Green laser for AR..

[rattlsnak]

Snipe et all:

Hey, Im trying to find a decent green laser sight for the AR and have found this one. Its half way down the page, similiar to Snipers i think, but they list two kinds. Tactical and combat style. They are out of stock on the tactical, but have the combat one. Whats the difference between
UTG tactical and UTG Combat...?

LaserSights&Mounted Flashlights

OR, does anyone know of a good place to get a rail mount, pressure action switch, green laser?

[m21sniper]

The one i bought was $100, and i already sent it back. you're not going to want to hear this, but IMO if you spend under $250 you're going to get a lemon.

I'd reccomend this one:


LaserMax Unimax universal green rail laser. You should be able to find one on line for a tick under $300.00

This is a good name brand, and should be 100% reliable and long lasting. The one i bought was neither...

I DO love the green though. MUCH more visible in daytime!

[rattlsnak]

thoughts on this one?:
Cabela's -- Beamshot Green Beam 2000 with Rail Mount

[Rick Lee]

Subscribing as I got an email that my Del-Ton rifle kit shipped today. Gotta find some optics now.

[MotoSook]

Why do you need a laser on an AR?

Besides that UTG is crap stuff for the most part. Stay away.

[legion]

I put this one on my Kel-Tec Sub 2000:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=956070

I wasn't going to spend 60% of that rifle's value on a good one.

[azasadny]

I'm saving up for an EoTech 516f for my Colt AR15.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by rattlsnak

thoughts on this one?:
Cabela's -- Beamshot Green Beam 2000 with Rail Mount

Beamshot is a good name brand, you should be good to go with that one.

For the same price you can get the Laser max unit i listed, which is much smaller and lighter.

Either way you should be good though.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by Soukus

Why do you need a laser on an AR?

Besides that UTG is crap stuff for the most part. Stay away.

Why don't you ask all the tens of thousands of US Infantrymen that all use PE/Q-2 laser sights on their AR's. It makes abnormal shooting positions (hip or some other awkward position) not just viable, but potentially highly accurate as well.

Seriously though....for perp compliance, a laser has no peer. You point a laser attatched to an AR at someone, they're going to listen. Would you try something with a green laser blinding you while held at gunpoint?

Neither would i.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by azasadny

I'm saving up for an EoTech 516f for my Colt AR15.

You can get a variety of sights that are just as good for a civilians needs for under 1/3 the cost.

Seriously, in a red dot, you can get a fully serviceable one for under $100.00, don't waste your money, red dots are extremely mature technology.

Here is the Red dot i put on my AR....


Walther PS-55 (under $100) Not a "premium" unit perhaps, but i trust Walther's name. I am sure it's made in some third world factory, but Walther is obviously keeping on top of the QC, as i've not seen any complaints online about them(i checked before i bought mine), and i have no complaints about it's fit, finish, or function thus far.


Walther PS-55 reticle

I've been using red dots of various types for a good 20 years. I have seen units that cost as low as $40.00 that work. My god son has a BSA red dot on his and it's dead balls on target and thus far, very reliable. I would never try and use one of those for military grade service, but for a guy with a rifle in his closet "just in case" that will absolutely get the job done.

If you MUST have a top name brand, you can still get an Aimpoint 9000 for about $225...less than half the cost of an EOTech. When i was an infantryman i used first an Aimpoint 1000 and then a 2000 in numerous field problems. They're military grade.

Seriously, don't drink the EOtech/Doktor/Trijicon (and even top end Aimpoint) KooLAiD.

If i was to buy another red dot right now, it would probably be this one, for a grand total of $130....


Look familiar?

How about these:


About $40.00


Or this one for about a hundred bucks.

So far i am very pleased with my PS-55. No it would not last as long as an EOTECH in a harsh military environment, but then, i don't need it to.

Use the money you saved on target ammo. You'll be much better off for it.

[MotoSook]

I don't know if an AR rifle would be my first choice for CQB, esp. in the house. I'd use an AR for home defend if I had too, but the useful range of a cheap laser on an AR is argueably nothing like what our soldiers see in the sand box. Probably more important is a good white light so you can confirm the target, if you have to point the rifle at anything in the house. (Edit-a short barreled AR is another matterfor CQB)

The racking of the bolt will have the same psychological effect as a laser bead I suppose.

But hey and AR is like a 911. It's a personal relationship between the owner and the equipment. Load it up with what you want

[porsche4life]

Personally I think the racking of a shell into my Mossberg Mdl 500A will make most burglars shat themselves... Then when they see that barrel right between their eyes... well... guess who wins...

[m21sniper]

I would definitely use my AR(carbine) for CQB. It has far less over-penetration risk indoors than pistol ammo does. And Mk262 Mod 1 ammo is extremely lethal...far more so than pretty much any pistol round.

If you have a green laser you don't need a light, the laser will light up a room by itself. I personally would not light it up until i was ready to expose my position(probably to shoot) though.

You can get a good red laser for 100 bucks, and they are certainly quite capable of holding a 50 meter or closer zero. For green, you're gonna have to spend a lot more.

The one i got for $100 held it's zero just fine, it just had a problem where the beam got real dim for a few seconds for no apparent reason, and then bright again.

I tried cleaning the contacts, new batteries, etc. No good. Sent it back.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

Personally I think the racking of a shell into my Mossberg Mdl 500A will make most burglars shat themselves... Then when they see that barrel right between their eyes... well... guess who wins...

You would be wrong. That only happens in the movies. The only sounds that the perp should hear is the boom.

[m21sniper]

It depends Red.

[rattlsnak]

still looking around for the laser, but i went with the Primary Arms sight..

Primary Arms M3 Clone - For Optics Accessories & More

[Buckterrier]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

Don't waste your money, red dots are extremely mature technology.

Wow, that's how long I've been out of it. This WAS the technology
Man... green, tiny, very cool new technology

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by rattlsnak

still looking around for the laser, but i went with the Primary Arms sight..

Primary Arms M3 Clone - For Optics Accessories & More

Should be fine for any self/home defense/plinking/short range(100yds or less) hunting needs you might have.

Good luck with it!

When you settle on a laser, plz let us know what you get, and if it holds up ok.

Originally Posted by Buckterrier

Wow, that's how long I've been out of it. This WAS the technology

As Metallica would say, Time marches on.

PS Rattlsnk: If you end up getting a 3x magnifier for your red dot(i noticed that it's compatible), don't spend over $150.00 for that either. Some of them are up to $600.00, which i find bewildering. I guess there must be a lot of stupid rich people out there.

If anyone is thinking of a particular model sight, just type the specific model number into google in quotations followed by problems. Ie, "Walther PS-55 problems." When i did that search, i got zero hits. Do the same search for an NCStar product, for instance, and there is no shortage of horror stories online.

[rattlsnak]

Still kinda looking around, but i saw one type that had a green laser AND a flashlight (LED i think) built into the same unit. Anyone seen something like that?

[m21sniper]

The one i saw was a cheap-o unit, in the cheaper than dirt catalog i think.

On the subject of lasers, my cousin bought himself and his dad Armalaser units for their P32s for Xmas. They seem like good high quality units, if not a bit bulky. They have interesting automatic laser activation circuitry.

I definitely prefer my Crimson Trace unit, but the Armalaser is about 1/2 the price of mine, and is a good quality unit, albiet a red one. They make both the CT and Armalaser units for all kinds of handguns.