Identify these motorcycles please?

Mo_Gearhead · 08-05-2010, 05:36 AM

Going to an estate sale tomorrow and I don't know about bikes. The auction flyer gives no details on these. Can anyone tell me what brand motorcycles/year these are and any possible value?

And what year is this VW?

Thanks.

* well that second photo failed. I'll retry.

Mo_Gearhead · 08-05-2010, 05:41 AM

widebody911 · widebody911's Garage

Judging by the wheels, '66 or '67. The picture isn't clear enough to make out finer details. Does it have sloped headlights (pre-67) or flat ('67)?

hardflex · 08-05-2010, 05:58 AM

The 2nd bike looks like a Yamaha, possibly early 70's 2 stroke.

1st bike, I'll guess Husquevarna or Bultaco.

cornernfool · cornernfool's Garage

First bike I believe to be Montessa or Bultaco, but truly only a guess.

The second one I want to say is Kawasaki, reason being is it has a rotary valve engine. Notice the induction is under the sidecover. Kawasaki was big on that, but there were a few yamaha's and suzukis had it too.

I think the bug is a 66 but hard to tell from pictures. Headlites on a 66 will layback, 67 straight up and down. Deck lid on a 66 will be round on the botton and have a 1300 script, 67 will be squared off on the bottom. 66 should have square pushbottons on the exterior door handles, and I beleive 67 had round pushbuttons.

Hope that helps, Mike.

BeyGon · 08-05-2010, 07:12 AM

The first bike looks like a Pirelli and the second looks like a Suzuki, I wouldn't pay much for either one. The VW looks like it need A LOT.

rfuerst911sc · 08-05-2010, 07:44 AM

That's quite a gravity feed fuel system on the VW

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ODDJOB UNO · ODDJOB UNO's Garage

1st bike aint a husky. left side bulbous case appears bultaco. 2nd bike havent a clue except jap of some sort.

1st bike if a taco will have VIN # starting with something like VB156. the 3 digit is the model. call hughs bultaco or buds bultaco fro comfirmation.

nota · 10:04 AM

first one may be a bultaco mid 60's 200 or 250cc

the second bike is a bridgestone [the jap tyre corp]
late 60's 175cc twin with rotary valves I had one in 68

http://motorbike-search-engine.co.uk/classic_bikes/bridgestone-classic-motorcycles.php

JavaBrewer · JavaBrewer's Garage

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeyGon

The first bike looks like a Pirelli and the second looks like a Suzuki, I wouldn't pay much for either one. The VW looks like it need A LOT.

You'd be surprised what a rusted out old bug can be worth.

BeyGon · 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ODDJOB UNO

1st bike aint a husky. left side bulbous case appears bultaco. 2nd bike havent a clue except jap of some sort.

1st bike if a taco will have VIN # starting with something like VB156. the 3 digit is the model. call hughs bultaco or buds bultaco fro comfirmation.

I still think the first one looks Italian but we will see, I don't remember the early Bultacos looking that heavy, even as a street bike.
The second one might be a Bridgstone. I was thinking Suzuki but it looks a little different. We will see.

Plus, if it's Bultaco it should have the name cast in the cases. The plug comes out the side of the head, that doesn't look Bultaco.

Steve Carlton · 08-05-2010, 11:58 AM

First one looks like a Dontbother 175. Second one is a Stayaway 250.

unclebilly · unclebilly's Garage

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

First one looks like a Dontbother 175. Second one is a Stayaway 250.

Yup, and the VEE DUB is a 1967 Runlikehell Super

ama · 01:08 PM

The second one is a Bridgestone 90, probably 1968 or 1969, could be a 175, but the bikes are very symmetrical and I can't see the other side in this photo ..........great little bikes, but parts are more rare than most other Japanese bikes to fine. However, that said, it will be worth more when done. There are a couple of Bridgestone guys out there who can help.

Groesbeck Hurricane · 08-05-2010, 01:31 PM

I see two bikes in the first photo and one bike in the second/reposted photo.

I agree they seem a bit of a stayaway to me as well. Wonder if the Bug is a good donor vehicle????

Yep, love the fuel delivery vessel but it is mounted on the wrong end! And we need flames painted going from the back bumper over the hood to the rear window and door panels!

BeyGon · 08-05-2010, 01:46 PM

I think I meant Parilla for the Italian bike but?

nota · 08-05-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ama

The second one is a Bridgestone 90, probably 1968 or 1969, could be a 175, but the bikes are very symmetrical and I can't see the other side in this photo ..........great little bikes, but parts are more rare than most other Japanese bikes to fine. However, that said, it will be worth more when done. There are a couple of Bridgestone guys out there who can help.

drum brakes are smaller on the 90
as is the tank
it is a 175 maybe the later 200cc

tcar · 08:59 PM

The VW is a 67. Only year for those wheels.

67's have a number of one-year-only stuff. Rear decklid, wheels and brakes for instance.

Hard-Deck · 08-06-2010, 01:29 PM

any chance that first motorcycle is a mid-60s Moto Beta?

Mo_Gearhead · 08-06-2010, 01:37 PM

Bike #1 - I asked everyone that was examining that thing what it was - no one knew - not even the guy that purchased it.

Bike #2 - Bridgestone is correct.
Both bikes just good for parts. I passed.

He had two similar VW's for parts (no titles). He had plans for a dune buggy apparently - which I purchased, (un-welded kit) to 'flip' at the next swap meet.

I also got two, 'old-school' American Mag. wheels, and a book - Colliers (1946) Photographic History of WW II.