ticket for passing on double yellow, not speeding

[nynor]

i think he thought i was 20 something.... i don't look my age. it was rather comical. my friend that was there and saw that particular exchange commented on it.

[nynor]

i just talked to this officer's lieutenant. again, it didn't seem like i was being taken seriously until he asked me my age. no one over 25 rides a sport bike, right? anyway, when i explained that if i screamed at people, called them "you people" and behaved confrontationally, at work, as this officer did, at my job, i'd expect to be fired, the lieutenant then started to take some real interest. or maybe not. who knows. the complaint will end up in his file, at the very least, and if this behavior is the norm for him, he'll get some more, and things will continue their natural course for him.

i've been pulled over a few times, ticketed a few less times than i've been pulled over, and i have NEVER been treated like i was at this stop by another officer.

i'll go ahead and plea in abeyance, pay the fine, and continue on my merry way.

[nynor]

on a lighter note, if i had done THIS, i'd expect some screaming, possibly some violence against my person:

ksl.com - Parolee arrested through window after ramming police cars

[berettafan]

So on top of being selfish when it comes to traffic laws and double yellow lines you are also willing to mess with a guy's living because you don't like how he talked to you.

Nynor my gripe with you isn't so much that you crossed the double yellow, but rather your attitude that you know what's best for everyone and as such should be yielded to by the authorities.

Whatever happened to walking away from an unpleasant experience mumbling 'man that guy is a dick' and just moving on with your life? Why must there be retribution?

[stomachmonkey]

A classic. Time to bring it out.

2:20 is the best part.

[deanp]

Whatever happened to walking away from an unpleasant experience mumbling 'man that guy is a dick' and just moving on with your life? Why must there be retribution?

So breaking a traffic law is an acceptable reason for the officer to throw professional behavior out the window? Maybe I am reading too much into it, but, we may never have seen this post if all three riders in the same group received the same citation (only the two sport bike riders were ticketed) for something all three did (executed the pass) and the officer acted in a professional manner.

Nynor - out of curiosity, any intersecting roads, driveways, etc on this stretch of road?

[nynor]

Originally Posted by deanp

So breaking a traffic law is an acceptable reason for the officer to throw professional behavior out the window? Maybe I am reading too much into it, but if the three riders in the same group received the same citation for something they all did and the officer acted in the professional manner expected we may never have seen this post.

Nynor - out of curiosity, any intersecting roads, driveways, etc on this stretch of road?

thanks for this reply and you answered the poster's question perfectly. allow me to add the following: if i were to behave like this, i would EXPECT to be fired from my employment. get it, berretta? this isn't messing with his livelihood, HE was messing with his livelihood by behaving in a belligerent, threatening manner, while being a PUBLIC SERVANT. yeah, he was a dick, and he created a very UNSAFE situation for everyone involved by doing so. and keep the jackass for yourself.

nope, no roads, driveways, etc. it was on the downside of a rise in the road. i could literally see the road for at least 3/4's of a mile.

[berettafan]

acceptable reason? No.

but again i say what ever happened to walking away muttering about it and moving on with your life. did he suffer from this? no. is he a big boy who can get over it? yup.

[deanp]

Little side story - about three weeks ago I was on my way home, divided highway, three lanes per side. I'm in the middle lane, there's a Maxima maybe eight-ten car lengths in front of me, and a older clapped out Corolla or something similar in the right lane. The Maxima starts drifting into the right lane without a directional, leaving the Corolla no place to go. He overcompensates and goes right to avoid the collision and ends up way over in the breakdown lane almost clipping the guardrail at the shoulder. he collects it and gets back out into the right lane, missing a state cop running radar in the breakdown lane by five or six car lengths.

State cop pulls out and I'm hoping he is going after the maxima, but instead he lights up the Corolla. Corolla stops and the officer gets out, and is screaming at the driver through the passenger side window. (I had witnessed the whole event, so I pulled in behind the police car.) Officer starts back to his car, sees me and I signal him to come over, at which point I explain what had happened. He asked if I thought the Corolla could have done anything differently, to which I replied no - he did what he had to to avoid the accident.

Turns out the officer looked up in his rear view mirror and thought he was going to be wiped out, all he saw was the Corolla coming at him - adrenalin was flowing and he was P*SSED! This was on the heels of three recent incidents, at least one of them a fatality, with officers getting hit at night. He thanked me for stopping, went back to the Corolla without getting into his car to run the plates etc. I believe I saved the driver from a HUGE headache.

[deanp]

sorry, if someone under my supervision acts in an unprofessional manner while on the job, I'd want to know.

[nynor]

Originally Posted by berettafan

acceptable reason? No.

but again i say what ever happened to walking away muttering about it and moving on with your life. did he suffer from this? no. is he a big boy who can get over it? yup.

he sure is. he'll move on.

and after making a justified complaint with his employer (wait, that's me...), i've moved on as well.

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

Driving to the coast and back recently on a twisty road I liked, I noticed that many of my old passing straights were now double yellow lines. ...

I discussed this with a friend via email...he explained this change happened nationwide some time ago...new federal edict. ...

hey paul - ODOT verifies this. at least in some respects:


According to our files, there have been several locations on Alsea
Highway (OR34) where I have authorized changes to the centerline in
specific locations. These areas were brought to my attention by our
Construction staff when paving projects were being completed in these
areas. Here is a list of those changes:

MP 6.94-7.09, Canal Creek Road to the eastern end of the Alsea River
Bridge: west bound was changed to no passing in 2005 due to the narrow width of the bridge and the near vicinity of the road connection, heavy vegetation, and heavy congestion in the summer months.

MP 54.05: Short 400' passing allowed segment in west bound direction was changed to no pass - close to length limit with a curve on one end.

MP 57.98: Short 280' passing allowed segment in east bound direction
changed to no pass - too short for minimum requirements.

MP 58.18: Short 420' passing allowed segment in east bound direction
changed to no pass - close to minimum length limit, nearby road
intersection.

Other than those discrete locations, there have been no changes to the
centerline striping in the last decade (other than slight (a couple of
feet) shifts that may have occurred over many years of restriping the
existing markings).

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ODOT uses the federal highway administration publication "Manual
on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD)" to guide us in how we mark
centerline striping for passing allowed or no passing, as well as
additional state standards. The MUTCD requires that at any point on the
roadway where passing is allowed, a driver in a vehicle can see for a
certain distance (sight distance): 1000' at speeds of 60mph. We also
require that a section striped as passing allowed be at least 400' long.
There are other reasons for marking no passing, too, such as approaching
a left turn lane or a railroad crossing, or sometimes just a busy
intersection. When highways are first striped or the "rules" change,
technical staff reviews sight distance and length requirements and marks
out the centerline striping. In my position as Region Traffic Engineer,
I am the person who has the authority to change the centerline striping
outside those rules.

[teenerted1]

Originally Posted by berettafan

So on top of being selfish when it comes to traffic laws and double yellow lines you are also willing to mess with a guy's living because you don't like how he talked to you.

Nynor my gripe with you isn't so much that you crossed the double yellow, but rather your attitude that you know what's best for everyone and as such should be yielded to by the authorities.

Whatever happened to walking away from an unpleasant experience mumbling 'man that guy is a dick' and just moving on with your life? Why must there be retribution?

maybe the talking too the officer gets from his superior will save him from gettng shot the next time he pulls this attitude on the next roadside customer he has.