-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by slow&rusty (Post 5026426)
Perfect Male Profile: Great job, chiselled body, does not hate his ex-wife, can fix anything, will massage your feet everyday and will clean the spot behind the toilet, loves to slow dance to Luther VanDross and hold hands on a moonlit beach walk.

Of all the Match.com profiles to use as an example, you have to pick mine? :confused:

Steve Carlton 11-22-2009 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NineOhOne (Post 5026429)
Oh...we need pics. Absolutely.

Why waste your $$$ on Match.com when you can hook her up here for free?

Just what I was thinking. Does she mind guys just a tad shorter than her?

cantdrv55 11-22-2009 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 5026415)
do i know this woman?

I'm not sure if you've met her. She is sister-in-law number 2 of 4. She moved from HI to CA a couple of years ago. When you can come by to help me with my engine install, I'll be sure to invite her over so you an report back to the Pelicans if my assessment of her is accurate.

Racerbvd 11-22-2009 06:25 PM

Plenty of single guys here, post pix or ban...

9dreizig 11-22-2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cantdrv55 (Post 5026457)
I'm not sure if you've met her. She is sister-in-law number 2 of 4. She moved from HI to CA a couple of years ago. When you can come by to help me with my engine install, I'll be sure to invite her over so you an report back to the Pelicans if my assessment of her is accurate.

There's going to be an engine install AND a hot chick there?? Count me in!!! Vash can we pig hunt that day too ???

cantdrv55 11-22-2009 06:30 PM

Sorry no pics of her from me. She'll put them up on Match or eHarmony, whichever she chooses.

cantdrv55 11-22-2009 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 5026458)
Plenty of single guys here, post pix or ban...

Dude, I am not going to pimp her. If I'm going to introduce her to the fellas here, I have to be convinced they are good guys.

NineOhOne 11-22-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cantdrv55 (Post 5026471)
Dude, I am not going to pimp her. If I'm going to introduce her to the fellas here, I have to be convinced they are good guys.

OK, so just throw her to the wolves (like me) on Match.com. At least here, you'll know (within minutes) who treated her poorly. Then you can start a thread about the person (ala Jimmy Deering). ;)

P.S. - We're all good guys... http://www.smileygenerator.us/commun...ns/whistle.gif

onewhippedpuppy 11-22-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cantdrv55 (Post 5026471)
Dude, I am not going to pimp her. If I'm going to introduce her to the fellas here, I have to be convinced they are good guys.

A wise choice.:p

A friend of mine in his 20s tried out eHarmony. I looked at a few of the profiles that he was "matched" with, they all seemed pretty realistic and not too good to be true. He actually went on quite a few dates thanks to the site, but nothing lasting. Of course he's scared of commitment, so take it with a grain of salt. Personally it seemed like a feasible option.

NineOhOne 11-22-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 5026481)
A wise choice.:p

Hey, married guy...buzz off!

cantdrv55 11-22-2009 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NineOhOne (Post 5026487)
Hey, married guy...buzz off!

LOL!!!

I showed my wife (it's her older sis we are talking about) this thread and she's just cracking up.

NineOhOne 11-22-2009 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cantdrv55 (Post 5026511)
LOL!!!

I showed my wife (it's her older sis we are talking about)...

OK, then post pics of wife. That should give us a baseline.

NineOhOne 11-22-2009 07:02 PM

Here, better yet...just forward my pic to your sister-in-law:

http://www.bgg.co.kr/gallery/CALVIN_KLEIN_AD.JPG

9dreizig 11-22-2009 07:04 PM

901 dude you lose I'm pretty sure she's a boxer girl

NineOhOne 11-22-2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 9dreizig (Post 5026524)
901 dude you lose I'm pretty sure she's a boxer girl

This is the other pic I use in my profile:

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/mysp...03-gangsta.jpg

9dreizig 11-22-2009 07:10 PM

One of my favorite captions on Match.com was "you had me at restraining order" .. LOL
901 where are you ? I can usually use a wingman when I'm in the bay area..

NineOhOne 11-22-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 9dreizig (Post 5026539)
901 where are you ? I can usually use a wingman when I'm in the bay area..

I'm in the OC. But I'll be busy with Cantdrv55's sis-in-law...can't make it.

Dueller 11-22-2009 07:25 PM

OK..I'll fess up. Back in 2001, BEFORE I met my wife;), when I was in my early-mid 40's I tried Match.com for a few months. Not very expensive (I think $20-30 IIRC). Met a few interesting women...and a few psychos. Most were interested in casual/physical relationships...which wasn't a bad thing at that point in my life. I'll admit I wasn't interested in dating women my own age...but I also wasn't trying to hit on 20-somethings either. I lost interest fairly quickly and left to my own devices/social circles I had an active dating life.

