Life extinction event in the gulf?

[dipso]

Could be worse than we think in the gulf.
Lot's of talk about the Methane under there.
How the ultimate BP Gulf disaster could kill millions - by Terrence Aym - Helium

[masraum]

Here's something that you'll like

NOAA Ocean Explorer: Expedition to the Deep Slope

Iceworms (Hesiocaeca methanicola) infest a solid piece of orange methane ice at 540 m depth in the Gulf of Mexico. Photo by Ian MacDonald.

[slakjaw]

U mean them wormz LIVE on methane? It cant be yo.

[slakjaw]

Do they poop hydrocarbons?

[dipso]

I think BP was drilling deeper than they were allowed. Just like Greg Palast said.
That's why the cap blew and now they are playing dumb.

That well casing is cracked way down and now all kinds of weird sheit is happening.

[dewolf]

[QUOTE=masraum;5412009]Here's something that you'll like

NOAA Ocean Explorer: Expedition to the Deep Slope

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This sort of thing shows that if there is even the remotest chance of life beginning, evolving, etc, life flourishes. Makes me wonder just how many planets and moons in our solar system contain life....... "not as we know it Jim"

[dd74]

And then, if it is capped, what happens to all the pressure; methane, gas, oil, etc? Doesn't it need relieving?

All of this is B.S. Plain and simple. And shameful. No one needs oil this badly.

[Tobra]

How soluble in water is methane?

They weren't drilling too deep, they were drilling deep and did everything half assed and in a hurry, leading to fubar wellhead.

[BRPORSCHE]

dips,

Please stop. They weren't drilling deep at all. I have some deep rock at work if you would like me to mail you a piece. I'd do that just for you. BP is known for cutting corners. It has nothing to do with the depth.

[Hugh R]

It's pretty much infinitely soluble in water at the surface, at 5,000 feet I doubt much. The pressure doesn't allow it to "squeeze" into the spaces too much. The H2O molecules are crammed together pretty close and no space for much else. I don't know what I'm talking about, just a wild guess.

[nota]

Originally Posted by Tobra

How soluble in water is methane?

They weren't drilling too deep, they were drilling deep and did everything half assed and in a hurry, leading to fubar wellhead.

Methane clathrate, also called methane hydrate, methane ice or "fire ice" is a solid clathrate compound (more specifically, a clathrate hydrate) in which a large amount of methane is trapped within a crystal structure of water, forming a solid similar to ice.[1] Originally thought to occur only in the outer regions of the Solar System where temperatures are low and water ice is common, significant deposits of methane clathrate have been found under sediments on the ocean floors of Earth.

Methane clathrate, is the stuff that clogged the concrete structure BP tryed to put over the leaking pipe
the press called it ice but it is a mix of water and methane

Methane forms a structure I hydrate with two dodecahedral (20 vertices, thus 20 water molecules) and six tetradecahedral (24 water molecules) water cages per unit cell.

[GothingNC]

Looks like it it is damaged 1000 feet below the sea bed-scary situation

BP PLC has concluded that its “top-kill” attempt last week to seal its broken well in the Gulf of Mexico may have failed due to a malfunctioning disk inside the well about 1,000 feet below the ocean floor

Oil industry expert Rob Cavner believes that the casing might be damaged beneath the sea floor, noting: The real doomsday scenario here… is if that casing gives up, and it does come through the other strings of pipe. Remember, it is concentric pipe that holds this well together. If it comes into the formation, basically, you‘ve got uncontrolled [oil] flow to the sea floor. And that is the doomsday scenario. Cavner also said BP must “keep the well flowing to minimize oil and gas going out into the formation on the side”…

BP Official Admits Damage To Gulf Oil ‘Well Casing’ Below Seabed « The Tonka Report


Oil And Gas Leaks From Cracks In Seabed Confirmed - Videos Show Gulf Oil Spill Leaking From Seafloor | Alexander Higgins Blog

Thermal cracking underground is known to start at the 6-700 degree range. Using the information below in my posts about sub-surface salt structuring in the Sigsbee, and, how close they are to underground lava flows by the depth of the Horizon borehole depth. ( Horizon was drilled to a depth of 35,050′. That’s 6.6382575 miles. The Sigsbee’s depth in the G.o.M. is disputed and estimates range between 3,750 and 4,384 metres {12,300 and 14,383 ft}. ), it is obvious that they are encountering uncontrollable methane production in the sub-strata, due to natural pyrolysis and the resulting production of gas.

Did not realize they were that deep below the sea bed.

[Tobra]

Hugh, I would trust a WAG from you over a "documentary" from Oliver Stone or Michael Moore.

Two questions:

Does that 35, 000 feet include the 5000 feet of water?

What does shrimp marinated in methane taste like?

