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Any pro, or anyone familiar with paint sprayer FOR HOUSE, not for car.

I have a chance to spray the interior so I thought about renting the machine from Home Depot. But then I don't think I can organize everything to use the unit real quick before I return it. If I have to keep the unit for several days, why not buy a used one for same amount of renting cost? I thought.
Looking into Craigslist, I am confused of which I should get. Anyone know about these good enough to give me suggestions? I can have access to an air compressor.

Someone told me to get one that come with a hose which you can stick it in the paint bucket and spray, instead of pouring paint into it's canister a little at a time. Are these the one?

Some samples:
▒▒▒ Wagner HVLP Control Spray Plus paint sprayer
Cambell Hausefeld Commercial Paint Sprayer and EM480 Paint Sprayer
Milwaukee Paint Sprayer
commertial paint sprayer
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:49 AM
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I have an old CH that still works well...not commercial grade but robust enough for five gallon cans of paint and stain.

I have used to stain fences, paint barns, etc. If you plan on using it indoors, wear a really good mask with removable canisters.

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No clue but that second one, $275 that retails for $2,500? With any luck it's only hot. Could be one of those bait em with a good cash deal and you get mugged when you show up to buy it.

If it sounds..........
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Is the house empty and you're able to mask/plastic off what you don't want paint on? If not, I'd think about cutting in and using a really wide roller. You can cover a lot ground quickly with one.

Spayers can get nasty and you'll still have to mask, tape, etc. unless your going fir the monochrome look. Backrolling right after spraying makes for a better look IMHO.

Or what about one of those 10" (?) rollers that has the paint supplied to it. Never used one, but maybe someone has?

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Or what about one of those 10" (?) rollers that has the paint supplied to it. Never used one, but maybe someone has?

Good luck!
They are a disaster. When you "shut off" the paint at the end of the wall, paint keeps seeping for quite a while, making a huge mess. Turning off the paint supply before the end of a wall is a guessing game that seldom works out- Either you run out of paint too soon (and it takes a while to resume, then keeps dribbling after your done), or too late, with paint dripping all over.

A standard 9" roller on an extension pole, and a roller screen that slips into a 5-gallon bucket is a faster way to paint walls than a power roller.

I would definately use a commercial-quality sprayer. Do all prep work, all masking work, and go rent one from a local paint store- Not Home Defect, but a paint store- Where pro painters buy their supplies. Suck paint directly from 5-gallon buckets, and an entire house can easilly be sprayed in a few hours.

Using a "homeowner quality" airless sprayer is nothing but a frustrating experience. Many need to have the paint thinned to spray properly, many have to be continually refilled. You may end up needing an extra coat to cover properly. No thanks.
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I repainted the inside of a house with a sprayer and it will be the last time I do it. As posted above, if the house is not empty, you need to cover EVERYTHING! Even if empty you still need to tape off around the ceiling and completely cover the floor. Spraying may work for a house that has just been sheetrocked and only has the sub floor down, but not much else. I can paint roll a room much faster.
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if you are buying, buy a good used pro unit on CL or someplace

if renting, I would rent from a paint store long before I went to HD
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Rolling went over my mind but how can I roll or brush the ceiling with pop-corns? I need to spray the ceiling anyway, why not spray some major walls? Look like I can't stay away from a sprayer.
For renting... I am thinking that I need a day (6 hours for it to dry) of ceiling, a day for primer, another day for color coats. 3 days rental cost about the same as a used unit. Why not buy a used unit for around similar cost and keep it for later use. Tell me if I missed anything.
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long nap roller and elbow grease for popcorn

buy why not go whole hog and get rid of that damn stuff?
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Some painters came to give estimate and actually tried to take some of it off just to see. One recommended not to because the pop-corn type is too hard to take off. It is not normal type. Also, the PO painted it before. One is willing to "try" but I don't like the expression on his face. The expression of unsure "umm... yeahhh, we can try".
On my side, I don't like the work of smoothing it after taking it off, so I decide to spray it myself since I have to repair the walls anyway.
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It is much faster to spray popcorn than roll, and it will take about 1/3 the paint to cover. I've rolled popcorn with 1-1/4" rollers plenty of times, but won't ever again.
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They are a disaster. When you "shut off" the paint at the end of the wall, paint keeps seeping for quite a while, making a huge mess. Turning off the paint supply before the end of a wall is a guessing game that seldom works out- Either you run out of paint too soon (and it takes a while to resume, then keeps dribbling after your done), or too late, with paint dripping all over.

A standard 9" roller on an extension pole, and a roller screen that slips into a 5-gallon bucket is a faster way to paint walls than a power roller.

