Forget the Ferrari I want the Cuda
 

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I love that car.

The guys at LMC do great work -- when I make my millions I will have them build me something fun.

That is awesome... Maybe those guys can build my Turbo 550-A6 when I get rich....


I still think I'd rather have the Enzo... I bet that cuda developed a brown stain on the seat at 208....

Achieving 208 with aerodynamics of a brick is impressive.

Great looking car, but no thanks.
In the short list of cars I'd actually WANT to do 200 in, that car wouldn't even make the top 100.
With 6,000 hours of build time and less than a week on the pavement, that thing is like a freshly graduated college student.....
Probably not the video to publish, but, with some further "real world" development it could be all sorted out.

all of you, and me ,would give a nut for that car :D

very nice cuda..... cheaper to maintain too than an Enzo :)

Not to diss that car, but:

Years ago I spent an afternoon at Otis Chandler's museum.
Among the hundreds of rare cars he had an original 1971 hemi convertible challenger, plum crazy purple with white interior.
Unrestored with 2000 miles on it. it looked as if it had just rolled off the showroom floor.

If I were to dream of the ultimate muscle car that would still be it.
Doing 70 mph in it would be more rewarding and thrilling than doing 200 in that GREEN Frankenstein.
And I'm a turbo junkie. I've had a turbo bug, a turbo 914, and a turbo 911.
Also a supercharged hemi flatbottom drag boat.
YMMV

I suspect that thing would be pretty awesome to drive. Also, what's not to like about classic looks, and handling and performance to back it up.

Still, the Enzo is probably a better car. I suspect I'd rather have a CGT than either one. And who knows, maybe something like a GT3RS or a street legal version of a GT3RSR would be pretty nice to drive more often.

If I were pushing 208 in that Cuda my balls would be in my mouth..

If ya ask me 85 is as good as 185...especially in an old piece of Detroit Iron...

you really have to appreciate the talent and experience that went into building that car.

Glen

Thanks for the clip. Nice way to spend a few minutes Friday night, and amazing. I love them both for different reasons. I think 200 in the Enzo might be less entertaining than in the Cuda'. Have to agree- "pushing a brick" and "appreciating the talent" really says alot. Those guys did a really good job. Wow

Karl
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When I'm travelling 200, I'd prefer being in an aircraft, thank you very much. Still, very impressive video...thanks!

Can't argue that. On a beautiful day

Karl
88 Targa

You can't turbo a 914.

why not?

You can turbocharge anything :D

Guys, did you watch the video? That Challenger walked that Enzo with ease in the straights.

Not even close.

I watched...twin turbo? 522 cubes? Stroker McGurk's theory is alive and well!

It would be so interesting to find out how much that Cuda cost to make. Probably close to the price of the Enzo.

Bingo!!!
Boy tha Enzo sounds sooo good.

For some who didn't listen to the whole thing, Cuda 208 mph, Enzo 218 mph (& probably the hood didn't lift 3" either). A big engine doesn't make it as good (performance-wise) as the latest stuff, takes a lot of development...

"There's no replacement for displacement!"

I SERIOUSLY doubt that.

I bet it costs less than 1/4 the price to make.

I watched, the Cuda was never pushed to it's limit.

It was never pushed to its mechanical limit... It came close to its aerodynamic limit... I bet much over 210 and that bad boy is a goner...


That ferrari didn't find its limit...

It is odd that they wouldn't put a more slippery nose on the 200+ MPH Cuda, to take advantage of it's massive power.

B/c if they got enough "slip" on that beast it would no longer look like a cuda...

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152mph @ 5,200 rpm on a 6,400 peak hp engine. I know that 200 takes a ton more hp. but the car was damn solid. I ran out of space to push faster. That was pulling up hill as well.

Math should be 187 mph with 6,400.

RPM was limited to 7k

I dig the 'cuda (would change the color)

Don't get me wrong I wouldn't turn down the Cuda... It needs a color change IMHO...

But if I was planning on north of 200... Well I'd rather have the Enzo

Unless you live close to a track and have special access how often will anyone get close to 200 ? For the most part it will be driven at less than 100 MPH 99.95 % of the time. Bottom line is both are great cars. For the money I would rather have a Porsche GT2. That will happen right after I invent my anti-gravity device.

Cost to build?

My Bro in Law drag races an 80's mustang with a 351 with a huge turbo. Methanol injection and megasquirt keeps the compression ratio at stock with pump gas. He is still dialing it in but believes that 1000hp at the crank is possible. His last 302 with a similar setup made 700hp at the crank before it broke. Total investment? Around $10,000. His labor is free in this equation.

This cuda could be made pretty cheaply when you compare to a Ferrari. It all depends on where they spent the $. I assume you could probably make the mechanical part using nascar stuff or similar and come in around $100k cost. That wouldn't include the pretty paint or a nice custom interior. Just my off the cuff guess.

Regardless. Wow. It looks like fun and sounds even better.

Larry

My guess is that about the only thing that looks original is the body and interior. I suspect it's been very beefed up to handle the extra forces. It looked like it had a fair amount of grip. I'm guessing it's braking and handling have been thoroughly updated to handle the 1000hp and 200+mph. It looks like it was pretty well made with attention to detail throughout. Still, yeah, I'm sure it wasn't anywhere near a million bucks.

I'd rather have Eddie Bello's monster 911 if I was going to be playing above 200 mph.

I agree though, who the heck ever gets a chance to drive that fast. The cuda is pretty bad ass though.

Zero to 200? My money would be on the 'Cuda over the Enzo...

This is a useless comparrison, come on a twin turbo big block against an N/A V12....apples to oranges.

Turbo civics drive to the track run a 10 sec quarter miles and then drive home..but why compare them to a Veyron or any exotic for that matter?

BTW Peter Klutt from LMC is the sorest loser at the track.

Yasin

Alan Johnson built a 'Cuda similar to that with more of a lean towards aerodynamics. I know all of the front clip and rear diffuser is carbon fiber.

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Don't forget that the windshield moulding had already flown off the Cuda in the middle of one run, and they had blocked off a bunch of the front end to try & prevent lift on the huge hood.

Like I wrote before, better overall engineering, not simply stuffing a big engine in an existing chassis.

The Cuda is in it's element cruising the highways and boulevards, where it would thoroughly destroy the Enzo.
We all know this. It's out of it's element on a top end run.

Still damned impressive performance though.

Very impressive, that is much more than simply a big motor stuffed into a stock Cuda. On that last pass it sounded like a jet.

I like it! The Cuda is pretty cool and probably affordable. I was at the dealership for a Challenger SRT8 with checkbook in pocket. The sales guy would NOT let me drive it or even start it, but they were very new then so I offered him full sticker price just because. He wasn't even barely interested as he said he had a buyer for almost twice that. I said you better sell it then. His reply was that I MIGHT be able to afford the V6 model when it comes out. I think I'll be getting something else now or at least NOT from them.....