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I'm not interested in real estate but would like to hear of a reasonable alternative to the stock market. Jim |
probably the worst thing to do is to buy a lot of bonds right now
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as noted elsewhere the problem is where are you going to put the money Tips? rising rates? emerging market bonds? gold? diversification, keeping in mind your particular situation, is still the best policy, I've been ok w/ my dividend paying stocks, they certainly have a much better yield than cash, though total return is dismal for the past couple of years. I still can't see selling the bulk of the stock portion in this market, but then I don't need the cash for anything and the dividend stream is being reinvested. Everyone's situation of course will be different |
I agree. Over the past 6 months I've moved most of my liquid assets into a blend of precious metals, tax free municipals and money market.
AFAIK, the market is not the place to be right now. |
Hey I was only half kidding about a 962. What's everyone's guess on the potential increase in value of 'certain' Porsches such as a 962 or a 959 or a 73 RS? Might they not be a good investment alternatives to stock / bond market or real estate? How liquid would they be and how liquid would they 'need' to be (probably as liquid as real estate)
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I'm either lazy or stupid (or both). I have a rainy day savings account, and sock money into a TIAA-CREF retirement account every month that is split between stocks and annuity. And I largely ignore it. I won't touch it for another 20 years at least. In another 5 or 10 years I'll probably change the allocation a bit. Beyond that I don't deal with any other investment stuff. Gives me a headache...
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It may be a local thing but at a recent antique arms and collectables auction people were going nuts spending money. An example being a colt .45 liberator got passed in, no bids, for about USD$560 eight months ago, then three weeks ago one in the same condition sold for USD$980. Huge money was being paid for machine guns, Sten guns (etc) and American Civil war items. Maybe... he says hesitantly, collectables are a good place to dump money.
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so, is it time to buy industrial real estate?
I'm teetering on taking out some of my retirement fund to buy a warehouse for my small company. |
I'm waiting for Dipso to report on how the guys at the hardware store are doing before I make any rash moves.
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But, in the past 6 months I've seen a few NFA items sell for 30-50% below value on gunbroker due to either very short auction times (1 or 3 days), or bad advertising (a FNC para listed as "FN rifle 223" in the bolt gun section, etc). And in general due to poor economy the full auto stuff is a little bit down... |
I've also been acquiring a bit of gold (and silver) when last week I came accross the the perfect gold/gun combination that hopped in my truck and followed me home. Nostatic, I know you invest in other things too :)
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I would expect someone like you to interested to ask an intelligent question, such as which ones? But no. If you did my reply would be nothing from Kalifornia or the other states that are in trouble, and mostly utility related bonds that are not tied to the green scam. See how that works? |
One of the things thats REALLY bothering me in the last 45 days i've been looking at the 5 year reports of our USD vs the worlds $$$
Our mighty Dollar is down 20% vs the Chinise Yuan and many other currancies around the world since the stock market crash. So our DOW at $10,ooo is really a worldly $8,ooo Yes, I do understand that it fluctuates and that we as Americans posture as that we're the world but in reality if we're thinking about our buying power of our $ and let's say that we want a TV made in China and two years ago that it would cost us $400 this year that $400 needs to REALLY be $480 I'm removing $$$ from my retirement to buy realestate that I will owner occupy. Yes, that the $$$$ in comercial realestate's falling...but one prop that I'm looking at is sellng for $540,000 but in 1998 the guy stole it for $208,000 It's really looking just like home values in SoulCal Another that I'm looking at is a BIGGER lot but it has two STEEL building on it. One is 4,800 square feet and the other is 3,800 It would give me some extra cash flow till I need all 8,600 of it or I could run with it as long as I can and raze one and build a BIG block wall building and then raze the other for parking. |
My portfolio is empty. My gun locker is full. Life is good!
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Never heard a real estate agent say that. |
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I can't decide whether to hold long term or dump at $1300.00. And my cash (GICs etc) are stagnant. Ian |
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