Starting Over. I mean really over.

[Don Ro]

Back in the days when I had a couple of Renault R5 Turbo IIs, one of the profoundly experienced club members came down (to Calif) from his spread in Idaho with his covered mini truck/tools/knowledge and, for a fair price, go through our cars, tune them, make suspension suggestions, & give them a good love pat. He stayed overnight at times & left the next a.m.
He would sometimes work several cars in one day...making close to $2k/day.
He traveled around the western US for a couple of years - worked other exotic cars also.
An idea.

[Joeaksa]

Sing,

Tried to call but your phone number has changed. Email me your cell number when you get time.

Joe

[Nazgul280]

Fing,

I'm a 38 year-old corporate pilot, and I work with many ex-airline career pilots who lost their pensions. I understand your plight.

The first thing I would do is get out of Aviation. Sure, you like the rest of us, loved flying since you were 5 years old and always new that's what you were going to do. After all the ladder-climbing, modernization and globalization of the Aviation Industry and equipment this job has become something very different than what it was when you started out.

I don't know about you, but when I was young I used to buy all the Avaition related magazines off the rack and read them. Now when I get home I want to read anything BUT that stuff (for entertainment purposes, that is-I'm still a professional in the utmost regard). Maybe it's because it's your job and no longer a fun hobby, but something has changed.

So..... let's think of something you would be interested in, but without the risk of those crazy Pilot jobs in foreign lands. Something tells me you don't want to be scud running in the mountains of Columbia or working 16 hour days flying a Sheik's cousin around Yemen at this stage in your life.

How about Consulting? I see a lot of wealthy people do this after "retirement".

Perhaps you have many contacts you have made over the years and they know someone who wants to improve their aviation business or even start one?

You could work for the Flight Safety organization that does audits of flight departments. They and others like them are super busy right now preparing US based GA for SMS compliance by the end of 2010. You are probably an expert in this realm, and you would travel from place to place on their dime. You wouldn't be bored and you'd be in a new city every month, and would probably have Health Insurance to boot.

Good Luck,

-Dana

[Joeaksa]

Adding to what Dana mentioned above, the ONE thing that I can think of right now that he might just get into and not only survive but prosper, is the upcoming SMS and IS-BAO programs.

I am thinking of doing this on the side myself.

Joe A

[rick-l]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

upcoming SMS and IS-BAO programs

????

[varmint]

various missionary groups, catholic relief services and such, often hire retired airline guys.

the work is hard. and the pay is minimal. but if you just wanted to get the hell outta dodge for a year and clear your head it might be an option.

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by rick-l

????

They are upcoming safery programs that are being rammed down our throats by the feds.

No way around it and we will be needing people to write manuals for EACH operator.

It will mean a lot of work. Its coming this fall.

[Dueller]

fing...you've told us what you are qualified in (aviation). How 'bout what (seriously) interests you. In other words, if you could do anything in the world, regardless of your background, what would it be. Realistically speaking...you know you'll never be a center for the Knicks or a pitcher for the Yankees or tapped to drive a F1 car...if you could do virtually anything what would it be? I think that's where you start.

If nothing else, where geographically would you like to light in the short term? Find a small town with a municipal airport and volunteer to work the tower...or fuel planes. I know a few guys who have bounced around doing this. But unlike you they were there to try to get a few hours in the cockpit or up their ratings.

But you obviously can do something around aviation in most locales to support yourself until you find what it is you want to do.

I guess I'd look at my avocations to see if there was something I could develop into a new vocational pursuit.

So....what are your interests and experiences outside of aviation?

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by varmint

various missionary groups, catholic relief services and such, often hire retired airline guys.

the work is hard. and the pay is minimal. but if you just wanted to get the hell outta dodge for a year and clear your head it might be an option.

And you might end up liking it. Never know...

[Rick V]

Park ranger. Before you laugh think about, very little stress, outside, surrounded by nature. Sure ya won't get rich doing it, but I have a feeling this goes deeper then money.