As far as her age thing...yup she's sure to run into guys close to her age who are chasing younger women. And geezers who want to date her because to them she is a younger woman. But, there's some hope. Two of my closest friends don't follow the younger woman cliche. One is 55, never married (but a couple of long term relationships of 6-10 years), PhD in Mech Engineering, races cars, built his own airplane (VeryEZ), flies gliders, won national radio control helicopter championship, active in aviation, runs 5 miles a day, good looking, has all his hair (LOL). Takes women he dates with him to places like Oshkosh fly-in, Reno air races,etc. He dates women very close to his age...although theere are a women who are in their early 30's-40's after him all the time, he finds that that age iare still into child rearing phases and PO'd at their ex's. He meets most of the women he dates at....hold on now....ball room dancing classes. He goes out with some very attractive women that are in their 60's even.

Another friend is a private educational consultant...makes beaucoup bucks in contracting to train public school administrators/educators. Married once (15 years), no kids, fit, 6'1", looks a but like a younger Robert Redford without the facial moles. He's just turned 50 and refuses to go out with women younger than 45 becasue of the younger children issues. He's used Match.com but he only met fuch-buddies and women who he banished to the friend zone immediately. Meets most of his dating pool in work setting or thru mutual friends...I actually hooked him up with one of my clients who I was representing in a divorce. They dated for 6-8 months but broke it off (due to her over involvement with her childrnes lives) yet still remain friends.

I gues what I'm saying is not every guy wants to be a middle-aged stereotype of going after women much younger than they are. After a 10 year run of dating women 10-24 years younger than me, I fell in liove and married a woman only 4 years younger than me.

One thing piqued my interest...you say SIL hasn't had luck with the men she's dated recently. How so? At the risk of making an unfounded generality, I think people who complain of this have issues of their pown they are not being honest about...no disrespect or judgment re: SIL.

TechnoViking 11-22-2009 07:29 PM

I think the best dating site depends on where you live. In my area, I think Match is the best. The pay sites are better, IMO, as you weed out the complete losers that can't scrape $30 together, and of course, many of the the scammers that gravitate to the free sites.

There are several statistics floating around out there about the popularity of on line dating. Something like 30% of the US adult population and/or 60% of single people have either tired it or are currently on line. So it's pretty mainstream these days, and the various stigmas about dating on line seem to be fading. I have a coworker in Chicago that me her fiance on line.

Yes, I do see the same faces on there after trying it and coming back months later. But there are new faces, too. I think it's a revolving door. Maybe timing is everything :)

cantdrv55 11-22-2009 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NineOhOne (Post 5026562)
I'm in the OC. But I'll be busy with Cantdrv55's sis-in-law...can't make it.

You guys are killing me.

cantdrv55 11-22-2009 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dueller (Post 5026569)
One thing piqued my interest...you say SIL hasn't had luck with the men she's dated recently. How so? At the risk of making an unfounded generality, I think people who complain of this have issues of their pown they are not being honest about...no disrespect or judgment re: SIL.


She says she doesn't know how to go about attracting guys and dating anymore. She was married for a looong time.

Bob Goding 11-22-2009 07:47 PM

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Dueller 11-22-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cantdrv55 (Post 5026586)
She says she doesn't know how to go about attracting guys and dating anymore. She was married for a looong time.

OK...that's certainly understandable. I've seen that dilemma with some of the women my buddies go out with. There are some that are not so much bitter about failed marriages, but rather are still caught up into their former life. Or continue to define themselves as to who they became in the marriage. The really cool 40 and 50 something women they go out with were probably in the same boat. I think they have made an effort not so much to reinvent themselves or develop a contrived personna, but rather to move on past who they were in their prior relationship and become individuals they want to be. I know I'm not making much sense, but in my wife's case I didn't feel like I was involved with someone's ex-wife. Rather she was her own person and didn't have a lot of baggage/personality traits/preconceptions/etc arising out of that prior relationship....something you often see in women who are back on the dating scene after long term marriages.

Perhaps she needs to look at her outlook/expectations in relationships and define by what she wants and who she is without thinking of herself as someone who has forgotten how to attract men because she hasn't had to until the marriage ended. I mean she once was capable of that...she got a guy to marry her, didn't she? Like riding a bicycle for women, if ya know what I mean. Does that make sense?

cantdrv55 11-22-2009 08:01 PM

Yup, that makes sense. Thanks Jim.

crustychief 11-22-2009 08:17 PM

I used match and met the woman of my dreams. Honesty, integrity and being able to "travel" without "baggage" is the key. YMMVhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1258953454.jpg

vash 11-22-2009 08:19 PM

i have met this one.....she is having troubles meeting a decent guy??

there should be a feeding frenzy....nice woman. very attractive. tell her good luck, the hunt is the best part anyways.

Dueller 11-22-2009 08:20 PM

You know, this made me think about 2 women one of the guys went out with. Both were vibrant, attractive women that on the surface seemed to have it all together. Both really enjoyed their time with my buddy and he with them. Ultimately neither relationship panned out. Why? In both case the women were previously married to doctors: One a cardiologist, the other a orthodontist. Although my buddy makes a 6 figure income, the money didn't matter. They were DOCTOR'S WIVES...and neither could abandon seeking out that aspect of their prior relationships so they had a very narrow parameter of what was acceptable in a relationship.

