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lesbian parents bad for kids?

Not according to the first longitudinal study

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having ONE mom was enough of a test for me in life. TWO?? that would be crazy.

honestly, kids need good homes, and love/affection. the rest appears to simply fall into place.
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having ONE mom was enough of a test for me in life. TWO?? that would be crazy.

honestly, kids need good homes, and love/affection. the rest appears to simply fall into place.
Yep. I have worked with surrogacy programs for years that are used by gay couples. They have the same family struggles we all do. I haven't noticed any real differences. Of course, being in the Bay Area colors the experience a bit. People here are pretty tolerant. It might be different somewhere less socially libertarian.
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I will spare you my religious view on this, which runs strong and deep, and just say that as a boy I can't imagine growing up without a father.

There is something very fundamentally wrong with this.
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i pretty much grew up without a dad. he died when i was young. my mom rallied and got it done, and kept me out of prison.

either way..foster system?..or adopted into a loving home?..seems like the simple answer to me. i know some lesbian parents. kids are COOL! regular kids..
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I support a traditional family structure. I think boys need a fatherly role model and girls need a motherly role model. Life is not a freakin comedy movie. While I believe homosexual couples want to do the right things for their children, the burden on the child is tremendous.

It's very obvious that today, bullying is a major factor for kids growing up. Throw in homosexual parents and that can just make for a catastrophe, IMO.

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My next-door neighbors are a gay female couple, and they have two little (3-4 year old) boys.

Best. Neighbors. Ever. IMO the little boys act like little boys, and I imagine that their Mom(s) will do a fine job.

When they're 10 years old, or 13, or whatever, It's probably gonna be tough, but from what I hear, it's tough for everyone, right? I do imagine it would be hard for a teenager or young adult with two moms to define and implement a completely healthy heterosexual relationship with a girl.
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I dunno, the lesbian couples I know here are all flaky. Maybe it's an AZ thing.
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I don't know any boy kids with lesbian mothers. Some of my male friends were were raised by single hetero mothers, and they grew up fine. Not sure if it makes any difference if the mother is gay or straight.

I know boy and girl kids with gay fathers, most of them I know very well (see them 2X week, etc) and they seem to be growing up very normally. I don't detect any difference in behaviour vs the kids I know with straight fathers.

I think that, to have an opinion on this issue, it really helps to actually know multiple kids in such families. Actual data counts for a lot more than theory or ideology.
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I know stable and flaky straight couples, and stable and flaky gay couples. The sexual orientation doesn't really seem to be the predictor. Which is what this study seems to suggest. In a perfect world, a loving mother and father is probably the ideal setup. But we don't live in a perfect world, and I think a loving gay couple is way better for a kid than a crappy hetero couple.
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I know stable and flaky straight couples, and stable and flaky gay couples.
I know stable and flaky straight couples. I know only flaky lesbian couples. Maybe it's a Hawthorne-effect kind of thing?
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I know stable and flaky straight couples, and stable and flaky gay couples. The sexual orientation doesn't really seem to be the predictor. Which is what this study seems to suggest. In a perfect world, a loving mother and father is probably the ideal setup. But we don't live in a perfect world, and I think a loving gay couple is way better for a kid than a crappy hetero couple.
GREAT POINT! GREAT!

no doubt that there are some effed up hetero couples out there raising kids...i wish the planet was a happy, pinked sky, perfect scenario..but crackhead parents having babies and tossing them into the foster care system..same sex parents, while NOT old fashioned and normal..is the better option.

my lesbian friends are raising some well adjusted kids. parents are doctors and lawyers..$$ all put aside for any college on the planet. foster kids, are gonna be tossed into the world with one arm tied back.. simple logic to me.
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I support a traditional family structure. I think boys need a fatherly role model and girls need a motherly role model. Life is not a freakin comedy movie. While I believe homosexual couples want to do the right things for their children, the burden on the child is tremendous.

It's very obvious that today, bullying is a major factor for kids growing up. Throw in homosexual parents and that can just make for a catastrophe, IMO.

Call me old fashion, I never liked Murphy Brown.
I agree with this but I can understand wanting to have kids as they are such a joy, just glad I'm not a fudge packer cause I'd want kids too but it would have to be tough as you got older and realized that your family is different from your friends
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Depends where you live. In the places I've lived most of the time - Los Angeles, SF Bay, Portland - having gay parents isn't particularly weird. The kids aren't stigmatized - at least up through 7th grade, which is my personal experience so far.

I don't know about high school, but my recollection of H.S. is that kids get hassled for every possible reason - if it isn't your family, it's your hair, your clothes, your looks, your interests, your family income, your race, your accent, your grades, etc etc. Everyone needs to be tough, even if you're from a picture-perfect high income WASP hetero BMW-driving family.
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My two older kids just finished high school. Big stud football player has lesbian parents. Lots of openly gay high school students. No teasing. No stigma. None. Nobody cares! My kids don't give stuff like that a second thought. It really doesn't matter. Honestly? It's pretty nice.
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I think it's sick.

Coming from me, that should say a lot.
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My two older kids just finished high school. Big stud football player has lesbian parents. Lots of openly gay high school students. No teasing. No stigma. None. Nobody cares! My kids don't give stuff like that a second thought. It really doesn't matter. Honestly? It's pretty nice.
So much for shocking your parents by announcing you're gay...LOL!
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I know stable and flaky straight couples, and stable and flaky gay couples. The sexual orientation doesn't really seem to be the predictor. Which is what this study seems to suggest. In a perfect world, a loving mother and father is probably the ideal setup. But we don't live in a perfect world, and I think a loving gay couple is way better for a kid than a crappy hetero couple.
That's the nub of it, surely. Very hard to argue with.
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I will spare you my religious view on this, which runs strong and deep, and just say that as a boy I can't imagine growing up without a father.

There is something very fundamentally wrong with this.
Thank you!

God put man and woman on the earth for a reason. He did not put two women or two men.

My Mother and Father were polar opposites in so many ways but they were my parents. A kid needs one of each IMHO...

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