Having hell getting to sleep....
 

Ok here it is almost 3am.... I have to be up in about 5hrs....


I have gotten in this ugly cycle of stay up way late go to class sleep deprived and then take a nap in the afternoon.... Like today I had a lab all morning... came home ate lunch... slept all afternoon... went to my scuba class came back ate dinner and crashed again without thinking about it... fell asleep in the recliner with my laptop in my lap.

So what can I do to get back on a regular schedule.... it seems like no matter what I do I have hell going to sleep in bed anytime of night cant get comfortable and not sleepy... I don't have problems with naps b/c I am worn out when it gets to that stage.... It just seems like I am wired at night....

I have cut WAY back on caffeine... Drink mostly water now.

Welcome to why I drink.




I have no healthy suggestions for you.

Nor I, except lay off the coke. SmileWavy

Read this: The 10 Biggest Sleep Problems and How to Fix Them - Page 1 - MSN Health & Fitness - Health Topics

Then get some Lunesta, or whatever the docs think works the best, without many risks.

JR

......"went to my scuba class came back ate dinner and crashed again without thinking about it... fell asleep in the recliner ...."


Similar here, would eat dinner (6:00-7:30 PM) , fiddle around then doze off. Solved by gradually substitiuting this "early" "doze off time period" as recognition for my full nights sleep period instead. As soon as I recognized the "doze off" period starting, I would shut everything down and climb into bed, and use this time for my full night's sleep instead, (as best I could)

At first, might sleep/doze at around 8:00 PM at night, and wake/rise at around 3:30-4:30 AM at dark.
Then gradually modified this by "incrementally advancing" the "fiddling around phase" alittle more until the "doze off period" was advance to around 9:00 PM, and wake around 5:00-5:30 AM. Worked! And better prepared me for the day. So now I go to sleep "early" (not "early" anymore), and am up at 5:30 AM just before dawn. Full energy during the day, more productive, (afternoon nap much shorter needed, if at all)

(Up here bright and ready to go at 5:30 AM.)

Well, that's my personal story on this. (excuse the "wordi-ness")

I like to have a young lady come over to tire me out on school nights. :)

add it all up. you still getting 8 hours?

I have the same problem. Dr gave me Ambien.

heres some interesting FACTOIDS................


1) einstein ran on 5hrs or less sleep a day. i run on about 5-7hrs sleep.

2) if you disrupt your cycle you can never oversleep to regain that cycle back. ie. you lost sleep you will never gain it back.


3) partying(or working at home and slamming beers) is the same. stay up late and completely waste your regular sleep cycle.

4) REM sleep is the deepest and most fullfilling. this is very elusive and i havent a clue how to attain it on a regular cycle.

5) eating late and any caffeine will assure a poor night sleep.

6) eating spicey food late will also screw thangs up.

7) when i was young i was a night person(a bat). now that i have grown up usually i am out for the count right after the headline news at 9:15 -9:30 pm and then up at 330-430am every single stinking day. once last year i slept til 730am and thats because i hammered down a 18pak of cold juans. i felt very rough that day and took a NAP!

8) they have found that people who take a 90min nap are more conducive to problem solving than juans who dont take a nap. apparently a nap allows brain to clear short term memory banks and allows better problem solving.

9) rolling over after doing the "wild thang" is a deep REM sleep, problem is some idiot moron calls you on yer phone,rings yer doorbell, garbage truck/cop car/ambulance/firetruck ALWAYS WAKES YA UP! never fails.

10) a good nights sleep is PRECIOUS!

From what I recall of Psych 101, the ideal thing to get you back on schedule is to sleep later and later each "day" by a couple hours: 3 am, 5 am, 7 am, 9 am, etc. When you get to your ideal bedtime (e.g. 10 pm) just stop.

Naps are the best - I take one every day at my desk right after lunch. When I am on the road I make sure that who I am riding with has a call planned far away after lunch so I can grab some Zzzz on the way. 20 to 40 min nap is like a good night sleep. FWIW I do dream during those naps.

