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look 171 06-19-2010 01:26 AM

bug bite spread?
 
I got these bites that itch like crazy. So, I go and scratch. Now the bumps are spreading and I am going nuts. I can't freaking sleep. I have never had a bug bite spread like it before, or spread at all. I stop scratching since the afternoon and it stop spreading. Try over the counter stop itch meds, but it aint working.

do bug bite spread when yo break the surface of the skin? If any one know of another way to stop itch, let me know. Pleeease.

Jeff

Groesbeck Hurricane 06-19-2010 01:31 AM

Jeff,

Stop scratching!!! Sounds more like poison ivy/oak than a bug bite! Go to the druggist and get some TECNU. Follow instructions on the bottle. Get a package that has CalaGel packed with it.

IF this is poison ivy/oak you are only spreading the chemical burn. You need to stop scratching, change clothes (wash them separate from other clothes), and stay in a cool environment. Best of luck! I have the same thing right now and have missed the last three days of work (90% coverage).

look 171 06-19-2010 01:40 AM

I have not been outside but did a little painting and clean up the yard. This was 2 days ago. There are no poison ivy or oak on our little property. Did you go to the doc?

javadog 06-19-2010 05:12 AM

Bug bites don't spread. Poison oak and poison ivy do. Reread the advice from David... or go see a doctor.

JR

A930Rocket 06-19-2010 05:33 AM

You don't have firecrotch do you? Ain't no meds gonna cure that....

look 171 06-19-2010 05:01 PM

Groesbeck,

Had to reread your post now. I flew to mylocal 24 hour drug store way on the other side of earth to get Tec Nu. I think is working a bit so far, but it doesn't really stop it completely. Problem is I start scratching when I am dead asleep sometime. now it spread a bit more then I like on my legs. This is my first time and It is bad $hit. Holy $hit, 90%? What's this Gala Gel stuff? They did not have any. How long does the Tec Nu stop itch. How many day have you had it?

Jeff

UconnTim97 06-19-2010 05:08 PM

I find that Ivy Dry works much better. I usually manage to get poison ivy at least once a year doing yard work and Ivy Dry clears it up the quickest of any product that I have tried.

look 171 06-19-2010 05:16 PM

Ivy over the counter? You must know what it looks like, so you treat it right away before it gets out of hand. scratching feels so damn good after 2 days of hands off. I know I got to stop.

UconnTim97 06-19-2010 05:57 PM

Stay cool, warm and humid environments make it itch more.

There are prescription topical steroids if it gets real bad. I had to go that route after getting a nasty case of poison sumac. That was purely miserable.

peppy 06-19-2010 06:12 PM

I have had good luck with bleach.

I used to get it every summer. My doctor asked me if I knew what the hell it looked like.

craigster59 06-19-2010 06:49 PM

Caladryl Clear works for me. Calamine lotion with Benadryl. There are other treatments but you just have to tough it out. Some people use an oatmeal rub or rub a raw potato on it but that never worked for me. Put some socks on your hands.

mikester 06-19-2010 07:21 PM

sounds like swampass to me.

john walker's workshop 06-19-2010 07:31 PM

herpes.

Jandrews 06-19-2010 07:41 PM

Chigger bites? I have had them like that before where more seem to show up after the first day or so. Not sure how that works, but my understanding is that they inject a poison that breaks down the skin, and then they leave. Then, the breaking down of the skin is what makes it itch so bad.

I have had 50-60 bites on each leg (foot to knee), two or three times, and I thought I was going to die. Honestly, probably the closest thing to being driven insane that I have ever experienced!

Gotta tough it out, but in the mean time, benadryl (both orally and topically) is what I used to adjust the itching from a 10 to a 9.5!!!

JA

Por_sha911 06-19-2010 08:55 PM

One time I got bitten/attacked by a million fire ants. I found that by spraying the hottest water I could handle would relieve the itch for a while. The heat brings the histamine to the surface and the water rinses it away. Doing the hot water thing and taking Benedryl every 4 hours helped me get through it without going insane from the itching.
If it gets too bad, see a doctor. They'll give you and oral steroid to clear it up quick.

masraum 06-19-2010 10:11 PM

Poison Ivy doesn't spread after you've showered. What may happen is that you may get it one skin on different areas of your body, the skin is different, and it takes longer to manifest the symptoms in different areas. Poison Ivy has an oil that causes the cell walls to break down. Once you've washed the oil off of your skin and hands, it won't spread until you come into contact with it again.

Just a thought, maybe seem a doctor or dermatologist.

look 171 06-19-2010 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john walker's workshop (Post 5413378)
herpes.

I wish but no such luck. I am too damn ugly.

elwood-914 06-19-2010 10:43 PM

Ive been bit by an assassin bug a few times. Evidently I am allergic. Put me at emergency once. I spray but it happens every so often. Benedyl is my best friend.
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look 171 06-19-2010 10:52 PM

Uconntim,

I have had almost every itch med on my table by this afternoon. I must have burned over a hundred bucks. Some are a bit better then others. IVYDRY is the $hit. I searched from here to Mexico for it and thank god, I found it. It did away with he itch for an hour now, and I am feeling better but it does not work for my wife. Thank all of you so much for the tips. Eating Benedryl for tonight.

Man, this itch is a real ass kicker. I have never experience itch like it and some of you get it every year, holy $hit.

Jeff

pwd72s 06-20-2010 12:40 AM

Bedbugs are making a comeback. Just sayin'...

RWebb 06-20-2010 08:15 AM

not sure if chiggers live in SoCal.

BTW - here is how they "work":

"Chiggers" are the larval instar of tiny mites. The adult females injects something alright, but it is not a poison. They pierce the skin and lay eggs in your body. When the eggs hatch, the larvae want to get out of course, so they wriggle back up THRU your skin, and then they leave.

Nice, eh?

70racing 06-20-2010 08:30 AM

To be PC its "chigroes" not chiggers -

masraum 06-20-2010 09:21 AM

A way to kill the itch, run the hottest water you can stand over the rash (really hot). It'll itch like mad. After several minutes of insanity inducing itch, it'll stop. Then it won't itch for several hours.

Jandrews 06-20-2010 01:57 PM

Awww....RWebb, I could have gone on just believing my "poison" theory. Man, that is sickening! Especially given how many bites I had that time. Imagine the amount of eggs!! Oh...nasty!

I wonder if this is why there is that home remedy idea out there of putting clear finger nail polish over the bite to "smother" them? Does that work as far as you know? Not sure what that would result in though, maybe something worse??!!

Shiverrrrrr!!!

JA

Jagshund 06-20-2010 06:52 PM

Bug bites can kinda spread if they're hanging around the host . . .

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Joe Bob 06-20-2010 07:18 PM

Wear gloves.....try not to touch yer dick w/o first washing yer hands or wearing surgical gloves.....otherwise Omar the Tentamker will get all swole up....

Chas White 06-20-2010 07:34 PM

Poison ivy will last fourteen days if you put something on it, two weeks if you don't...

I'd try maxing it out with a really hot shower. If you do have poison ivy, most of the over-the-counter stuff is like trying to put out a forest fire by pi$$ing on it. See a dermatologist.

nynor 06-20-2010 07:38 PM

poison ivy -> epsom salt bath, FTW.

RWebb 06-20-2010 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jandrews (Post 5414154)
Awww....RWebb, I could have gone on just believing my "poison" theory. Man, that is sickening! Especially given how many bites I had that time. Imagine the amount of eggs!! Oh...nasty!

I wonder if this is why there is that home remedy idea out there of putting clear finger nail polish over the bite to "smother" them? Does that work as far as you know? Not sure what that would result in though, maybe something worse??!!

Shiverrrrrr!!!

JA

yes, that or kerosene

Now, have I ever told you about Guinea Worm??? chiggers are nuthin'...

nynor 06-20-2010 08:02 PM

crisco works just fine for chiggers. or vaseline.

72doug2,2S 06-20-2010 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 5413856)
A way to kill the itch, run the hottest water you can stand over the rash (really hot). It'll itch like mad. After several minutes of insanity inducing itch, it'll stop. Then it won't itch for several hours.

+1 Never scratch it.

This is the best advice by far. If you want to get some relief in areas that you can't get under the tap you can also try using a hair dryer on hot. Leave it on as long as you can stand it without burning yourself and you're back to normal.

I believe, the heat causes the histamines to rise to the surface of your skin giving you relief for hours at a time.

I used rub all the pharmacy crap on poison ivy and bites, but now I just run a hot tap or grab the hair dryer and in less than a minute I feel completely fine.

***Note if you were just exposed to poison ivy use cold water and soap. If you can shower within 20 minutes you can minimize or reverse the effect, but once you've really got it then go hot hot hot.

