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onewhippedpuppy 07-25-2010 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 5471712)
The V8 Iam talking is a diesel. I think it come out of a Humvee. the Isuzu motor I am thinking about is their commerical delivery trucks. their flat bed trucks or stake bed truck.

I know all about loudness of the Cummins. I have one. If you park that thing in an under ground parking lot in front and next to a wall, it will blow your ear drums. Why do you think its rougher and not good around town. I can't feel the difference that and my LC beside the actual size of the truck. I can't get into most parking spaces around here.

Not sure about the V8, I know the Hummer H1 had a Duramax diesel towards the end of its run. I've read talk about the Izuzu, but don't know if it has been tried. I was thinking of the more industrial Cummins motors, like the 4BT. My father in law has a 2009 Ram 3500 with the Cummins, it's a sweet motor and would be awesome (but expensive to swap) in a Land Cruiser.

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5471752)
The only time i ever hear anyone mention diesels, or wanting diesels, is on this forum.

You don't see the merit of a 4Runner that is significantly more powerful and gets nearly double the MPG? Same story with a Land Cruiser?

JeremyD 07-25-2010 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 5471815)
I think that NFN has either a Toyota diesel or MB diesel in his 4runner. A VW TDI mill would not be suited to the weight and torque requirements of a 4wd 4runner.

There is a 6 cylinder TDI - 225 and 265HP both have over 400 ft lbs of torque

notfarnow 07-25-2010 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 5471815)
I think that NFN has either a Toyota diesel or MB diesel in his 4runner. A VW TDI mill would not be suited to the weight and torque requirements of a 4wd 4runner.

Jeeze, in retrospect I think a VW TDI, or even older iDi, would have been a better choice than the old ~85 hp 2.4 NA engine I used. I was attracted to the simplicity of the weekend bolt-in swap, but it is S L O W. An older VW 1.9 AAZ idi would have been great, they run 90ish HP and much easier to find parts for

WIL84911 07-26-2010 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 5471969)
I would disagree with the general principle of that statement. In the (unlikely?) event of a failure, yes, but in general, no.

In that case I may want to consider diesel in the future. Thanks.

VincentVega 07-26-2010 04:38 AM

Excellent project, nice work.

I'm another fan, I'd be all over a diesel 4 Runner or Land Cruiser.

notfarnow 07-26-2010 07:54 AM

FYI: there's a guy in Ontario selling adapter plates to mount VW TDi engines in the 3.0V6 4runners. You'd still have to fab up engine mounts, cooling & exhaust, but still worth considering if anyone has toyotie or 4runner dieselswapitis

1990C4S 07-26-2010 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WIL84911 (Post 5472843)
In that case I may want to consider diesel in the future. Thanks.

Don't want to sidetrack here. A new thread 'Should I buy a diesel?' might be interesting....

cnielsen 08-28-2010 07:35 PM

I've put about 3000 miles on the motor since the swap and everything is running fantastic! I really need to stop driving it so much but it is just soooo much fun to drive ;)

The interior trim is completed. The 4WD shifter was able to be rotated 180 degrees so it angled in the correct position.

Air conditioning is blowing ice cold. I found that the compressor was not getting power when the switch was activated... Simple wiring fix.

Mileage... I've been tracking it at most fuel stops. When I drive around town, I get the best mileage at around 24. When driving around town it is very easy to keep the RPM's below 2K which helps to improve mileage. Highway driving yields 21-22 MPG mostle because I'm cruising at 65-70 MPH and at 2500 RPM.

Gearing... Different gearing could bring the revs down and improve highway mileage but I would not want a taller first gear. I had one experience where I was pulling a heavy trailer and had to stop on a hill. I managed to get going alright but I almost wanted a granny gear! Taller gears would not have been a good idea...

Keep in mind I am running 285/17 BFG Mud Terrain tires so I am sure they absorb a couple MPG's and affect the gearing.

I also had one experience going up a tall and long mountain pass where the engine temps started rising. It was just circumstantial...summer temps, thin air, constant turbo boost. It was just a recipe for a hot engine. When I reached the summit, I put it in neutral and brought up the revs and it cooled down amazingly fast! I would like to get an EGT gauge as well as an intercooler. I dont think it would have been possible to pull a trailer in those conditions so an intercooler is a must. More projects for another day

This being said, I LOVE this truck and would not change a thing!!!!!

kojo911 02-09-2013 07:41 AM

Toyota Pricing

$$$$$$$$$$$$$

cnielsen 02-09-2013 09:24 AM

Yes, those guys are VERY proud of their work. I did everything myself so I saved a ton of money and ultimately got exactly the truck I wanted in the end. I'm probably in the whole truck, including initial purchase price, between $15-20K. Keep in mind this includes; ARB lockers, winch, ARB bumper, tires, wheels, 70's Recaro seats etc... For me, it's worth every penny. It is one of those vehicles that you just don't get tired of driving...like our early 911's ;)

BTW, I just turned 225,000 miles and have had zero issues. Looking forward to hitting 500K some day :)

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps26602571.jpg

Seahawk 02-09-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cnielsen (Post 7262852)
Yes, those guys are VERY proud of their work. I did everything myself so I saved a ton of money and ultimately got exactly the truck I wanted in the end.

I may want to do this in a few years to a 1979 FJ...any other retailers of the engine package you recommend?

I can do the swap myself.

Thanks.

vash 02-09-2013 09:54 AM

Cn. Can I link this to my Toyota forum!

vash 02-09-2013 09:55 AM

If I ever blow up my Tacoma motor. I am kidnapping cnieslson. :)

cnielsen 02-09-2013 02:19 PM

Sure Vash, go ahead.


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