[GothingNC]

According to the EPA report, Volatile Organic Compounds (VOC’s)are being emitted from the bottom of the ocean in amounts never seen before. Below is the transcript of the report where it cites the VOC’s present, the levels at which they are safe for humans, and the amounts that were detected in the studies the EPA performed. The

1. Hydrogen Sulfide (H2S) emitted at a rate of 1,200 parts per billion(ppb) into the water and the air afterwards, once it surfaces. Levels considered “safe” for humans round 5-10 ppb;

2. Benzene (C6H6) emitted at a rate of 3,000 ppb. Human “safe” levels are said to be around 0-4 ppb

3. Methylene Chloride or dichloromethane CH2Cl2, emitted at a rate of 3,400 ppb. Human tolerance is established to levels below 61 ppb.

Other gases cited during the interview as being emitted from the spill include vanadium, which according to our research is, in its pure form, a greyish silvery, soft and ductile metal used as an alloy in the manufacturing of cars. According to the Mineral Information Institute, “it is found in magnetite (iron oxide) deposits that are also very rich in the element titanium. It is also found in bauxite (aluminum ore), rocks with high concentrations of phosphorous-containing minerals, and sandstones that have high uranium content.” It has 2 isotopes that occur naturally. One of the isotopes is stable and one is radioactive.

[Pazuzu]

Originally Posted by GothingNC

Looks like it it is damaged 1000 feet below the sea bed-scary situation

BP PLC has concluded that its “top-kill” attempt last week to seal its broken well in the Gulf of Mexico may have failed due to a malfunctioning disk inside the well about 1,000 feet below the ocean floor

Oil industry expert Rob Cavner believes that the casing might be damaged beneath the sea floor, noting: The real doomsday scenario here… is if that casing gives up, and it does come through the other strings of pipe. Remember, it is concentric pipe that holds this well together. If it comes into the formation, basically, you‘ve got uncontrolled [oil] flow to the sea floor. And that is the doomsday scenario. Cavner also said BP must “keep the well flowing to minimize oil and gas going out into the formation on the side”…

BP Official Admits Damage To Gulf Oil ‘Well Casing’ Below Seabed « The Tonka Report


Oil And Gas Leaks From Cracks In Seabed Confirmed - Videos Show Gulf Oil Spill Leaking From Seafloor | Alexander Higgins Blog

Thermal cracking underground is known to start at the 6-700 degree range. Using the information below in my posts about sub-surface salt structuring in the Sigsbee, and, how close they are to underground lava flows by the depth of the Horizon borehole depth. ( Horizon was drilled to a depth of 35,050′. That’s 6.6382575 miles. The Sigsbee’s depth in the G.o.M. is disputed and estimates range between 3,750 and 4,384 metres {12,300 and 14,383 ft}. ), it is obvious that they are encountering uncontrollable methane production in the sub-strata, due to natural pyrolysis and the resulting production of gas.

Did not realize they were that deep below the sea bed.

Originally Posted by GothingNC

According to the EPA report, Volatile Organic Compounds (VOC’s)are being emitted from the bottom of the ocean in amounts never seen before. Below is the transcript of the report where it cites the VOC’s present, the levels at which they are safe for humans, and the amounts that were detected in the studies the EPA performed. The

1. Hydrogen Sulfide (H2S) emitted at a rate of 1,200 parts per billion(ppb) into the water and the air afterwards, once it surfaces. Levels considered “safe” for humans round 5-10 ppb;

2. Benzene (C6H6) emitted at a rate of 3,000 ppb. Human “safe” levels are said to be around 0-4 ppb

3. Methylene Chloride or dichloromethane CH2Cl2, emitted at a rate of 3,400 ppb. Human tolerance is established to levels below 61 ppb.

Other gases cited during the interview as being emitted from the spill include vanadium, which according to our research is, in its pure form, a greyish silvery, soft and ductile metal used as an alloy in the manufacturing of cars. According to the Mineral Information Institute, “it is found in magnetite (iron oxide) deposits that are also very rich in the element titanium. It is also found in bauxite (aluminum ore), rocks with high concentrations of phosphorous-containing minerals, and sandstones that have high uranium content.” It has 2 isotopes that occur naturally. One of the isotopes is stable and one is radioactive.

I'm sorry, posting from some no-name crack pot blog is bad enough, but posting the COMMENTS in a crack pot no name blog is over the top.

I'm not sure that there is a single factual, true thing in any of that that you quoted. The well wasn't anywhere near 35K feet, wasn't anywhere near 700 degrees, wasn't anywhere near lava flows (where in the hell did that come from??), and throwing up some numbers of how the environment next to an oil leak at 5000 foot depth might not be conducive to human life...well, that's just silly.

[RWebb]

the real life extinction is the anoxic conditions caused by bacteria eating up the spill - they use up all the O2 to do that, creating dead zones

also, this thing is bad enuff w/o getting all crazy about it