Amen to that!

ya know i never remember my dreams...................unless i eat SPICEY FOOD! name it mexican/chinese/thai/italian. anything heavy in spices i have some VERY BIZZARRO dreams. like slaying dragons/hand to hand combat with geronimo/zombeesz attacking/ flip flop all night. tear the sheets blankets off my bed and sometimes fall out of bed.


oh yeah and i talk in my sleep. WTF?

That's gotta be a hoot.

quite a few women in my bed have had fun with this fact.

Will take your/their word for it.

of course you can't sleep at night if you've slept all afternoon.

don't take the naps anymore.

This is a really funny blog about a woman who tapes her husband talking in his sleep.

Sleep Talkin' Man

Better yet...go crawl into bed with Lubey and his wife:D

Take melatonin. Knocks you out without making you feel drugged. I sleep like a baby and even get up before my alarm feeling great. Dont nap during the day. This will get your circadian rhythm back on schedule.

Instead of taking a nap in the afternoon when you are toast, go for a run or do some other cardio workout for 30 minutes. That will get you over the low. Don't nap. Stay up until the eve. You'll be tired and go to bed early.

George

Haha.... Nah I am fairly stress free... I mean ya I have stressful classes but I am not worried about that.....

My big problem is shutting my mind off... I am always making plans and what not.... If my mind doesnt shut down from exhaustion I don't go to sleep....

Melatonin works for some.


If it doesn't for you, wash down about 5 or 6 dramamine with a short glass of rum and play the "how long can I hold my head up" game. You'll be knocked out for at least 6-8 hours. Experience here.

The downside to this is that there's probably about a 5% chance you don't wake up, period.

stress free??? .... what are "the voices" , I mean "mind" telling u, the "what not" part & do those plans your making ever pan out, what about the "ego"(false sense of self) do u have one of those, no stress.. that means u don't have any fear either, man that sounds like u should be able to sleep no problem. I guess if you took a xanax nothing would happen

By plans I am talking about things I want to do... car stuff... trip I want to take... new camera gear....

thats called living in the "future"... people have made billions trying to turn the mind off, only way to do it without drugs or alcohol... is by living in the present, the "now"

I have the same problem I just cant shut my mind off. I'm self employed so I do have a little stress but its not bad. I have tried Melatonin and it helps a little. I took my first Ambien (generic) the other night.....WOW that stuff is good. That was the first time in 10+ years I slept the entire night without waking up.

I took Ambien for a year, the 1st day I ran out couldn't sleep... its just not a viable solution for me, but it does work short term. That sent me on a quest to figure out "why"

I'd rather not get addicted to sleed aids while I am still in school...

does that mean you can "after" school

No... I'd rather not at all....


Especially given the profession I am pursuing......

there-in lies the problem.... just start looking at other peoples lives(without judgement) and see how they handle turning off the mind( meditation), your not the only one with this problem & pay particular attention ( awareness) of what your mind is saying to you ( introspection...conscience behavior) whats your profession?

Sidney is a college kid... :)

Exactly... But I am going into pharmacy school.... I see a pharmacist with an addiction as a bad thing...

You mostly condition yourself to things. Some decent stock advice is to get yourself on a regular schedule of going to bed & rising at about the same time. If you exercise, it's better to do it earlier in the day. Exercising late is another thing that gets you revved up. Maybe make time for some activity like reading part of a novel or something to take you mind off other things, and hit the bed on time. Melatonin won't put you to sleep, but it might help you sleep better. I've been taking 2, 3 mg. tablets at bedtime since around 1990. I don't miss it if I skip it, but I find I wake up during the night more frequently. Why do you have to think of those sorts of things at night anyway. At your age you should be thinking about ******* at that time (and most other times during the day).

I know a couple of pharmaceutical reps, there very cautious about that sort of thing ... I think they get drug tested too... so thats not a solution for you, that means you'll have to find ways to really deal with problems, they will get worse and the mind will be more insistent on controlling your actions

Just open the "panty" thread and fap out a good one right before bed. You'll sleep like a baby, man.

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Trust me Marv I would rather be mindless most of the time... I don't have any control over it...


Jeremy if a few of those girls would come keep me company I wouldn't have that problem...