I would definately use a commercial-quality sprayer. Do all prep work, all masking work, and go rent one from a local paint store- Not Home Defect, but a paint store- Where pro painters buy their supplies. Suck paint directly from 5-gallon buckets, and an entire house can easilly be sprayed in a few hours.

Using a "homeowner quality" airless sprayer is nothing but a frustrating experience. Many need to have the paint thinned to spray properly, many have to be continually refilled. You may end up needing an extra coat to cover properly. No thanks.
I disagree - I have an older (10 year) Wagner power roller and will be using it again tomorrow -- the trick is to not leave the flow constantly in the 'on' position. Turn it on to get the roller to the right paint saturation point. Then turn it off, and roll the paint onto the wall. When running out of paint, turn on the flow again, wait, turn off and roll away. Lather, rise, repeat.

While it may not be as fast as just leaving the flow in the on position - it is still faster than stopping to fill up the roller with paint by bending down and rolling it in a paint pan. The trick is to get into a good rythmn and not get too much paint into the roller. But you are will tired quicker since you will be doing the same motion again and again.

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my pt. is you could roll it - not that it will be anywhere near as fast as spraying

OTOH, is it just one room? it takes time to set up for a spray (as one person noted above)
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my dad painted the whole outside of the two story house they used to have with a Wagner before they came out with the syphon thing. have no idea how many times he had to climb up and down to reload the little tank it came with. we never tried it indoors.

for indoors i have heard good things about their roller version. but the syphon for a 5gal bucket is the way to go.
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HD rents fine sprayers. I have used them when necessary and have no complaints. Their rigs are on the lower side of the gallons per minute scale but will suit you just fine if you decide to go that route.

The idea of going through the trouble to purchase a used unit that you have no idea of its internal condition is not a great idea. The unit can easily cost more to repair than the original purchase price. The cost of a new gun, hose, tip, housing, packings, etc. can reach hundreds of dollars.

Rent a known working unit with all the accessories including a tip and in the end you will most likely come out ahead. Do you really want to warehouse a paint sprayer for the next unknown number of years? A sprayer you will never use?

If the house is mostly empty and in the process of a remodel, spray away.

If you live there, brush and roll.
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I got a Graco and it's been an ok investment. So far I've only shot latex paint through it. It clogs the least with primer. In the end it's made painting faster and used less paint than I would've used otherwise. I have to spray in a side to side pattern first, then go back over it up and down. Very little mess, but it's a pretty small sprayer.
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If the popcorn hadn't been painted, I would have said wet it down with a garden sprayer filled with water, let it soak and scrape off with a 10" drywall knife. Makes easy work of it. Of course the popcorn hides the defects in the ceiling drywall and you'll have to skim it with mud, sand and then paint it.

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HD rents fine sprayers. I have used them when necessary and have no complaints. Their rigs are on the lower side of the gallons per minute scale but will suit you just fine if you decide to go that route.

The idea of going through the trouble to purchase a used unit that you have no idea of its internal condition is not a great idea. The unit can easily cost more to repair than the original purchase price. The cost of a new gun, hose, tip, housing, packings, etc. can reach hundreds of dollars.

Rent a known working unit with all the accessories including a tip and in the end you will most likely come out ahead. Do you really want to warehouse a paint sprayer for the next unknown number of years? A sprayer you will never use?

If the house is mostly empty and in the process of a remodel, spray away.

If you live there, brush and roll.
Yup. A buddy of mine is a professional painter, even a good airless sprayer can wear out internally. Also, the tips are very pricey. For a few days use renting is much better. Having used both professional airless sprayers and the household Wagners, there is absolutely no comparison. I'd rather roll than use a Wagner.

Be careful with the popcorn, I've seen it come off when painting. For popcorn I would absolutely spray instead of rolling, there's much less chance of knocking off the texture.
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alright, I think I got the point now. Sometimes when you are too deep into it, you can't think straight. I will probably use the sprayer machine twice max, and have to stock it for years.
Thanks guys.
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I have a Graco like this one:
Shop Graco LTS 15 Paint Sprayer at Lowes.com

I bought it after considering renting one from Home Depot for $90 a day.
I used it to paint the cathedral ceiling and walls of my 33X55 great room and the outside of the house. The sprayer gets the paint to the wall, but you still do a bit of rolling to smooth things out. Think sprayer in one hand and roller in the other. If you are painting one or two rooms it is WAY more of a hassle than it's worth. Set up and clean up are 1/2 an hour each, plus you have to mask or cover EVERYTHING in the room. It's just not worth it.

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