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futuresoptions 08-02-2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by milt (Post 5485408)
And the uprights are already bending.



Just about to say that... I like the look and think it would be a great design for the yard to put a park bench under, but where I live, I would be replacing it in FEB/MAR and then again in Jul/AUG....

MT930 08-02-2010 12:54 PM

Interesting look, I like it. Probably works in GA just fine. It would guess it would fail low on the uprights.

Would never work here unless it was made from steel. It would end up downwind after the first 60 MPH gust

daepp 08-02-2010 12:59 PM

I wonder if there's some hidden structural hardware.

RPKESQ 08-02-2010 07:59 PM

[QUOTE=island911;5485342]still making it up as you go, eh? :rolleyes:

[QUOTE]

No, I don't make things up. I will admit my experience with cantilever construction is with aircraft. And in aircraft construction a cantilever is a beam supported on one end only.

But I remember your expertise with aircraft.:rolleyes:

tcar 08-02-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DAEpperson (Post 5486010)
I wonder if there's some hidden structural hardware.

Bet on it.

There are probably some steel gussets sandwiched between the wood members at the joints; the bolts will go through them.

URY914 08-03-2010 03:29 PM

In Florida we call that an insurance claim.

coolngroovy 08-03-2010 03:38 PM

What would i call it?......... just over 1/2 finished!

TimT 08-03-2010 04:09 PM

I simple terms, that is a cantilevered structure..

actually it looks almost statically indeterminate.. but it is not.. the roof is cantilevered from the post... the portion of the roof on the right side is seeing bending stresses also

maybe for schiess and giggles I'll do shear, load, and moment diagrams for the structure..

that is for the cantilevered structure :p

TimT 08-03-2010 04:40 PM

Any of these five conditions can occur singly or in combination

Analysis of the support is pretty easy also.... a braced column



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1280882444.jpg

island911 08-03-2010 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPKESQ (Post 5486650)
Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 5485342)
still making it up as you go, eh? :rolleyes:

No, I don't make things up. I will admit my experience with cantilever construction is with aircraft. And in aircraft construction a cantilever is a beam supported on one end only.

But I remember your expertise with aircraft.:rolleyes:

Are you trying to say that you are an aircraft structural engineer? :cool:

RPKESQ 08-03-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 5488154)
Are you trying to say that you are an aircraft structural engineer? :cool:

No I'm not. I'm saying that I have a fair amount of experience in building and restoring aircraft, have been a member of the EAA for 39 years and have work on display in their museum. SmileWavy

island911 08-03-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RPKESQ (Post 5488227)
No I'm not. I'm saying that I have a fair amount of experience in building and restoring aircraft, have been a member of the EAA for 39 years and have work on display in their museum. SmileWavy

Well, alright.

For the record, I'm saying; you shouldn't be correcting people about that which don't fully understand.

. . but, of course, I know; old dog, and new tricks...

Jim Richards 08-04-2010 02:08 AM

Maybe he's a packaging engineer. ;)

RPKESQ 08-04-2010 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 5488590)
Well, alright.

For the record, I'm saying; you shouldn't be correcting people about that which don't fully understand.

. . but, of course, I know; old dog, and new tricks...

Oh, just like you did in the solar powered aircraft thread. Right.

Just for the record.

Good for the goose, good for the gander..................

vash 08-04-2010 06:55 AM

TIMt..that gave me shivers!! those eng diagrams.

i like the structure. i think it looks cool. maybe there isnt much uplift from wind?.i dunno. but those poor columns..i think the upper third is already bending a tiny bit.

kanadary 08-04-2010 10:16 AM

looks cool. one less pole to potentially hit when backing out i suppose. i don't know if i would trust it in a wind or snow belt area.

sammyg2 08-04-2010 11:06 AM

I was gonna say that design wouldn't fly in Wyoming, then I realized yes, it would ;)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1280948759.jpg

RWebb 08-04-2010 12:00 PM

Ha! I haven't seen that joke since my Biophysics Prof. used it on us in class.

When I lived in Wyo. one winter, the wind really did derail a freight train - near Tie Siding, ironically.

911pcar 08-04-2010 03:01 PM

My intuition says the wood frame is going to be an issue once the newness wears off. However, for all we know it could be a substantial metal structure clad in wood to generate controversy among the civilians. Boo ya.

Or it could be engineered like that suspension bridge in Tacoma, WA.
YouTube - Tacoma Bridge

Sherwood


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