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Freaky lights over Norway, black hole or rocket?

Anyone else see this story coming out of Norway? Seems almost to perfect to be legit... but interesting! Watch one of the videos that shows it dissipating in to a black hole of nothing...

Mystery as spiral blue light display hovers above Norway | Mail Online

Those crazy Russkies

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Old 12-10-2009, 12:05 PM
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Weird... maybe that hardon collider thingy...
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I'm trying to understand how an errant Russian missle could create a spiral like that? It looks like something projected on clouds.
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Did Russian military spark Norway UFO frenzy? - CNN.com
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Missiles fail all the time, even ours. If it were in daytime it wouldn't have looked so mysterious:

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I put it in the same category as crop circles: signs from extraterrestrial intelligence. Call me crazy all you wish, but we are definitely not alone in space, and certainly not the most evolved either.
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I think that extended exposure is making some of those pics look alot cooler that what was realy happening.
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we are ... certainly not the most evolved either.
true dat!
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Looks projected to me - and not in the Jungian way either...
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I put it in the same category as crop circles: signs from extraterrestrial intelligence. Call me crazy all you wish, but we are definitely not alone in space, and certainly not the most evolved either.
OK, yer crazy.
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New Russian missile failure sparks UFO frenzy
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by Stuart Williams Stuart Williams – Thu Dec 10, 12:14 pm ET

MOSCOW (AFP) – Russia's new nuclear-capable missile suffered another failed test launch, the defence ministry said Thursday, solving the mystery of a spectacular plume of white light that appeared over Norway.

The Bulava missile was test-fired from the submarine Dmitry Donskoi in the White Sea early Wednesday but failed at the third stage, the defence ministry said in a statement.

The pre-dawn morning launch coincided with the appearance of an extraordinary light over northern Norway that captivated observers.

Images of the light that appeared in the sky above the Norwegian city of Tromso and elsewhere prompted explanations ranging from a meteor, northern lights, a failed missile or even a UFO.

Describing the latest failure of the Bulava as a major embarrassment for the military, leading Russian defence analyst Pavel Felgenhauer said the images were consistent with a missile failure.

"Such lights and clouds appear from time to time when a missile fails in the upper layers of the atmosphere and have been reported before," he told AFP.

"At least this failed test made some nice fireworks for the Norwegians," he joked.

The White Sea, which is the usual site for such missile tests by Russian submarines, lies close to Norway's own Arctic region.

This was the 12th test launch of the Bulava and the seventh time the firing has ended in failure, the Interfax news agency said.

The submarine-launched missile is central to Russia's plan to revamp its ageing weapons arsenal but is beset by development problems.

"The first two stages of the rocket worked but in the final and third stage there was a technical failure," the defence ministry said in a statement.

The statement said the problem was with the engine in the third stage, while in past launches the first stage had been faulty.

The problems with the Bulava have become an agonising issue for the defence ministry, which has ploughed a large proportion of its procurement budget into ensuring the missile becomes the key element of its rocket forces.

The previous failure in July forced the resignation of Yury Solomonov, the director of the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology which is responsible for developing the missile.

Felgenhauer said that it had dealt a serious blow to Russia's bid to maintain a credible nuclear deterrent.

"By the year 2030, Russia could lose its position as a global nuclear power if the problems are not solved. And it could be that these missiles will never fly properly.

"The Russian defence industry has disintegrated to such an extent that it simply cannot make such a complicated system work. Technology and expertise have been lost," he said.

The problems are also a major political embarrassment, coming as Russia negotiates with the United States the parameters of a new arms reduction treaty to replace the 1991 START accord.

The treaty expired on December 5, and despite intense negotiations the two sides have yet to agree the text of a new deal.

In a separate development, a successful test-firing took place of Russia's intercontinental surface-to-surface ballistic missile Topol RS-12M, news agencies quoted a statement from the strategic rocket forces as saying.

The missile -- introduced to the rocket forces before the fall of the Soviet Union -- was fired from the southern Russian region of Astrakhan and hit its target at a testing range in neighbouring Kazakhstan.

The Bulava, which can be equipped with up to 10 individually targeted nuclear warheads, has a maximum range of 8,000 kilometres (5,000 miles).

It is the sea-based version of the Topol-M, Russia's new surface-to-surface intercontinental missile, and designed to be launched from Moscow's newest Borei class of submarines.

Defence analysts say that a further headache for the military is that the new submarines are designed to be compatible with Bulava and if the new missile fails to work the vessels will be virtually useless.
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After looking at the video a few times, I see how it happened.

The only part that doesn't make sense, from the reports, is that the "blue spiral" came out afterwards.

I see it this way, the blue spiral was trail particle from the lanuch, where the missle was "cork-screwing", as the guidance system was trying to keep it on track. Seems like one of the rocket motors was stuck on high.

Afterwards, ground control sent signal to cur power to all motors. One stayed stuck on, on high. So now you have the remaining motor making the missle "summersault". As the missle summersaults, the exhuast blasts away from the missle. That exhuast continues to move away from the rocket. Since the rocket is summersaulting in a circle, the exhaust is expending in a curve. Like a grove in a record. The arm move linear, like the exhaust. But with the rocket summersaulting, the exhuast created what looks like a groove.

In fact, the cause might have been a leak in one of the tanks, instead of a stuck motor. Which would explain why it didn't shut off when commanded.

The rocket exhaust was high enough that either sunlight was hitting it, making the spiral show. The blue color from the corkscrew? Either we were seeing charged particles interact, or the color of the exhuast was blueish, until the "off" command was sent.
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by Stuart Williams Stuart Williams – Thu Dec 10, 12:14 pm ET

MOSCOW (AFP) – Russia's new nuclear-capable missile suffered another failed test launch, the defence ministry said Thursday, solving the mystery of a spectacular plume of white light that appeared over Norway...
SNIP

Sounds like a cover story for some UFO related activity.
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Isn't Tigers wife from Norway? Hmmm....coinsidence? I think not!!!
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I find this pattern quite similar to those that appear in crop circles:


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Aurel, the original video didn't appear that way. The photo you show looks like a time lapse shot.
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The video in the link looks just like that photo
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The ETs must have been in the area. Look at this big freaky pyramid over Moscow:


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