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Porsche-O-Phile 05-21-2010 11:47 AM

Korea
 
Whaddya' think?

My vote is for the South doing nothing 'cause the North could (and would) wipe them off the face of the earth if they actually do what they SHOULD, which is respond militarily to a flagrant act of war.

The South will try to levy economic sanctions against NK, cause those work so well...

jyl 05-21-2010 11:54 AM

The South has built economic ties w/ the North, which can be cut off, which will hurt the North significantly even if other countries (China) don't join in the sanctioning.

I don't see the South launching airstrikes or anything Hollywood like that. But the South is putting a lot more emphasis on anti-submarine now.

The Chosun Ilbo (English Edition): Daily News from Korea - S.Korea, U.S. Plan Joint Anti-Submarine Drill Next Month

Rot 911 05-21-2010 12:37 PM

They will do more than we ever will.

Rick Lee 05-21-2010 12:39 PM

I'm surprised NK doesn't do this more often. The worse they behave, the more they are rewarded. Why would they ever stop?

tabs 05-21-2010 12:46 PM

NK is a Chinese PAWN on the chess board of global politics. BO blows the Chinese off everytime they express a concern about something they don't like, and every time the Chinese get Bo attention by the Nk's doing something. Everytime it is Sec Treasury Geithner that talks to China and not Sec of State Clinton...and then ya notice after that all is quiet again with NK until...

Head416 05-21-2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 5363154)
Whaddya' think?

My vote is for the South doing nothing 'cause the North could (and would) wipe them off the face of the earth if they actually do what they SHOULD, which is respond militarily to a flagrant act of war.

The South will try to levy economic sanctions against NK, cause those work so well...

I think the worst thing the North could ever do is openly attach the South. We have US troops in the South. How do you think our military would respond if the North invaded?

(On the other hand, NObama is in office, so I guess anything's possible.)

I'm so sick of what Kim Jong Il has been up to the last few years. Why do we cater to this weak-*** nation? They sink a ship, murder South Koreans, then threaten the rest of the world that they better not do anything? WTH?

Porsche-O-Phile 05-21-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Head416 (Post 5363332)
I think the worst thing the North could ever do is openly attach the South. We have US troops in the South. How do you think our military would respond if the North invaded?

We'd do nothing. Well, we'd condemn the action, Obama would make a dog and pony show out of it and then invite ding-dong-il to Washington for a beer summit so they could talk about it. And talk, and talk, and talk. Then ding-dong il would go home with a belly full of US-taxpayer-paid food and stir up some schit elsewhere, convinced that the big old dog has no balls.

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Originally Posted by Head416 (Post 5363332)
(On the other hand, NObama is in office, so I guess anything's possible.)

'zactly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Head416 (Post 5363332)
I'm so sick of what Kim Jong Il has been up to the last few years. Why do we cater to this weak-*** nation? They sink a ship, murder South Koreans, then threaten the rest of the world that they better not do anything? WTH?

SK should be militarizing to match the moves of the North. They aren't. They should be trying to move their populations away from the border with the north (where they're much more vulnerable to a larger array of weaponry). They aren't. They should be openly trying to create inroads with China and other powers in order to forcibly disarm the North. They aren't.

Instead they're taking their concerns to the UN (har-har, that'll work) and throwing it on the table for consideration by the US. Like we're going to do anything.

jwasbury 05-21-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 5363345)
They should be trying to move their populations away from the border with the north (where they're much more vulnerable to a larger array of weaponry).

With Seoul being only 40 miles or so from the border, this is pretty hard to do.

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RWebb 05-21-2010 01:39 PM

this puts China in an interesting position - they do a LOT of biz with SK and the US -- what will they do, now that their supported regime has done this?

NK will go to the UN for sanctions and maybe do some unilateral stuff, but they do NOT want a war with NK

Head416 05-21-2010 02:17 PM

The problem is China doesn't have to worry cuz the US is dependent on their imports and will just roll over.

RWebb 05-21-2010 02:53 PM

but China is heavily dependent on exports to the US...

JJ 911SC 05-21-2010 03:01 PM

Let me think
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 5363154)
Whaddya' think?

My vote is for the South doing nothing ...

Damm the torpedoes full steam ahead...

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ODDJOB UNO 05-21-2010 06:55 PM

i think we should covertly take ALL THE COCAINE SEIZED around the world and FLOOD NORTH KOREA with it.


and FLOOD THE COUNTRY from sea/air/ land with VIAGRA!



sooner or later kim ill lil dick dong and his uber entourage will catch the action going on(we know he has a penchant for hookers) and seemingly over night they will be addicted to cocaine and viagra and screw themselves into an early grave! then south korea takes over and makes nice with china.


VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

Hugh R 05-21-2010 07:16 PM

ODDJOB UNO

That is brilliant!

jyl 05-21-2010 07:42 PM

Don't fall into the trap of thinking that the US depends on China but China does not depend on the US. It is a mutual dependence, and Chinese policy is at least as influenced by US desires as US policy is influenced by Chinese desires.

sc_rufctr 05-21-2010 08:02 PM

Nothing seems to change there.

The sinking of the Cheonan was an act of war. Someone needs to grow a pair and do something about it.
But they won't...As always South Korea will protest and some time will pass and that will be it.
SK should have retaliated accordingly. There are ways they could have done this effectively but they chose not to.

From INSIDE JoongAng Daily
"According to one source, Chinese diplomats based in Seoul have been telling diplomats from other countries that taking the
Cheonan case to the Security Council was “not a good idea” because it could “upset” the North."


Freekin pathetic if you ask me but the older I get the more I realise the world is full of Kaka.
The only thing that seems to matter is economics. Peoples lives or dignity counts for nothing.

Round and round we go...

jyl 05-21-2010 08:33 PM

Easy to talk tough when your capital city isn't 45 miles from the border.

m21sniper 05-21-2010 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 5363154)
Whaddya' think?

My vote is for the South doing nothing 'cause the North could (and would) wipe them off the face of the earth if they actually do what they SHOULD, which is respond militarily to a flagrant act of war.

The South will try to levy economic sanctions against NK, cause those work so well...

The South won't do anything.

If they were serious about ever responding it would be telegraphed like a neon sign, because the very first thing the ROK would do before any pre-emptive strike is evacuate Seoul completely.

Heel n Toe 05-21-2010 09:27 PM

Why shouldn't SK just take out a similarly-sized NK vessel? "Eye for an eye" for ol' KJI... he would have no justification for overreacting to that.

m21sniper 05-21-2010 09:31 PM

Because DPRK has over 10,000 artillery pieces pointed at Seoul, which would kill 10's if not 100's of thousands within a matter of a few minutes of the opening of hostilities.

The DPRK is able to act as outrageously as it does because it literally has millions of innocent civilians within easy striking distance, and the means to create truly horrific mass causualties in a matter of minutes.

Any time, day or night.


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