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bivenator 12-30-2009 12:02 PM

Engineers are more likely to be terrorists
 
I know that we have a few engineers on the board. You might want to monitor your peers closely.
Why do so many terrorists have engineering degrees? - By Benjamin Popper - Slate Magazine

red-beard 12-30-2009 12:16 PM

You don't want to piss-off Engineers. Seriously.

island911 12-30-2009 12:17 PM

Mechanical engineers design the physical world stuff, so yeah, of course we know the quickest path to make it fail.

red-beard 12-30-2009 12:20 PM

What is the difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil Engineers? Mechanical Engineers build weapon systems, Civil Engineers build targets.

red-beard 12-30-2009 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 5097111)
Mechanical engineers design the physical world stuff, so yeah, of course we know the quickest path to make it fail.

Actually, this is true for all engineers. Mech engineers are usually the most well rounded in their training. I expect a Civil Engineer would know better/quicker how to take down a bridge than I would. It doesn't mean I can't sit down and figure it out.

The same is true with electronic/electrical circuits. I Let the sparkies deal with those, but I can sit down and rough it out if nesessary.

Jim Richards 12-30-2009 12:28 PM

Humans are more likely to be terrorists. I know that we have a few humans on the board. You might want to monitor your peers closely.

Pazuzu 12-30-2009 12:31 PM

Engineers are always so PROUD of themselves, when it's physicists that allow them to do ANYTHING...

;)

red-beard 12-30-2009 12:38 PM

And you point is what?

;)

Pazuzu 12-30-2009 12:41 PM

If it wasn't for physicists, there would be no planes, no explosives, no nuclear arms race...

In other words, WE get to take all of the credit for everything, good and bad :p

island911 12-30-2009 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 5097165)
If it wasn't for physicists, there would be no planes, no explosives, no nuclear arms race...

In other words, WE get to take all of the credit for everything, good and bad :p

The Wright Brothers were Physicists?
... 80 years after the Wrights, Physicists were saying that it is impossible for bees to fly. hmmm....

...fireworks were invented by physicists?

"so PROUD of themselves" you say? :cool:

Pazuzu 12-30-2009 12:55 PM

Can you feel the thread segueing?

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 5097189)
The Wright Brothers were Physicists?
... 80 years after the Wrights, Physicists were saying that it is impossible for bees to fly. hmmm....

Hmmm...took a physicists to realize that there was an issue, and then to solve it. Same way they solved the human eye (not the biologists...) abd the same way that they solved energy transfer via chlorophyll (again...not the biologists...). Oh, and don't forget protein wrapping...as well as EVERYTHING ELSE!!! :D

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...fireworks were invented by physicists?
No...fireworks were invested by M.E.s in China, obviously. They got their degrees in the US then took the technology back with them. Duh!

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"so PROUD of themselves" you say? :cool:
How could I think such a thing?

onewhippedpuppy 12-30-2009 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 5097165)
If it wasn't for physicists, there would be no planes, no explosives, no nuclear arms race...

In other words, WE get to take all of the credit for everything, good and bad :p

By questioning my fellow engineers, you are first on my jihad list.:cool:

island911 12-30-2009 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 5097201)
No...fireworks were invested by M.E.s in China, obviously. They got their degrees in the US then took the technology back with them. Duh!

uuuuhhhmmm . ... ya forgot the green text.

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HISTORY OF FIREWORKS

Fireworks originated in China some 2,000 years ago. The most prevalent legend has it that fireworks were discovered or invented by accident by a Chinese cook working in a field kitchen who happened to mix charcoal, sulphur and saltpeter (all commonly found in the kitchen in those days). The mixture burned and when compressed in an enclosure (a bamboo tube), the mixture exploded.

Some sources say that the discovery of fireworks occurred about 2,000 years ago, and other sources place the discovery sometime during the 9th century during the Song dynasty (960-1279), although this could be confusion between the discovery of gunpowder by the cook and the invention of the firecracker.
And about those Wrights ...

IROC 12-30-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 5097165)
If it wasn't for physicists, there would be no planes, no explosives, no nuclear arms race...