On some levels I think women coming out of long term relationships continue to define themselves in some ways through their former spouses....and sometimes it is so ingrained it may be unconciuos and not necessarily healthy. I know of one client who continues to get involved with men who are the carbon copy of her ex-husband...a womanizing alchoholic. Yet she whines their are no good men to date and she continues to get shat upon.

I am not saying this about SIL, but she might consider why she is having such poor luck with men. Is it possible she's looking for a replacement relationship on some level that mirrors her prior one? For example, has she ever said of a failed relationship, he's just like my ex?

Dueller 11-22-2009 08:23 PM

Nice, Crusty....very nice. But I bet she don't put up with any shiat from you. And you like that;)

crustychief 11-22-2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dueller (Post 5026652)
Nice, Crusty....very nice. But I bet she don't put up with any shiat from you. And you like that;)

Partially correct! She did fly out to VA from San Diego to tour the east coast with me! We just had an awesome baby girl, Grace. Jordie does put up with some of my Man Shiat though.

Take a look at some of the settings of the pictures on Match, you can ferret out the liars quickly then get down to business, the ones with laundry baskets in the backgrounds or a pile of ciggy butts in the non smokers profile.

Schumi 11-22-2009 09:55 PM

crusty... I'm glad you met the one for you and all, but I feel obligated to point out that she has some sort of defect in the form of what appears to be a large black tumor on her head... fyi...


:) :) :)

Heel n Toe 11-22-2009 10:16 PM

cantdrv55, I eventually tried a few of those sites after my first wife died, but found match.com and a couple of others to be sort of the bottom of the barrel. Seems like there was another one with "match" in its name. Went on a couple of dates with one woman... liked her well enough, but it just didn't work for me.

I know several success stories that came out of eHarmony.com ...and based on what I saw on their site back when I was considering trying it... the survey they get you to fill out... I would say it's probably the one that lays the best, most intelligent groundwork and ends up producing the best "matches" on several levels.

But based on what you've said about her confidence level, I'd recommend she try one that I tried first... just as a warm up... with eventually going to eHarmony in mind. I would consider it "eHarmony Lite."

It's datingfaces.com and it has a relatively brief, basic set of questions/categories to fill out as you register, but they are very "telling" when you read a person's profile if they have filled them out with any degree of thought. And when browsing profiles, when a person puts very little thought into their profile, that tells you a lot about that person in itself. Unless it has changed, it starts out free with a limited set of functions you can access, then they charge a very reasonable fee after that... and expand the functions (re: communication, etc.) at that time.

I think it would help her explore who she is and what kind of guy she is looking for before she goes the eHarmony route.

I had several great dates with a superb woman I found at datingfaces.com, but things ended up not working out... and I eventually found my amazing sweetheart in real life. :)

Also, a word of advice... as far as I know, most sites let you set a distance factor in your searches. It's just common sense, IMO to set that at a distance one would be willing to travel at least every other weekend if you really click with a person and you want/need to spend time getting to really know them. It's just insanity to try to build a relationship when you can't look the person in the eye at least every coupla weeks.

People have made successful relationships progress to marriage while dealing with more distance and less frequent face time, but it's relatively rare from what I've heard.

Another bit of advice... once two people really connect online and on the phone, don't hesitate to meet... there's no sense "building a relationship" for several months, only to meet and find that you don't click well in person. And if the other person is making a lot of excuses and postponing plans to meet, that's an indicator something is wrong, and they need to be dropped.

cantdrv55 11-22-2009 10:40 PM

Good advice, John. Thanks.

competentone 11-23-2009 02:27 AM

I like some of Nathanial Branden's ideas about the subject:

http://www.amazon.com/Psychology-Romantic-Love-Anti-Romantic-Age/dp/1585426253/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258973826&sr=1-1

The first part of his book covering the "history" of romantic love is kind of dry, but the rest is pretty good.

Your sister-in-law may find some ideas in it she can relate to.

For "practical stuff" when meeting new people, I'd really recommend she read:

http://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Conversation-Lawrence-Edward-Bjornson/dp/0970971923/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258974592&sr=1-3


Looks like I may have just done the legwork on the Christmas shopping you might need to do for your sister-in-law...

Edit: Huh? We're not allowed to post hyperlinks to Amazon.com?

The two books that won't show are: Nathaniel Branden's The Psychology of Romantic Love and Secrets of Power Conversation, by Lawrence Edward Bjornson

billybek 11-23-2009 04:57 AM

I met my wife via "The Date".
I wasn't meeting anyone, let alone someone I wanted to spend time with. It seemed like a site where the people were a bit more serious about finding a relationship, not just hooking up.
There are a lot of weirdos out there, but you know pretty much right off the bat weather it will be something that is viable.
We now have a 21 month old boy and a relationship that works well.
YMMV....
Best of luck to your sister in law.


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