NHL: Why has no one cried foul on Cooke's hit to Marc Savard?

[Por_sha911]

OK, I admit I am a Bruins fan but, look at this video:
YouTube - Matt Cooke DESTROYS Marc Savard (HD - Full Incident)
First, Ovechkin gets suspended. Now they are crying about the Wisniewski's hit to Seabrook last night (which if you look at the video, Seabrook threw a dirty head shot first).
Now tell me, WHY has not 1 word been said about Cooke's dirty hit. Cooke has a rap sheet on dirty hits. Videos show the exact same move from behind the shooter has been done several times to other players. He didn't even get a 2 minute penalty! This is so wrong.
I'm feeling much better now.

[89911]

Because we are all Pens fans here? The league had days to look at it and came away with nothing. What exactly would you like us to do. Hockey is a very weird sport and the rules follow. Fans like the hits and the league isn't in any hurry to get rid of them. If it was me, I would ban all of it including fighting. But its not me.

[Eric 951]

The hit has been talked about alot on local media--basicaly, the refs didn't see it, so no penalty was called, so without the penalty, they can't issue a suspension and/or fine--unlike the NFL, so the only worry is if the Bruins will attempt some type of revenge against the Pens.

With the Bruins being on the brink of play-off conetention elimination, it would be stupid to risk a major penalty to exact revenge, but you never know in hockey.

[89911]

Cooke is no angel, but if you would look at the calls against Ovechkin over the past 2-3 years, he has gotten away with far worse. Talk about someone that should get their due. When's the last time he was in a fight? At least Cooke doesn't run and hide.

[exitwound]

It looked like Cooke was aiming for the shoulder but missed. Whether or not he did it intentionally is hard to tell from the replays. Cooke's a rough player but I haven't seen too many from him that are intention to hurt.

Ovechkin has routinely slew more feet, kneed more knees, and boarded 5 feet from the boards than anyone else in the league. Can't stand the man.

[m21sniper]

I suspect it's because no one cares?

[Por_sha911]

It just seems that they make a big deal out of any time that Ovechkin or Crosby fart but Cooke has done that exact head shot on 2 other occasions and he just skates away. I know what you mean by Chara wiping the floor with him but that hurts the Bruins because they need able bodied men that are healthy to stay on the ice. I wish that they would make suspensions for cheap head shots the same amount of time that the injured player is out (maybe with the second offense). Eye for an eye...
Hockey is a rough sport. No doubt. People get hurt. Its part of the game. My beef is that there used to be an honor code: If you fight a guy, take your helmet off...If the guy you are fighting goes down, the fight is over...No head shots. I want to see hockey (with fights and hits) not a mafia war. (of course being Sicilian, I know that there is no such thing as organized crime...)

[Buckterrier]

Watching the Bruins/Pens game now, NESN, Bruin's network. Announcers are funny soooo biased as they all are 2 fights. Cook got his within the 1st two minutes.
The Bruins should have done something that night. Old time hockey as the Hanson brothers say

And you know the league talked to the Bruins brass and said NOTHING better happen to Crosby. Just sayin.

[89911]

Pretty much a nonevent of a game. I'll give the Bruins credit, they didn't go "slap shot" on the Pens like everyone was thinking. I would wager to bet that there are as mamy pens fans that dislike the Cooke hit as Bruins.

[nostatic]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

Now they are crying about the Wisniewski's hit to Seabrook last night (which if you look at the video, Seabrook threw a dirty head shot first).

This was pretty much complete BS and Seabrook asked for it. If they'd tossed him first then the retaliation hit never would have happened. That said, the old saying goes, "the second foul is the one that gets called."

Can be kind of hard to delineate a clean and a dirty hit though. Seems that if the head is a target then it is a no-no. But there are plenty of other ways to seriously hurt another player. Kinda the point of the game actually...same with football. One reason that while I played street hockey (one of my two broken bones was in a floor hockey game in college, broke my wrist in the first period, finished the game with my wrist the size of a grapefruit), I always preferred baseball from a "game" standpoint. The violence is almost always against the ball rather than the person.

[Rich76_911s]

I don't mean to be argumentative, but Scott Stevens routinely went for the head, and was celebrated as throwing clean hits. Maybe the league has changed since then, but it always bothered me that Stevens knocking peoples heads into next year was always a "clean hit."

As a side not Richards laid a hit almost identical to the one Cooke did in this video, he got 5 mins, and sat the rest of the game. No suspension and no fines. Maybe if he were a Penguin the refs would turn a blind eye To me it looks like Richards intended to hit his body, but missed. I say that because of the way he fell after the hit. Cooke looks like he knew he was only going to get the head, and skated right threw it.

Richards hit:

[nostatic]

BS, he fell because he was almost leaving the ice to hit him high. Watch how he extends his knees right before the hit. Cheap shot.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by Rich76_911s

Richards hit:

Hey Booth, KEEP YOUR HEAD UP.

Ask Lindros about that. Stevens was a dirty, mean spirited player. But so was Lindros...

[m21sniper]

Stevens puts shoulder right into Lindros head:



You hit a guy like that you KNOW you're going to destroy him. So the very act of a hit like that itself can be viewed as dirty. But again, Lindros used to devastate players with those sorts of hits too. He was an absolute beast. Would have loved to see him and Stevens on the same team together. Hehehe.

[Jeff Alton]

Never felt bad for Lindros, ever. After the pussy momma's boy **** he pulled when he was drafted, I wish he got hit harder sooner....

The Richard's hit was dirty, the Cooke hit questionable. If Cooke did not have a rep there would not be much issue.

I like the hit on Seabrook, even though he is a local boy, he asked for it. But Wisenusky, or however you spell his name, stood up like a man and took care of business when challenged.

When you play a game like this, you need to have a little more situational awareness. Guys are going to get rocked no matter what the rules are. You need to make a play and then protect yourself.

It all could have been avoided if the the twerps Betman and Campbell would have addressed the Moore hit on Naslund a few years back........

[m21sniper]

Lindros was not a bad guy, his father totally (mis) micro-managed his career.

[Buckterrier]

Originally Posted by Jeff Alton

Never felt bad for Lindros, ever. After the pussy momma's boy **** he pulled when he was drafted, I wish he got hit harder sooner....

The Richard's hit was dirty, the Cooke hit questionable. If Cooke did not have a rep there would not be much issue.

I like the hit on Seabrook, even though he is a local boy, he asked for it. But Wisenusky, or however you spell his name, stood up like a man and took care of business when challenged.

When you play a game like this, you need to have a little more situational awareness. Guys are going to get rocked no matter what the rules are. You need to make a play and then protect yourself.

It all could have been avoided if the the twerps Betman and Campbell would have addressed the Moore hit on Naslund a few years back........

I kinda remember him being a toad when he was drafted. I feel the same way about John Elway. The crap he pulled when he was drafted, spoiled rotten pussy.

Originally Posted by m21sniper

Lindros was not a bad guy, his father totally (mis) micro-managed his career.

I think he was more of the wacked than the wacker. It cost him his career didn't it?

[m21sniper]

I was an avid flyers fan during the Lindros era. He out hit the opposition at about a 10:1 clip. Lindros used to DESTROY defensemen along the boards.

[Buckterrier]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

I was an avid flyers fan during the Lindros era. He out hit the opposition at about a 10:1 clip. Lindros used to DESTROY defensemen along the boards.

Yes he did but he took a bunch of mean hits, was concussed a half a dozen times or so?

Boy 75 - 80% of those hits would be illegal in the kinder-gentler NHL of today.

[m21sniper]

Never mind those first two vids, this one is Lindros at his best: