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Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 5511656)

d & h are and are generally considered performing artists, eh?

Yes. But to me, there is a difference between a performing artist & an artist. Rembrandt didn't perform but he was an artist. A bass player in a bar band is a performing artist but is he an artist à la Rembrandt? Beethoven was both, of course so the line is fuzzy & personal. ;)

Ian

I don't really know, it's just a part of my soul. I cannot imagine life without it.

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Originally Posted by imcarthur (Post 5511800)

I think you are trying to split hairs where they don't need to be split. It's all art, and the ACT of painting is the performance.

Without music life would B-flat....... Sorry!

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Originally Posted by wcc (Post 5512021)

Without music life would B-flat....... Sorry!

A sharp note: Z-man beat...U2 that...badda bing, badda boom.

[QUOTE=Z-man;5509251]Without music, life would B flat.

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Originally Posted by The Gaijin (Post 5510911)

I feel bad for those would have been musicians in this modern world.

They sit around playing nothing - as their customer base is listening to iPods, watching MTV and surrounded by music in their cars, offices and everyplace else.

A hundred years ago these people had a natural audience, and now they don't.:(

The same could be said for performance artists..

Im not sure I agree with this. 100+ years ago there was no recorded music, the only way for music to be transmitted was in written form, and could only be heard when played by someone. Which is why it took so long for people to figure out Paginini. Only one generation heard him play, the next couldnt figure out the technique required to play his compositons.

Recorded music is ubiquitous now as you say, but the audience for it is bigger, more people can play music without having to learn all that dreary theory.

People still respond viscerally to the interaction between a musician and the instrument, there is a bigger audience for live music now than ever before. IMHO.

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Originally Posted by LubeMaster77 (Post 5435805)

I love art and music but why do we have it? Is there a purpose? A function? Is it the manifestation of our soul? Is it God speaking to us? Aside from the commercial aspects, Humans seem to be the only animals that really pursue art and music for the fancy of it.

It makes us feel.

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Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 5511506)

Not a finger painter. :)

Yes, yes and yes.

Now 'splain pleeze to Taz's master? :)

DARSIC, now do you understand why I said you have denied that what I consider to be performance art to be art? Since you are judging, what standard are you using? An objective definition of true art, or your own arbitrary standard?

And just to be clear, while you can measure the effectiveness of a batter, can you measure the beauty of Ted William's or Ken Griffey Jr's swings?

When the subject of a work of art is a performing athelete, can the subject convey the same messages or emotions that the artist is attempting to capture?

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Originally Posted by Taz's Master (Post 5512137)

DARSIC, now do you understand why I said you have denied that what I consider to be performance art to be art?

Uhh...nooo... "Now"? After what?

Since you are judging, what standard are you using?

I'm judging? How do you arrive at that conclusion?

An objective definition of true art, or your own arbitrary standard?

"True art"? What's that (in your mind - which you've not clarified after several requests that you do so, so that a discussion about "What is art" can ensue).

And just to be clear, while you can measure the effectiveness of a batter, can you measure the beauty of Ted William's or Ken Griffey Jr's swings?

You tell me. Define the scale of batter beauty that you're applying to make the measurement.

When the subject of a work of art is a performing athelete,

When is that?

can the subject convey the same messages or emotions that the artist is attempting to capture?

I give up. I can only conclude that you can't/won't differentiate between sports and the arts. And I'm really not interested in your stubbornness/inability to make that distinction (you didn't even bother to take the mini I.Q. test that I posted to try to get you to see the light). Buh bye SmileWavy

I give up.

I accept your surrender.

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Originally Posted by Taz's Master (Post 5512224)

I give up.

I accept your surrender.

Like, you have a choice? :)

By the way, it's "resignation" not surrender. What am I surrendering?

What am I surrendering?

Art critics are so easliy confused, athletics can help focus your mind.