Hon Sam in Infernal Affairs.

Oh wait, that isn't Hollywood...

No, we wouldn't.

I hate jovial people.

LOL, then step to it duck, we can go. :)

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A bad guy with depth?

Simple,

Michael Corleone.

How about "Auto Focus" (story about actor, Bob Crane). Bad guy. Good Guy? Depends on your common interests.

Also, in no particular order:
"The Conversation", Gene Hackman, (1974)
"Taxi Driver", Robert DiNero, (1976)
"Scarface", Al Pacino, (1983)
"Monster", Charlize Theron, (2003)
"Henry: Portrait of A Serial Killer", Michael Rooker, (1986)
"Psycho", Anthony Perkins, (1960)
"Peter Pan", Capt. Hook, (1953) :-)

You've got some catching up to do.

As for "Avatar"; one would have thought that, for a movie budget of $300M, they'd have thought of a better name for the mineral ore they were seeking. Unobtanium? Geez.

That temporarily blew my suspension of disbelief, but I tried to rationalize to myself the goon squad scientist used it as a slang term - until they said it again later in the movie. I winced, made a face and shook my head until I realized that by 2052, the earth's supply of kitty litter could be very scarce. Can you imagine a universe w/o kitty litter? Egads.

The script should have gone through at least one more pass before they gave it the green light.

Sherwood

I just watched 3:10 to Yuma, and while not the best movie ever made, I have to say that I liked it a lot more than I thought it would. Actually a fair amount of moral ambiguity throughout, though it wasn't as subtle as it could have been. Hurt Locker had the same aspect (it was neither pro nor anti-war).

Haven't seen Avatar and likely won't.

"The Conversation", Gene Hackman, (1974) -- never saw it
"Taxi Driver", Robert DiNero, (1976) -- huh? No.
"Scarface", Al Pacino, (1983) -- Definitely not - a thug drug dealer
"Monster", Charlize Theron, (2003) - Man hater -- big deal, because she's a woman?
"Henry: Portrait of A Serial Killer", Michael Rooker, (1986) -- serial killers/deep -- nope.
"Psycho", Anthony Perkins, (1960) -- I think I answered this with the cannibal mentioned earlier -- no.
"Peter Pan", Capt. Hook, (1953) :-) LOL!

You sure CAN'T pick 'em. As is, I said Hollywood. Take out nonfictional characters and come back with a better list.

Your assumptions are completely off base. The reason why Avatar was a great movie was because of what you describe. The reason it wasn't a great story was the reason you describe.

That's a good movie. And a more of the type of interesting bad guy I asked for earlier.

True (about 3:10)

I think if you've seen Independence Day, and simply flip the sides around, you've seen much of Avatar.

What do you want to see, a real life snuff movie with interviews by Jeffrey Dahmer?

Okay. Try this:
"Dahmer", (2002). Hey, this could come full circle. Movie starred Jeremy Renner, who also starred in Hurt Locker.

Never mind.

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His dad Vito too, for that matter.

dying, ain't much of a livin boy YouTube - Classic Movie Lines #66

Josie don't count.

He was a good guy.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

DD, I can think of a lot of bad guys with depth, several played by Orson Welles off the top of my head. Harry Lime, in The Third Man, the sheriff, in Touch of Evil.

Really, Darth Vader had depth, if you think about it for a moment.

Of course, if you are going to say Hannibal the Cannibal has no depth, no point in really discussing it, we are in alternate realities so it is a bit pointless.
Ultimate answer, not universal
The original was far better, 3:10 to Yuma, I mean

How about Rutger Hauer's Roy Batty in Blade Runner?

Rutger Hauer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8&feature=related

not really.

as he said, "I never killed no one that didn't have it coming to them." (and it was true).

all the way until the end, when he refused to blow up the car with the woman and kid in it, even though he knew it would ultimately be his own end.

Here's Johnny! YouTube - The Best Part Of The Shining

District 9 - We hated it. The wife got through 15 minutes and left (rental DVD). It was brought back memories of The Fly. Goofy cast and stupid bugs.

Blind Side - good movie but not memorable. SB did a good job but then I thought she was awesome in Crash - which everyone else hated for some reason.

Avatar - good special effects but the story has been told a thousand times prior.

Hurt Locker - good movie but in no way suspenseful or exciting.

The rest we have not seen. Very slim pickings this year for Oscars.

James Cameron - biggest ego I have seen on a man. Loved his older stuff (prior to Titanic) but the dude needs to get a hair cut and check his ego at the door.

Hey not to veer too far off the initial post but put simply The Hurt Locker is a good story well told, its broadly about a fascinating dichotomy which exists within us, its a fresh take on that subject and ultimately is really well written, acted and directed movie. Avatar is an incredible technological feat that will change cinema viewing but the story is in esscence Dances with Wolves re imagined crippled guy (KC - EMotionally SW Physically) meets kindly but strong tribe struggling to preserve way of life in the face of advancing 'civilization' ... Terminator & Aliens were Cameron's best work and he should re examine that John Ford like simplicity rather than letting his gigantic bombastic personality and even larger ego dictate to him.
I'm proud of Catherine Bigelow and the Academy its a triumph of art over the dumbing down of society, what's even better is that KB put some of her own money into the Hurt locker so she could gain creative control, wouldn't it be sweet if that money initially came from Cameron ...