In other words, WE get to take all of the credit for everything, good and bad :p

Without engineers, none of you guys' ideas would get off the drawing board. Physicists can't design worth a crap. :D

DARISC 12-30-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by IROC (Post 5097272)
Physicists can't design worth a crap. :D

But they can inform the designers/engineers how deep to dig the outhouse to avoid being splashed with same. :p

bivenator 12-30-2009 04:03 PM

Whoa, I had no idea a pissing match between physicists and engineers would break out when I posted the link. Quite entertaining.
Who makes the best terrorist?
Continue...

Shaun @ Tru6 12-30-2009 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bivenator (Post 5097566)
Whoa, I had no idea a pissing match between physicists and engineers would break out when I posted the link. Quite entertaining.
Who makes the best terrorist?
Continue...

Religious folk. all terrorists are inspired by religion.

DanielDudley 12-30-2009 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 5097596)
Religious folk. all terrorists are inspired by religion.

So there is a synergystic effect when you add an engineering degree ? Like crazy to the second power ? :D

Moses 12-30-2009 04:40 PM

I love attempting to explain medical issues to engineers. They are rigid, linear thinkers. The extraordinary variability of human physiologic response baffles and frustrates them.

I cracked up when Mike posted that he had charts and graphs documenting his infants bowel habits. Priceless!

A lot of my friends are engineers. Frightfully bright group of people.

Aurel 12-30-2009 04:49 PM

Chemists can make pretty good terrorists too. Or drug makers.

vash 12-30-2009 05:03 PM

i'm an engineer, and i would be a bad terrorist..as in no good.

i talk too much.

Moses 12-30-2009 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 5097660)
i'm an engineer, and i would be a bad terrorist..as in no good.

i talk too much.

That's a gift! Some of the most successful people I know are engineers with good social skills. The rock the world of high tech sales. They understand the technology and can explain the applications to customers. They can write their own ticket.

DARISC 12-30-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Moses (Post 5097625)
A lot of my friends are engineers. Frightfully bright group of people.

And a hygienic group as well.

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island911 12-30-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Moses (Post 5097625)
I love attempting to explain medical issues to engineers. They are rigid, linear thinkers.....

I was going to set you straight, but then I read this...
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Originally Posted by Moses (Post 5097670)
... with good social skills. The rock the world of high tech sales. They understand the technology and can explain the applications to customers. ....

I'm glad that you understand that it's not that we are linear thinkers --nothing could be further from the truth-- but rather, engineers have to 'dumb things down' for those with simple memorization jobs. :cool:

Aurel 12-30-2009 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 5097702)
I was going to set you straight, but then I read this...

I'm glad that you understand that it's not that we are linear thinkers --nothing could be further from the truth-- but rather, engineers have to 'dumb things down' for those with simple memorization jobs. :cool:

Yeah, and scientists have to invent, theorize, then reduce stuff to practice so that engineers can understand and build it :D.

MotoSook 12-30-2009 06:24 PM

Quote: it's not that we are linear thinkers --nothing could be further from the truth-- but rather, engineers have to 'dumb things down' for those with simple memorization jobs.-end quote

So true and so annoying, especially when the other person is too dumb to know the material will never set in with them. Then it's the engineer's fault for being a bad teacher or dumbing it down too much that it offends the dummy.

DARISC 12-30-2009 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 5097702)
...engineers have to 'dumb things down' for those with simple memorization jobs. :cool:

Without having memorized principles of physics as taught by physicists, engineer's would have no bits of physics knowledge to line up (oops - that implies linear thinking :eek:) and make work to satisfy the demands from their employers. :cool:

What do you call an engineer who works for a physicist?

Humble. :D

Where was it again that you got a degree in engineering?

speedracing944 12-30-2009 07:01 PM

It's all just a bunch of sociology majors riding on the coat tails of us mechanical engineers so they can get a paper published. What else would they do with their degrees?

Speedy:)

red-beard 12-30-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 5097660)
i'm an engineer, and i would be a bad terrorist..as in no good.

i talk too much.