[svandamme]

39 replies to this thread, and none of you even mentioned Hookers and blow.

you guys sicken me..

[AFC-911]

Originally Posted by svandamme

39 replies to this thread, and none of you even mentioned Hookers and blow.

you guys sicken me..

Unless you meant he should become a pimp & a drug dealer, $10k wouldn't last very long with that type of merchandise...

[svandamme]

doesn't matter, it's about clearing the mind, the bank account, and then really starting over....

it's not starting over if you start with 10K. that's just to easy.
And the H&B suggestion is just mandatory whenever anybody asks what to do with x amount of money... PPOT rules.

[911FASCINATION]

Hi All, Have any of you ever seen the movie, "Into the Wild"? It's been quite a while for me, and I think it ends tragically for the guy, but the mere suggestion of leaving the rat race is merely a fantasy for most of us-we're admittedly too busy chasing bull****, usually material things and situations, only to realize we're miserable when we get it/there. I'll be happy after I " ", is usually a disappointment for most of us. In all the years I've lived, I still do it, how easy it is to forget, all we really have is what's in front of us now-that's why it's so important to figure out what it is that gives us some satisfaction and fufillment. But, I could be wrong...

[Dueller]

Originally Posted by 911FASCINATION

Hi All, Have any of you ever seen the movie, "Into the Wild"? It's been quite a while for me, and I think it ends tragically for the guy, but the mere suggestion of leaving the rat race is merely a fantasy for most of us-we're admittedly too busy chasing bull****, usually material things and situations, only to realize we're miserable when we get it/there. I'll be happy after I " ", is usually a disappointment for most of us. In all the years I've lived, I still do it, how easy it is to forget, all we really have is what's in front of us now-that's why it's so important to figure out what it is that gives us some satisfaction and fufillment. But, I could be wrong...

Sounds like you've been reading Bukowski, too...

"The problem was you had to keep choosing between one evil or another, and no matter what you chose, they sliced a little bit more off you, until there was nothing left. At the age of 25 most people were finished. A whole god-damned nation of @ssholes driving automobiles, eating, having babies, doing everything in the worst way possible, like voting for the presidential candidates who reminded them most of themselves. I had no interests. I had no interest in anything. I had no idea how I was going to escape. At least the others had some taste for life. They seemed to understand something that I didn't understand. Maybe I was lacking. It was possible. I often felt inferior. I just wanted to get away from them. But there was no place to go."

—Charles Bukowski, Ham on Rye, 1982


"It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, ****, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?
"
— Charles Bukowski (Factotum)


"Sometimes you climb out of bed in the morning and you think, I'm not going to make it, but you laugh inside — remembering all the times you've felt that way."
— Charles Bukowski

[fingpilot]

I was usually the one flying the H & B in and out of Vegas in the early days.

[911boost]

I think a DOW Officer would be a kick azz job as well.

[JR_NYC]

Watch the last 10 minutes of 25th Hour, the movie with Ed Norton.

YouTube - 25th Hour-You all came so close to never happening-ending

[speeder]

Originally Posted by varmint

various missionary groups, catholic relief services and such, often hire retired airline guys.

the work is hard. and the pay is minimal. but if you just wanted to get the hell outta dodge for a year and clear your head it might be an option.

Just to clarify, CRS is definitely not a missionary group. It is the second largest relief organization in the world, (after CARE), and yes, it's part of the Catholic charities network but they do zero missionary work anywhere in the world.

I know this because my brother has worked for them for 20 years, (director of south and SE Asia regions), and he is not religious in the least. Same with his wife. Do not confuse CRS with groups of dipschit missionaries from the U.S. making messes all over the world. CRS does fantastic, essential general and emergency relief work in every corner of the globe.

And yes, they do use lots of retired military pilots or just guys from(?) to fly cargo and relief supplies. PM me if you want a contact, my bro is about as high up as it gets in that organization. I'll do anything I can for you.

My brother in Africa a few years back:

[Joeaksa]

Boy does the paint job on that -130 look familiar...