RWebb 06-20-2010 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynor (Post 5414636)
crisco works just fine for chiggers. or vaseline.

yes any oil or grease will clog the little breathing tubes from their azz -- they stick those up thru your skin to the surface

of course, then you have a bunch of dead chigger larvae in your skin, rotting away...


sure you don't want to hear about the Guinea Worm???

masraum 06-20-2010 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 5413781)

BTW - here is how they "work":

"Chiggers" are the larval instar of tiny mites. The adult females injects something alright, but it is not a poison. They pierce the skin and lay eggs in your body. When the eggs hatch, the larvae want to get out of course, so they wriggle back up THRU your skin, and then they leave.

So this is what folks grew up believing in the southeast where the nasty little things are prevalent.

Here's what Wikipedia says about them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiggers
Quote:

In their larval stage they attach to various animals, including humans, and feed on skin, often causing itching. These relatives of ticks are nearly microscopic measuring 0.4 mm (1/100 of an inch) and have a chrome-orange hue.[5][6] A common species of harvest mite in Northern America is Trombicula alfreddugesi; in the UK the most prevalent harvest mite is Trombicula autumnalis.

Trombiculid mites go through a life cycle of eggs, larva, nymph, and adult.[7] The larval mites feed on the skin cells, but not blood, of animals, including humans. The six-legged parasitic larva feeds on a large variety of creatures including humans, rabbits, toads, box turtles, quail, and even some insects. After crawling onto their host, they inject digestive enzymes into the skin that break down skin cells. They do not actually "bite," but instead form a hole in the skin called a stylostome and chew up tiny parts of the inner skin, thus causing severe irritation and swelling. The severe itching is accompanied by red pimple-like bumps (papules) or hives and skin rash or lesions on a sun-exposed area. For humans, itching usually occurs after the larvae detach from the skin.[8]

After feeding on their hosts, the larvae drop to the ground and become nymphs, then mature into adults which have 8 legs and are harmless to humans. In the post larval stage, they are not parasitic and feed on plant materials. The females lay 3–8 eggs in a litter, usually on a leaf or under the roots of a plant, and die by autumn.[
So, not quite as gross.

Guinea worms. I've seen a show on parasites that showed these things and how they are extracted. Yuck!!!

Heel n Toe 06-20-2010 09:30 PM

Jeff, there is one type of bug thing that spreads: scabies ...pronounced :skay-beez: ...they burrow under your skin. They're a type of mites.

A guy I used to work with a long time ago got an infestation of them on his arms. I forget what the remedy was, but you can get rid of them.

From Wiki: Scabies, also known as sarcoptic mange and colloquially known as the itch, is a contagious ectoparasitic skin infection characterized by superficial burrows and intense pruritus (itching). It is caused by the mite Sarcoptes scabiei. The word scabies itself is derived from the Latin word (scabere) for "scratch". More severe forms of scabies include crusted scabies and Norwegian scabies.

More (with photos... some are very scary) here:
Scabies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

RWebb 06-20-2010 10:20 PM

interesting - even as a biologist for many years my boyhood cultural Southernisms were never corrected...

fintstone 06-20-2010 10:45 PM

One of my kids had scabies and it was pretty bad. Made me itch just to look at him. Picked them up travelling on a Greyhound bus...back when people still did that. Had to wash everything in house with very hot water. Doctor directed the use of a very strong topical lye-basd lice treatment (called RID) that was so strong it burned his skin a bit for a while....but it finally got rid of them. I understand that they have better medicines for this now.
If you have them, you must treat them as soon as possible or they will be on everything and everyone in your house. http://www.medicinenet.com/scabies_pictures_slides

look 171 06-20-2010 10:58 PM

I don't think its scabies. It has to be posion oak. They blister up and now a couple of them popped and the damn juice is running down my leg a tiny little bit. I can't wait to see my doc. F these over the counter meds. I am going to wait at my doctor's office before he gets there. The itch seem to be getting better, but my face and eye lids are swollen. That happen to any of you guys? But, nothing like that is happening to my wife. Thankfully we got rid of our little boys and are playing at grandparents.

For those of you that went to the doctor to treat posion ivy or oak, how long did it take to heal to the point of function normally again withour scratching balls all day long?

look 171 06-20-2010 10:59 PM

:(Fuch mike, why didn't you tell me this earlier

look 171 06-20-2010 11:03 PM

Oh, BTW, thanks for the hot water tip. It works wonders. The feeling is much much better then sex. Who was the one that said it was like 20 minutes of scratching? I think more like an hour it felt so good.

Jeff

Garp 06-20-2010 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 5414871)
Oh, BTW, thanks for the hot water tip. It works wonders. The feeling is much much better then sex. Who was the one that said it was like 20 minutes of scratching? I think more like an hour it felt so good.

Jeff

I think you need to get laid in a hot tub. :)
Good luck.


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