You are a CIVIL engineer...

red-beard 12-30-2009 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Aurel (Post 5097780)
Yeah, and scientists have to invent, theorize, then reduce stuff to practice so that engineers can understand and build it :D.

Cost effectively...

If an engineer isn't thinking about the bottom line, he's a scientist...

red-beard 12-30-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Moses (Post 5097625)
I love attempting to explain medical issues to engineers. They are rigid, linear thinkers. The extraordinary variability of human physiologic response baffles and frustrates them.

It is far far worse when an engineer tries to work with psycholocigal responses.

"But wait, the last time I gave roses to a girl she loved it, why didn't it work this time?"

Sometimes when I've sked questions to a doctors and dentists I've had very baffled looks.

Dentist "thinks" I have a tooth with a crack in it. I ask her to use a dye penetrant and UV light to verify the crack. She has NO IDEA what I'm talking about.

With a doctor, when we were discussing reversal of a tubal ligation, he described how he would be re-attaching the tubes. I asked if he would be keeping them together and holding them straight and open with a form, inserted up the tube. He had no idea what I meant, until I drew a diagram, showing it.

So, yeah, engineers and doctors have "issues" with each other. BUT, we both have a common enemy...the lawyer.

RWebb 12-30-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Moses (Post 5097670)
...engineers with good social skills. ...



????:confused:

RWebb 12-30-2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Soukus (Post 5097796)
...

engineer

bad teacher

offends

dummy




just dumbing it down

RWebb 12-30-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 5097899)
...

Dentist "thinks" I have a tooth with a crack in it. I ask her to use a dye penetrant and UV light to verify the crack. She has NO IDEA what I'm talking about.

...


-- did she pick up what you were talking about eventually?

- maybe there is no such product (for teeth)?

serge944 12-31-2009 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Moses (Post 5097625)
I love attempting to explain medical issues to engineers. They are rigid, linear thinkers. The extraordinary variability of human physiologic response baffles and frustrates them.

I cracked up when Mike posted that he had charts and graphs documenting his infants bowel habits. Priceless!

A lot of my friends are engineers. Frightfully bright group of people.

I have a spreadsheet of all women I ever dated, with 10 categories, ranked from 1-10, ranging from attractiveness to wildness in the bedroom - all weighted for a final "compatibility" score (calculated automatically, of course).

Is that weird? ;)

red-beard 12-31-2009 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by serge944 (Post 5098150)
I have a spreadsheet of all women I ever dated, with 10 categories, ranked from 1-10, ranging from attractiveness to wildness in the bedroom - all weighted for a final "compatibility" score (calculated automatically, of course).

Is that weird? ;)

How's that working for you?

onewhippedpuppy 12-31-2009 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 5097899)
It is far far worse when an engineer tries to work with psycholocigal responses.

"But wait, the last time I gave roses to a girl she loved it, why didn't it work this time?"

Sometimes when I've sked questions to a doctors and dentists I've had very baffled looks.

Dentist "thinks" I have a tooth with a crack in it. I ask her to use a dye penetrant and UV light to verify the crack. She has NO IDEA what I'm talking about.

With a doctor, when we were discussing reversal of a tubal ligation, he described how he would be re-attaching the tubes. I asked if he would be keeping them together and holding them straight and open with a form, inserted up the tube. He had no idea what I meant, until I drew a diagram, showing it.

So, yeah, engineers and doctors have "issues" with each other. BUT, we both have a common enemy...the lawyer.

You asked them to magnaflux your teeth?!:D

Buckterrier 12-31-2009 04:45 AM

No dog in this fight but...What do engineers do? (Seeing if it can be answered) And don't cheat by looking at a dictionary!
I have never had an engineer be able to answer that question for me. Not even engineering students. If I was a professor it would be the first question asked to a new class. It would be the first question on every test. It would be the final thing I said to the students when they graduated.
8 simple words...

MotoSook 12-31-2009 05:17 AM

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DavidB911 12-31-2009 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckterrier (Post 5098262)
No dog in this fight but...What do engineers do?

Create/design a new product (that has a need) or make a current product better.


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